ShooterSteve
New member
That's interesting. I wonder why a 35mm lens would have a rear element so far back? My 28 2.8 and 35 f2 worked on all my cameras without a problem. Haven't tried the 35 1.4 though. My 35 f2 is a superb lens BTW.
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glenerrolrd
Workshop Member
I received a note from CartsenW over at FM ..he has converted a 35 1.4 shaved for a D800 . He indicated that the 35 requires a little more shaving but that it works great .
Now to find that 35 1.4 R ? where ?
Ron Pfister
Member
Hi all,
I love my Leica-R lenses on the D800E, and I'm looking for a few more. I would appreciate any feedback on the following:
- Elmarit-R 2.8/19: how difficult is it to shave the rear element to clear the D800E's mirror?
- Elmarit-R 2.8/28: will this lens work on the D800 without modification?
- Summicron-R 2/35: how does this lens compare to the Zeiss Distagon 2/35 ZF.2 at medium apertures (landscape work - I'm mostly interested in corner performance)?
- Which Leica-R standard zoom (i.e. wide to short tele) would you prefer for landscape work (mostly used at medium apertures)?
Edit: I should add that I'm referring to the latest version of each lens with the first three items.
Many TIA for any feedback!
Ron
I love my Leica-R lenses on the D800E, and I'm looking for a few more. I would appreciate any feedback on the following:
- Elmarit-R 2.8/19: how difficult is it to shave the rear element to clear the D800E's mirror?
- Elmarit-R 2.8/28: will this lens work on the D800 without modification?
- Summicron-R 2/35: how does this lens compare to the Zeiss Distagon 2/35 ZF.2 at medium apertures (landscape work - I'm mostly interested in corner performance)?
- Which Leica-R standard zoom (i.e. wide to short tele) would you prefer for landscape work (mostly used at medium apertures)?
Edit: I should add that I'm referring to the latest version of each lens with the first three items.
Many TIA for any feedback!
Ron
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ShooterSteve
New member
Hi Ron,
I have all three of the lenses you are wondering about. See my earlier posts on converting the 19mm 2.8. It took quite a bit of patience and grinding to get it to work. Somewhere I heard about a Leica service company or tech who does the conversions. I would have taken that route had I known about that first as I probably took a year off my life using a file just millimeters from the rear element of a $3000 lens that is out of production!
The 28 2.8 and 35 f2 work perfectly with no mods necessary other than the mount conversion. I have not really critically analyzed the optical performance other than to say the images look fantastic. I used all of them on my Canons for a few years so I'm used to the performance. I don't have a Zeiss to compare them to, although I always wondered how they would compare. I've thought about the Zeiss 15 as the Leica is way too expensive if you can even find one.
I have all three of the lenses you are wondering about. See my earlier posts on converting the 19mm 2.8. It took quite a bit of patience and grinding to get it to work. Somewhere I heard about a Leica service company or tech who does the conversions. I would have taken that route had I known about that first as I probably took a year off my life using a file just millimeters from the rear element of a $3000 lens that is out of production!
The 28 2.8 and 35 f2 work perfectly with no mods necessary other than the mount conversion. I have not really critically analyzed the optical performance other than to say the images look fantastic. I used all of them on my Canons for a few years so I'm used to the performance. I don't have a Zeiss to compare them to, although I always wondered how they would compare. I've thought about the Zeiss 15 as the Leica is way too expensive if you can even find one.
glenerrolrd
Workshop Member
DAG will shave the 19 elmarit . His work is so smooth you may not notice (as compared to doing it yourself ). I had to send him both the lens and the D800E . I have a 35/1.4 thats even harder to shave that he will do next .
The 28 and the 35/2 both work without shaving . The Leitax website is the best resource for conversion of the R glass to a nikon mount . I buy the chipped version of the mounts as it provides a way to calibrate focus confirmation (my body was excellent ..lucky).
The 28 and the 35/2 both work without shaving . The Leitax website is the best resource for conversion of the R glass to a nikon mount . I buy the chipped version of the mounts as it provides a way to calibrate focus confirmation (my body was excellent ..lucky).
Ron Pfister
Member
Thanks for your feedback, Roger and Steve!
@Steve: looking at Sergio's image above, I'd say this is within my comfort zone (i.e. not too close to the lens). You have the ROM-version, right? Does yours look similar with regard to the distance between the rear element and the end of it's surrounding metal ring?
@Roger: you mentioned field curvature of the 2.8/28 earlier in this thread. Is this limited to the corners, or do the edges on the short sides of the frame suffer from it, as well?
@Steve: looking at Sergio's image above, I'd say this is within my comfort zone (i.e. not too close to the lens). You have the ROM-version, right? Does yours look similar with regard to the distance between the rear element and the end of it's surrounding metal ring?
@Roger: you mentioned field curvature of the 2.8/28 earlier in this thread. Is this limited to the corners, or do the edges on the short sides of the frame suffer from it, as well?
glenerrolrd
Workshop Member
Ron
I shoot primarily street and so I rarely look closely at the edges at infinity . For near to mid distances I am finding the edges to be exceptional ..but its a different kind of shooting . For example I am focusing off the screen viewing the edge for sharpness when I need it .
I shoot primarily street and so I rarely look closely at the edges at infinity . For near to mid distances I am finding the edges to be exceptional ..but its a different kind of shooting . For example I am focusing off the screen viewing the edge for sharpness when I need it .
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Okay if I got a Leica 19mm version 2. Is this what I want to order
Description Item price Quantity Amount
Leica-Nikon special bayonet with ten holes
Variants: Full & Half F-stops
€75.00
quantity|
€75.00
Dandelion Chip for Nikon, glued on a Leitax mount
€37.00
quantity|
€37.00
Item total:€112.00
Shipping and handling: €10.00
Total:€122.00 EUR
Description Item price Quantity Amount
Leica-Nikon special bayonet with ten holes
Variants: Full & Half F-stops
€75.00
quantity|
€75.00
Dandelion Chip for Nikon, glued on a Leitax mount
€37.00
quantity|
€37.00
Item total:€112.00
Shipping and handling: €10.00
Total:€122.00 EUR
glenerrolrd
Workshop Member
You have this correct . Be aware that unless you pay the extra 15euro for express shipping it can take a month to get the mount .
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Thanks Roger I thought the shipping was missing. So it's 3 selections
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Thanks. I have done this before when I used canon years ago. I actually shaved the shroud on the 19mm but eventually shaved the mirror on one of my Canons . This stuff is old hat for us Leica/ canon folks. Lol
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Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
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BSEH
New member
(consider the plastic corner for hard stop to - annoying when the apperturering go pass the stops. And i don't know why you order the Dandelion chip for the D800E - unless you don't wanna set the Non CPU in camera).
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Good point but would I still aperture in efix data. I use C1 also and wanted to make sure it reads it. The stop would be nice as I do count clicks as I shoot. This is getting expensive . Lol
Guess I forget and wish I still had these damn lenses. I even had the 35-70 2.8 at 6k. Sick sick person I am
Guess I forget and wish I still had these damn lenses. I even had the 35-70 2.8 at 6k. Sick sick person I am
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Sorry iPhone typing
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
I'm in the process of getting one. I will do a full report when its operational.