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    Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    I am thinking of getting a 50-60mm lens for my D800e. Planning to use it as all around lens and is looking at either

    1. Nikon 50 f1.8G - heard lots of good things about it and cheap
    2. Nikon 60mm f2.8G micro - closeup is a good bonus but at a few stops slower.
    3. Nikon 50 f1.4G - Not too bad and not too expensive
    4. Zeiss 50 f2.0 Makro - really liked the Zeiss color (love my 100mm MP)
    5. Nikon 50 f1.2 AIs - would have been nice if it is chipped.

    AF is not too big an issue, although can be a bonus. Same with micro/macro capability. More concern about IQ.

    Any feedback greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Some G lenses are designed for the smaller DX frame, and will not cover the full 24x36 format of the D800E.

    The D800E will sense DX lenses when used, and will reduce the sensor coverage area to the DX size. You can't change that.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    The "G" lenses designated as FX lenses work fine with full frame fomat. The term "G" refers to an electronic aperture not lens coverage.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    It seems only some of the G lenses are DX; others are not.

    I thought they all were, since all the ones I own are DX. My error.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    I like my 50/1.4 G -- but it isn't what I'd call a perfect lens. And then I like and wanted AF, so it left many other choices out. My copy of the 1.4 has some mojo at the wider apertures and sharpens up pretty nicely across the frame by 5.6.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Jack, have you tried the 50 f1.8G? Many review seems to favor that lens.

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    For the price, You can't go wrong with the 50mm f1.8 G. This was shot with the 50mm f1.8 on the D800E at 800iso and f2.4.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Some experiences that may help:

    The latest 50/1.8 G is a slam-dunk (D800e, D3s). One of the best 50s I've owned across Canon, Leica R, Zeiss and CY. Pulls WELL in excess of it's weight (price wise). I knew it would be a bargain (much like the Canon version), but it's performance really surprised me - so much so, I see no need to replacing it, other than maybe adding a 50/1.2 AiS (very strong rep, oodles of character) for slower paced private (vs client) work.

    The 60G is uber sharp and of course flat field but never took to mine as vignettes VERY heavily wide open (more so than the prior non-G version). Might try again (or get a a copy of the older version) but we'll see.

    Unlike yourself, I never took to Zeiss lenses (50/2, 35/2, 100 MP on Canon) due to the T*-enduced contrast (not normally my taste) and, for me, a lack of CA control (especially on the 100) for the price. The upcoming 135/2 APO, contrast aside, may be another matter and is on my list to try.

    That said, you like the 100 MP, so contrast aside, my 50/2 macro was readily matched or up-staged by my old beat-to-hell (used on an adapter) Leica 60 macro (WTH did I sell that lens...) in terms of resolving power for a fraction of the price, so the 50/2 was sold.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by VINCET View Post
    Jack, have you tried the 50 f1.8G? Many review seems to favor that lens.
    I've seen images from it and speaking for me only, it has no "mojo" to it, just kind of there. Why I prefer the 1.4 -- and to my eyes, the 1.4 is at least equal (if not better) than the 1.8 by f2.8 -- but then maybe I have a really good copy. FWIW, Guy has the 1.8 and doesn't useit very much because it is so vanilla -- I suspect he'll end up with a 1.4 before too long, and he doesn't even care for the 50 focal length!

    Here's a couple of shots I took with the 50/1.4 on our Zion workshop -- none of which are great and I'm a little embarrassed to even share them, but hopefully give some idea of how the lens renders. First is wide open at about 2 feet focus distance on center of dead bush, natural vignette of lens was slightly enhanced in post, but not a lot. I think this shows its bokeh pretty well:



    Second is at f8 at about 100 feet focus distance on rick wall, note that a fairly heavy vignette was added during post -- hard to tell of course from this web jpeg, but this image is quite sharp corner to corner:



    Here's another shot to show how well it handles flare. The Sun is just out of frame on the upper left side and the trees and fall are heavily back-lit. Again, f8 at about 30 foot focus distance between tree and falls, and again some heavy vignette added in post:

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Firstly Jack, I love most everything about that last image you posted , regardless of lens, although I might eventually crop the lower portion of the image. Don't think for myself, it would work in color ). There's a lot that draws me in, personally. Very nice!

    I can't say a lot about the single focal length 50mm lenses in the Nikon mount that hasn't been expresed already. None of them light my fire in terms of exceptional charater. Competent and sharp performers, yes, the way they draw you into an image, not so much. The Sigma 50mm f1.4 does a good job in this respect, at least on a 12MP it did. I (and others) found it more of an artistic use lens than anything else, although was certainly sharp when stopped down. I agree with Jack, the current Nikon 50mm f1.4 G has more character than the 50mm f1.8G but when price/general performance is considered, it's hard to beat the 50mm f1.8 G lens for outright edge to edge sharpness and compactness.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Jack,
    I wish I had taken Those embarrassing pictures.
    Very nice job.
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    The price of the 50 f1.8G is hard to beat especially when in many cases the lens shows better centre to edge sharpness than the f1.4G. You can't really complain about the price of the f1.4G either, but the f1.4G just doesn't have have any magic in my eyes, and I used to wish Nikon would charge more to make a Canon f1.2 equivalent. In the end I bought the manual focus AIS f1.2. My court back in the Nikon days was with the trinity zoom lenses, but wanted a couple of primes for that something special!

    To this day, Nikon still hasn't brought to market an expensive or MAGICAL 50mm lens. In the end I think the choices are really simple, do you want AF or MF? Do you want f1.4 or f1.8? And so on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pophoto View Post
    To this day, Nikon still hasn't brought to market an expensive or MAGICAL 50mm lens. In the end I think the choices are really simple, do you want AF or MF? Do you want f1.4 or f1.8? And so on...
    Magical? What is Magical.

    Lenses with their on personality?
    In this case the Nikkor 50/1.2 Ais and the Noct.

    Did you try them?

    They have some Magical dust in them.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    You have plenty of choices but no real standout 50 that handles everything exists ( a disappointment ). AF is a big deal for most D8ooE users . If you are open to manual focus alternatives ...you have several not mentioned .

    The Zeiss 5o Makro is a superb all around lens similar to the 100 in how it renders . If you like the 100..this is a great choice . Generally I didn t like my 50 Makro because of the macro focusing (too slow) and the very strong macro contrast . This is subjective for sure .

    Three you didn t mention ..all are crazy expensive generally over $3K .

    1. 58/1.2 NOCT Nikkor ... a limited edition Nikkor long out of production. Amazing character ..Nikon s version of a Noctilux . A special purpose lens best wide open at night .

    2. Leica 50 1.4 60mm Summilux . IMHO as good as it gets in a 50 . One of the last R lenses released . Character is Leica . Downsides are severe ...requires a Leitax mount exchange and you have to deal with a manual aperture . Size and handling are excellent .

    3.New Zeiss high performance lenses ..I believe the first lens is a 58/1.4 . The design parameters were to produce the very best IQ without cost or size constraints . The lens is huge larger than the Leica S lenses . These aren t available yet but they had prototypes at ProPhoto Plus last OCT .

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by VINCET View Post
    I am thinking of getting a 50-60mm lens for my D800e. Planning to use it as all around lens and is looking at either

    1. Nikon 50 f1.8G - heard lots of good things about it and cheap
    2. Nikon 60mm f2.8G micro - closeup is a good bonus but at a few stops slower.
    3. Nikon 50 f1.4G - Not too bad and not too expensive
    4. Zeiss 50 f2.0 Makro - really liked the Zeiss color (love my 100mm MP)
    5. Nikon 50 f1.2 AIs - would have been nice if it is chipped.

    AF is not too big an issue, although can be a bonus. Same with micro/macro capability. More concern about IQ.

    Any feedback greatly appreciated.
    Well if you really like your 100mm Zeiss, then the 50mm version should be a no brainer for you.

    I am also looking for a 50 for the D800E. I already have three Leica R's but the prices of the Leica 50's are crazy right now. So for me the Zeiss is the next logical choice. Is the Zeiss 50 1.4 not a good performer? No one seems to talk about it. It is very confusing for sure.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    FWIW, I demoed a ZF.2 50/1.4 and was NOT impressed at all -- it never got sharp corners even at f8. However, the center was sharp all the way through -- so if somebody wants a lens with a unique look wide open, it may be worth looking at. But IMHO it's a lot of money to lay out for a manual focus lens that never gets critically sharp outer-third edges. If I were going to a ZF 50, it would be the f2 version...
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    I have the Zeiss 50mm f2 Makro-Planar for use on my D800E and am very pleased with it. I'm not a particular fan of autofocus, preferring to focus manually whenever conditions allow, and I'm really impressed by how easy it is to focus this lens on the ground glass of the D800's screen - the ZF.2 focus confirmation is nice but not essential.

    I find the colour rendering, sharpness and contrast to be excellent but I don't often use it wide open.

    It is well served by the profile correction tool in Lightroom.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Jack, I agree with the sentiment of Manouch regarding embarassing shot :-)

    Guys, great discussion and feedback. I was surprise initially that there were no mention of the Zeiss 50 f2 MP but eventually, it started and they were mostly positive.

    For me, I ended up getting the 50 f1.8G. It seems like a good lens already and I paid $185 for a used mint one so can't go wrong at that price. The price I paid is probably less than the depreciation of the 50mm f2.0 MP :-) which is what I wanted initially.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Just be aware that critical manual focus with any sort of limited DoF is very difficult with the D800, because of the AF-optimized bright screen. Even using the center AF point and refocusing for a static subject will yield vastly better results. You can get plenty of shots acceptably sharp but very little critically so, leaving you wondering why you'd use a 36MP camera. Live view will become essential, but it's very slow to work with. For moving subjects, forget it; it's a waste of time, unless you're happy with ~10MP'ish worth of image. For this reason I'd recommend anyone to get an AF lens, unless we're talking very wide or shooting at f/8 on a 50 at modest distances.

    For a portrait anywhere wide open you have to choose between watching for focus on a live view or watching the subject. Smiles held will quickly look strained and if you can't work efficiently and shoot on emotional reaction your work will suffer. For this reason, for medium-format like portraiture results, I'd strongly recommend an AF (even an old AF-D) lens used in AF-C mode, AF tuned, with an AF point laid over an eye or wherever else you want to draw attention. You don't have the screen of a Pentax 67II or RZ67 in there...
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    I'm just not a big 50mm focal length fan myself so I been putting money on other focal lengths more but I still need a 50 on occasion and have the 1.8 since its sharp and cheap. But the Zeiss 50 macro would be my choice if I was fond of that focal length. I'm tempted by the Sigma 35 1.4 but have the Zeiss 35mm F2 which I really like. Not sure the Sigma would be better but my next lens out of pocket money would be the Zeiss 135 f2 that I want without gang something else up.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    The latest 50/1.8 G is a slam-dunk (D800e, D3s). One of the best 50s I've owned across Canon, Leica R, Zeiss and CY. Pulls WELL in excess of it's weight (price wise). I knew it would be a bargain (much like the Canon version), but it's performance really surprised me - so much so, I see no need to replacing it...
    +1 to all of that. I like the 50mm focal length and have used all the Canon EF 50s (except the f/1.0), Zeiss ZF 50/2, ZM 50/2, and others. The Nikon 50/1.8G is one of my favorites, even without taking price into consideration. It does everything well (optically and AF-wise), and I like its character as well.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    The 50/1.8 G seems to be the flavor of the century according to all reviews and I think this review is best:

    Seven 50mm prime lenses for Nikon F-mount compared by Cary Jordan | Nikon Rumors

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    For my money the 50mm f2 Zeiss is a hands down winner. The 50mm flavors of Nikon are cheap for a reason..... Quality control is at a minimum. I wouldn't buy any Nikon glass without the ability to return it if not happy.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    After web browsing ...I got 50 1.4d today...the most regretful lens ever bought. A very cheap design...and made in China. Focusing is noisy and images are not sharp.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    I should have added -- if I was okay with manual focus only, I'd get the Nikkor 50/1.2 AIS. Truth be told, I may get one anyway, but the net difference in performance between it and my 50/1.4G is pretty small for most applications...
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I should have added -- if I was okay with manual focus only, I'd get the Nikkor 50/1.2 AIS. Truth be told, I may get one anyway, but the net difference in performance between it and my 50/1.4G is pretty small for most applications...
    Even I agree. At least you get a well made lens with very little plastics.LuLa has a good review on it. It is most useful wide open & close distances. It is not that great for landscapes.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Hello,

    I owned some of 50mm (not the 1.8 nor 2.8).

    My first one was superb, it was the SIGMA 50mmf1.4. Really nice lens, magical in his way. This is a love affair with Sigma gear but I sold it; I will wait till they build a new 50 in the way of the late 35f1.4.

    My second one was the 50f1.4 AFS-G. Nice lens, it do the job but the lack of personality drove me to sold it very quickly.

    My third was the Planar T* 1,4/50. I do not have any problem to manual focus, actually I love that more than AF so I was very happy with this one for a looonnng time even in reportage... until I cracked and bought...

    ... A brand new 50mm f/1.2 Nikkor I sold the Zeiss and I can't be more happy with a lens than this 50f1.2. Need to be tamed, of course but what a pleasure !! It work great on D800/E also.

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    A lens I forgot to mention that I loved and will buy again (had too many 50-60mms at time) is the Voigtlander 58/1.4 SLII Nokton (Ais lens). Uber sharp, just gorgeous manual focus mechanics and 'feel'. I liked the bokeh, some don't. Considered by some as a poor man's 'Noct.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by glenerrolrd View Post
    AF is a big deal for most D8ooE users .
    It is... and the reason is the stock screen isn't conducive to manual focus. (Forget LV and holding a camera at arm's length, not to mention not being able to frame and focus at the same time.) If you miss focus by even a little, or the subject moves between focusing and framing in the case of LV, you lose whatever critical property made you buy that lens in the first place. The exception is "character" lenses used wide open where the focal plane is so soft it's hard to tell where it is, starts, or ends... These have their place of course. But for strict technical performance, AF is pretty much mandatory IMO. (I use single-point AF even for landscapes.)
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    The 50 1.8g is the best one I've used. I got it because I wanted a cheap knock-around lens, and it was so good it became the only thing I used for 5 months on a project.

    It is not a fetish lens. You won't be blown away by the way it feels in your hand or by the mechanical quality, and the quality of the blur is quite variable depending on aperture and distance and amount of defocus. I'd say it ranges from very creamy to neutral. A design with a rounder aperture and less mechanical vigneting of the aperture would have improved some of this.

    But I don't look to my lenses for "magic" or a "look." I'm looking for a reliable servant to my work, which has some range to it. For me, tools and materials that impose too much of their own personality can become a kind of gimmick or crutch.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Friends of mine have the 50mm G f/1.8 and I have seen the results shooting side by side. It is a fantastic lens for the price nothing short of amazing. I use a 55mm micro nikkor for my normal, f/2.8 is fast enough for me and in truth I rarely use any f/stop but f/5.6 or f/8, even in low light. I just very much like the resolution and I think the bokeh quite acceptable. The close focusing and in my case light weight is a further plus. I find that the d800e is fine at high ISO's, and in truth when photographing in really low light I accept a bit of noise as I would have accepted a bit of grain in film. I really do not think that every picture has to look like an 8x10 view camera. If it did I have one and would use it exclusively. Joe

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    How about this: A long time ago when I had my D700 I tried the 3) 50 f/1.4G and was not impressed at all, in the end I got the 5) 50 f/1.2AIs and that has stayed with me to this day.

    I now own the D800 and got that with 1)50 f/1.8G, unfortunately there was some terrible distortion, an off-axis lens, can be a freak sample, but wasn't going to hang around to find out! I also purchased at the time 2)60 f/2.8G Micro and to be honest I think this is very good lens. For sure it's not as fast, outdoors is no problem, indoors, I pop on a flash and problem solved!

    It really depends on how fast you want the lens to be, there may not be other options, but then again my all around lens for the D800 is the newer 24-120mm f/4 VR zoom, which is great, for everything else I have a pretty complete Canon system!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pophoto View Post
    ...unfortunately there was some terrible distortion, an off-axis lens, can be a freak sample, but wasn't going to hang around to find out!
    Nowadays, I don't call this kind of thing a freak ... more like "business as usual," or "roll the dice one more time ..."

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    FWIW, I am still very happy with my 50/1.4G

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    And here we are about 2 months later and I couldn't stand not having it, so just today ordered the 50/1.2. I suspect mine will never see any aperture other than f1.2 except for a test. Anyway, stay tuned for some example pics

    But I'm not selling the 1.4G
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    You will not regret it dear Jack
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    I am an total agreement with you regarding the 50 f1.2. Why shoot aperture other than 1.2 anyways :-)

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    Lens whore gear slut pig = my hero
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    Another quick note on the 1.8g. I recently used it as a landscape lens for the first time, and discovered a bit of field curvature at infinity. It was slight, but made a difference. This was the image (only the top and bottom cropped; there was nothing but sky andd water in the corners):



    There was no way to get the building with the smokestack in perfect focus at the same time as the cranes on the left. The difference was a milimeter or two of barrel turn. I experimented with aperture and different focal points, and settled on f8, with the focus backed off slightly from perfect in the center.

    The end result is pretty good. Not as great as a some other results I've gotten from the lens. I suspect in addition to the slight curvature it isn't optomized for infinity focus.

    I really wish the Japanese would give us MTF charts that contained actual information, so we wouldn't have to figure this stuff out by trial and error.

    Any thoughts on how this compares with the other options?

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Is that a stitch or a single shot? LR5 has automatic distortion correction for that lens (I have that exact camera/lens combo) and it does a rather nice job. If it is a stitch, you have to correct each shot before stitching and then again after stitching.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I had a good mentor! Speaking seriously, I wanted it and wanted to be totally familiar with it before our next workshop
    Yea I'm working on some glass too. I want my Zeiss 25 F2 back and/or get a really outstanding stitching lens. Like to try those new SK glass or maybe a Mirex system. Have to do some research on it.

    I have had requests for stock images and they are huge output files and need to look at building more Mpx through stitching. I mean BIG one is 9 ft x 20 ft as a example. Luckily I have some stitched MF stuff that will handle it.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    I love the 50mm f1.2 AIS and the 135mm DC. They have wonderful Bokeh.
    I also love the images produced by the 135mm Minolta/Sony STF - nothing like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Is that a stitch or a single shot?
    Not a stitch. Cropped. Corners contained just water and sky ... so I wasn't dealing curvature all the way out there. Just at the edges.

    LR5 has automatic distortion correction for that lens...
    I'm talking about field curvature, not distortion. LR does seem to handle the lens's modest distortion quite well.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Carlos,

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    If it is a stitch, you have to correct each shot before stitching and then again after stitching.
    Further to Paul's response to your post, why do you consider it necessary to correct distortion of images prior to stitching? It is not required by stitching software.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by AreBee View Post
    Carlos,



    Further to Paul's response to your post, why do you consider it necessary to correct distortion of images prior to stitching? It is not required by stitching software.
    If they are not individually corrected, they wouldn't match, would they?

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Thanks Jorgen, you beat me to the answer.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Jorgen,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    If they are not individually corrected, they wouldn't match, would they?
    The question is not if image distortion should be corrected - obviously it must be if images are to overlap exactly with their neighbours - it is if distortion should be corrected manually as well as by stitching software, as Carlos apparently does, or solely by stitching software.

    Stitching software takes image distortion into account, as noted in my previous post. Therefore, correcting distortion prior to stitching is unnecessary.

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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    Yes, but my OCD compelled me to do it this way.
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    Re: Which 50 for D800e, Zeiss or Nikon

    50/1.8G has a pretty much neutral bokeh wide open, right? No hot edge on OOF highlights?
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