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    "Look" lenses for Nikon

    Figured it might be something we want to have a list of, so I'll start with mine.

    So far my favorite look lenses are:

    105DC. This lens is very cool. Very sharp zeroed, nice rear oof control by dialing in a minus 1 or 2 points. Front oof control somewhat iffy, depending on subject, so I avoid using it. Know that it really is just pushing the focus point to either edge of the DoF zone, but acoording to my D800/E it is spot on with it's calibration.

    85/1.4G. This is quickly becoming one of my all time favorite lenses. The look is so good wide open, I find myself shooting it that way most of the time.

    50/1.4G. It's nice wide open, but not in the same league as the 85/1.4G IMHO. It's oof rendering is busier than the manual focus 50/1.2. I don't own the 1.2 yet, but may soon -- clearly would own it if it were auto focus.


    Honorable mentions:

    200/2: I owned and shot it, loved the look, hated the size and weight. It's really too long for most of what I want in a look lens, but a great option if you like that focal.

    85 PCE. If you count the tilted PoF effect as a look, then this is another fun option.
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    I agree on the 85mm1.4G, it's probably one of the best i've ever used. The 50mm should be part of one's kit based on price alone! Jack, is there any kind of protection on the front element of the 200mm f/2? Obviously I've not used one yet, but like this FL, but it's imperative that I have UV filter.

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    No front protection on the 200 but you can use filters in the rear of the lens. Look up the 200 at b&h and they should show the rear filters available but I'm pretty sure it has the UV filter in it already.
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    I would say my favorite look lens is the 105mm f/2.5 shot wide open. However the 200mm f/4 shot wide open has the nicest rendering for some botanical shots that I do. However that said from what I have seen the 105 DC is on my list, I think that is a special lens. Joe

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    Jack, agree on the 85 f1.4G. Love that lens.

    I also like the Zeiss 100 ZF.2 Makro Plannar for portrait.

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    Re: "Look" lenses for Nikon

    I am not even using any Nikon bodies anymore (though I still own a few)... I think the new APO Sonnar 135/2 would a lens to watch out for.

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    Yea, Vivek, if only the new Zeiss 135/2 APO-Sonnar were an autofocus lens, then I would indeed be very interested.

    But expensive as I expect it to be, there's no way I'm going pay that kind of money for a manual focus version.

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    "Look" lenses for Nikon


    Quote Originally Posted by VINCET View Post

    Jack, agree on the 85 f1.4G. Love that lens. (...)
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    One more vote for the AF-S 1.4/85 G - it has definitely become my all time favorite and 85mm has always been a very important focal length for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post

    (...) 50/1.4G. It's nice wide open, but not in the same league as the 85/1.4G IMHO. It's oof rendering is busier than the manual focus 50/1.2. I don't own the 1.2 yet, but may soon -- clearly would own it if it were auto focus. (...)

    I hear you, Jack, it's such a pity the AI-S Nikkor 1.2/50mm hasn't been released in an autofocus version yet, that would be absolutely awesome.
    In the meantime we'll have to do with the manual focus version.
    It's a nice 'look' lens provided you succeed to nail the focus manually which isn't all that easy. Talk about a narrow DOF.
    Fortunately the AI-S lens is not all that expensive and can be found used at a fair price, while waiting for the real autofocus thing.

    Now, this great thread needs some illustrations
    Some time ago I made these illustrations of the AI-S 1.2/50mm's rendition at f/1.2 - f/1.4 - f/2.0 - f/2.8 close up (just some boring test files).
    Close up, it shows some very charming out of focus rendering, I think.


    ©lick for native sizes


    © • Nikon D800E • AI-S Nikkor 1.2/50mm • 1/5000 sec. at f/1.2 ISO 100 • Capture NX2




    © • Nikon D800E • AI-S Nikkor 1.2/50mm • 1/5000 sec. at f/1.4 ISO 100 • Capture NX2




    © • Nikon D800E • AI-S Nikkor 1.2/50mm • 1/3200 sec. at f/2 ISO 100 • Capture NX2




    © • Nikon D800E • AI-S Nikkor 1.2/50mm • 1/1600 sec. at f/2.8 ISO 100 • Capture NX2

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    The 85 1.4G is a gem,I also like the 24 1.4G and Zeiss 21mm and 15mm too.. I was close to buying a 200f2 but it was too heavy,, much heavier than the canon version..

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    Re: "Look" lenses for Nikon

    My pick:
    - I like the 135 f2 DC a lot, same character as the 105 f2 DC Jack mentioned but a bit longer, better OOF areas and compression.
    - The 85 f1.4G, no question about it. A great "look" lens.
    - The 45 & 85 PC-E, and then the 24 PC-E in order of image quality, for the look experiments that the TS allows;
    - If you like environmental portraits with a moderate WA, I love the 24 f1.4.

    - The 50mm focal: here I'd choose the 50 f1.2, WONDERFUL character look; I had one and sold it a while ago, got into the way more practical and not too shabby 50 f1.4 G because it had AF - but will probably buy anothe r50 f1.2 very soon, I miss the look.

    That's about it for me...
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    Re: "Look" lenses for Nikon

    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    Yea, Vivek, if only the new Zeiss 135/2 APO-Sonnar were an autofocus lens, then I would indeed be very interested.

    But expensive as I expect it to be, there's no way I'm going pay that kind of money for a manual focus version.
    I'm all over this lens. Just need to find one. I have a HUGE gig just for this lens.
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    Re: "Look" lenses for Nikon

    Why is that not a surprise?

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    Re: "Look" lenses for Nikon

    Zeiss 25 f2
    Sigma 35 1.4
    I actually like the 85 1.8 not as nice bokeh but actually sharper than Jacks 85 1.4 which was mine. Lol
    200 f2 is untouchable in that focal length.
    50mm I don't care about , hate the focal length so just got the 1.8
    I want the Zeiss 135 . That will be my shining star lens

    I'm going to throw in the Samyang 14mm since yea it may not be a bokeh lens but it has a look that is unique in its own super wide way.

    In my hands right now the Sigma 35mm wide open is killer. As long as you can nail focus.
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    Lloyd Chamber's just published a test of the Zeiss 135 and it looks to be a stellar len's,possibly the best lens for a Nikon..

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    80-200mm f/2.8 AF-S
    This lens has never failed me. It's almost too perfect, but I can live with that. I use it for anything; portraits, sports, events, baking cakes.... almost.

    Another great lens that I don't have yet (just sold my 4/3 version) is the Sigma 50mm f/1.4. Since I've recently given away the 50mm f/1.8, it's time...

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    Re: "Look" lenses for Nikon

    are there any Nikon lenses that give a unique "look" almost a signature to an image? For the most part, I'm basically seeing fast glass here or is it only fast glass that is unique in rendition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hsteeves View Post
    are there any Nikon lenses that give a unique "look" almost a signature to an image? For the most part, I'm basically seeing fast glass here or is it only fast glass that is unique in rendition?
    Perhaps it's because the fast glass is usually the most expensive and the most R&D goes into it..

    Having said that ome of the slightly slower M glass is better than the more expensive alternative's and some people prefer Nikon's 85 1.8 to the 1.4 version.. and canon's cheaper 70-200f4 was better than the 2.8 version..

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    When I was on Nikon, the 105DC was also one of my favorites.
    Another special (but expensive) lens is the 28/1.4 Nikon.
    The 200/2.0 I share your feelings about size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    Perhaps it's because the fast glass is usually the most expensive and the most R&D goes into it..

    Having said that ome of the slightly slower M glass is better than the more expensive alternative's and some people prefer Nikon's 85 1.8 to the 1.4 version.. and canon's cheaper 70-200f4 was better than the 2.8 version..
    The 85 1.8 is really nice and I like it almost as much as the 1.4 but the 70-200 f4 is really good and a great call over the 2.8. I will have to sell mine though to get the Zeiss 135 f2 as ill have no choice since my photo budget is zero right now. The medical bills are absolutely outrageous from my wife's brain surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    The 85 1.8 is really nice and I like it almost as much as the 1.4 but the 70-200 f4 is really good and a great call over the 2.8. I will have to sell mine though to get the Zeiss 135 f2 as ill have no choice since my photo budget is zero right now. The medical bills are absolutely outrageous from my wife's brain surgery.
    Totally agree on the 85mm 1.8G.. it's better for many situation's,cheaper and a lot lighter and just as good at 1.8 as the 1.4G.. It has another differentiator. it can give great flare if you want it, (due to the lack of coating's I believe..)

    I empathise with your family's medical situation,I have been through a similar situation for over two decade's.. I had a head injury in a bike accident in 1990.. it wrecked me,I had 4 back op's and had my right arm broken ,set badly and re-broken to reset it.. a real ball buster..I was still unable to even look through a viewfinder for another 15yrs bacuase no one could figure out that I had something called idiopathic intracranial hypotension ...i have had about 18 mri's and nuclear medicine in the last few years and no face another op in North carolina soon... .. sorry for the rant

    Anyway I believe (from a post you made on LL) your wife is recovering from what I know is not just physically tough but mentally,emotionally and spiritually draining too,..i wish her the best.. health is wealth..

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    Thanks Rob . Not to go to far OT but its the emotional side and these nasty drugs she has to take that just alter her personality right now. The seizure medicine hopefully will go away next month , what a **** drug it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Thanks Rob . Not to go to far OT but its the emotional side and these nasty drugs she has to take that just alter her personality right now. The seizure medicine hopefully will go away next month , what a **** drug it is.
    I have experienced those drug's,it's probably a sodium transfer inhibitor.. dampen's brain function to control seizure's.. they do affect you profoundly,

    The emotional side of such an experience is extreme,it's a life changer to have to face up to own own mortality ..trigger's a cascade of thought's,fear's and question's..

    On the lighter note I am looking forwad to your report on the 135mm f2 Zeiss..

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    I do think the 200/4 is not mentioned too often but quite a nice lens.. I like the combo--- 200mm/4, 105mm macro, and the 85mm PCE for macro shots.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsf View Post
    I would say my favorite look lens is the 105mm f/2.5 shot wide open. However the 200mm f/4 shot wide open has the nicest rendering for some botanical shots that I do. However that said from what I have seen the 105 DC is on my list, I think that is a special lens. Joe

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    I really like the 35/1.4G and the 85/1.4G but the lenses that render really unique are my Voigtlander APO 125 and 180. Totally void of CA and a lovely color rendering.

    I used to own the 135DC and the 105DC too, these were also lovely especially when using the defocus control.

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    I like my old rodenstock 50/0.75 look but the DOF isn't that usable for other than macro work :P

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    Nikkor 50mm f1.2 AIS, which I use all most all ways use wide open. When I want that distortion and dreaminess. Maybe the Sigma 35mm f1.4 for the great contrast and quality @ f1.4.

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    Probably not in the same league as the other lenses mentioned, but I like the look of the old Nikon 35-70mm f2.8. A lot of them are fogged, but if you find a good copy, it is a sharp across the frame lens on the D800E with nice colour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsakBergwall View Post
    I like my old rodenstock 50/0.75 look but the DOF isn't that usable for other than macro work :P
    I had a few. Tried to use them as doorstops but found out there are better, real doorstops and so got rid of them for free. Some of these are radioactive hazards so they need to be disposed off properly as not to contaminate the environment!

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    I posted these already on another Nikon thread but I thought i would add them here so people can have a look if they like ... Zeiss 15mm .. camera is obviously tilted quite high which adds to the dramatic perspective..

    https://www.yousendit.com/download/U...dVUwZ2xESjhUQw

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    Again I also posted this on the fun with Nikon... thread but i also posted it here as an example of a nikon lens with the "[email protected]@K"..
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    I need to add an update -- the Sigma 50/1.4 ART has replaced both my 50/1.4G and believe it or not, my 50/1.2(!)

    And I have acquired a very nice copy of the 28/1.4 (asph) AF-D that is an incredibly nice look lens

    So my current short list "best" trio is 28/1.4, 50 ART, 85/1.4g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I need to add an update -- the Sigma 50/1.4 ART has replaced both my 50/1.4G and believe it or not, my 50/1.2(!)

    And I have acquired a very nice copy of the 28/1.4 (asph) AF-D that is an incredibly nice look lens

    So my current short list "best" trio is 28/1.4, 50 ART, 85/1.4g.

    I have a bad feeling I know the answer to this, but I'm assuming you prefer the 84mm 1.4G over the 1.4D ?

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    JCT,

    The good news for you -- at f1.4, there isn't a lot of difference, prolly because so little is actually in focus anyway.

    The bad news for you -- at almost every other aperture, the difference becomes more pronounced as the sharp is so sharp it cuts your eyeballs -- clearly sharper at the edges and still visibly sharper centrally(!) than the D lens -- then fades out to butter in the oof areas. Moreover, there is less Bokeh fringing with the G lens which renders cleaner oof...

    At 16MP, probably not a lot of total difference either. At 36MP I think it becomes more significant. Maybe not worlds better, but it is my humble opinion the difference is enough to be appreciated by most photographers. Whether it is worth the cost to upgrade is a more difficult issue. If possible, maybe rent or borrow first, or at the least when you buy, buy from a house you can return it to if it doesn't impress...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I need to add an update -- the Sigma 50/1.4 ART has replaced both my 50/1.4G and believe it or not, my 50/1.2(!)

    And I have acquired a very nice copy of the 28/1.4 (asph) AF-D that is an incredibly nice look lens

    So my current short list "best" trio is 28/1.4, 50 ART, 85/1.4g.
    Couldn't agree more Jack. I recently got both the 50 ART and the 35 ART and love both. Couldn't believe at first how large and heavy they are but whatever it is that Sigma had to do to achieve this "look" makes the size and weight acceptable

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    Greetings -

    My go to Nikon lens for a special look, especially for people/portraits, is the 58mm 1.4. Beautiful transition between "dreamy looking" in-focus to wonderful bokeh in the backround. The transition itself is what really makes this lens special and certainly unique in the modern Nikon lens family. Works beautifully with the Df.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    JCT,

    The good news for you -- at f1.4, there isn't a lot of difference, prolly because so little is actually in focus anyway.

    The bad news for you -- at almost every other aperture, the difference becomes more pronounced as the sharp is so sharp it cuts your eyeballs -- clearly sharper at the edges and still visibly sharper centrally(!) than the D lens -- then fades out to butter in the oof areas. Moreover, there is less Bokeh fringing with the G lens which renders cleaner oof...

    At 16MP, probably not a lot of total difference either. At 36MP I think it becomes more significant. Maybe not worlds better, but it is my humble opinion the difference is enough to be appreciated by most photographers. Whether it is worth the cost to upgrade is a more difficult issue. If possible, maybe rent or borrow first, or at the least when you buy, buy from a house you can return it to if it doesn't impress...
    Nicely put, Jack. My current plan is to get the D810 first (soon!) and give my current lenses a try to see how happy I am with them at 36MP. OK, so I treated myself to a Sigma 35mm ART already since I don't have a Nikon lens in that range at present .

    I expect that I will have to swap a few lenses with the body switch - and since 85mm is nearly my favorite focal length, the 85mm 1.4G will likely be the first new acquisition. Luckily for me, I am very compulsive with my gear, so I will likely get a good price for my D version - takes a bit of the sting out!

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    Sounds like a great plan Jil!
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    i was happy with the sigma 35 ART, i've just bought the sigma 50 Art… probably the best value for money lens, i've never bought !

    At f1.6 bokeh really similar to F1.4 but much sharper !

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