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    Digital Nikon FM2

    Guys ... Some of you already ordered the Sony A7r ?

    Why not waiting a bit more, seriously ?

    Breaking: new Nikon full frame hybrid (mirrorless?) camera coming soon | Nikon Rumors

    In short, here are the first "rumour" specs :


    Nikon FM2 like design
    16,2MP 36x23,9 full frame sensor (same as in the D4?)
    SD memory card
    2016-pixel RGB image sensor
    9-cell framing grid display
    3D color matrix metering II
    Native ISO range: 100-12800 (incl. ISO 50 and ISO 108,200)
    5.5 fps for up to 100 shots
    3.2" LCD screen
    Battery:EN-EL14
    Dimensions: 143,5 x 110 x 66,5mm
    Weight: 765g
    It will come with a new AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens (again, not clear what mount the new lens will have)
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    I'll believe it when I see it... At the store...
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    Digital Nikon FM2

    I`m in

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Never having shot an FM2 I am at a loss to understand what it was about this camera that made photographers hold it in such high regard.

    Would anyone care to explain?

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    Ha, that site is hilarious! Is it a real site? It may have...it might have.. I'm not sure yet... what the hell is the point?! I'm going to delete it from my history just in case I'm tempted to return at some point, might as well ask my 4 year old niece to draw me a picture of a camera and label it as breaking news.

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by AreBee View Post
    Never having shot an FM2 I am at a loss to understand what it was about this camera that made photographers hold it in such high regard.

    Would anyone care to explain?
    A very popular amateur camera that was great when it was working. After ~ 50,000 shutter actuations (a lot for film!), the shutter usually gave up. It is the size/weight and the simplicity compared to the F2s or the F3s (or the numerous plasticky AF models) that made it quite popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    I`m in
    I am not surprised.
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Some updates. It "seems" serious.


    Standard F-mount
    Pentaprism viewfinder (meaning the camera will not be mirrorless)
    The camera will meter even with non-AI lenses down to full aperture
    The camera will ship with a new special edition Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens to match the look/design of the body
    The camera will have physical controls and excellent build quality (which explains the 765g weight)
    Expeed 3 processor
    Same sensor as in the Nikon D4
    Nikon calls it a "hybrid" camera - not sure what exactly they mean with that
    The announcement most likely will take place in the next 1-3 weeks
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    As things develop, it's probably just a question of time before Nikon launches an FX mirrorless. A digital FM2 is as good a guess as anything else, so why not? Me, I would prefer a full frame V2 with an FM2 user interface and AF with AF-S Nikkors
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Some updates. It "seems" serious.


    Standard F-mount
    Pentaprism viewfinder (meaning the camera will not be mirrorless)
    The camera will meter even with non-AI lenses down to full aperture
    The camera will ship with a new special edition Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens to match the look/design of the body
    The camera will have physical controls and excellent build quality (which explains the 765g weight)
    Expeed 3 processor
    Same sensor as in the Nikon D4
    Nikon calls it a "hybrid" camera - not sure what exactly they mean with that
    The announcement most likely will take place in the next 1-3 weeks
    That would be very cool, particularly if "hybrid" means hybrid viewfinder (would require a pellicle mirror like a Sony SLT).

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulyss Bowman View Post
    Some updates. It "seems" serious.


    Standard F-mount
    Pentaprism viewfinder (meaning the camera will not be mirrorless)
    The camera will meter even with non-AI lenses down to full aperture
    The camera will ship with a new special edition Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens to match the look/design of the body
    The camera will have physical controls and excellent build quality (which explains the 765g weight)
    Expeed 3 processor
    Same sensor as in the Nikon D4
    Nikon calls it a "hybrid" camera - not sure what exactly they mean with that
    The announcement most likely will take place in the next 1-3 weeks
    That sounds fantastic!

    This might give me the excuse to buy the new (Noct successor) Nikkor!

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Sounds like a street shooter's camera.
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    I wonder why they would start by basing it on the FM2? Shouldn't the first one be after the FM?

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by AreBee View Post
    Never having shot an FM2 I am at a loss to understand what it was about this camera that made photographers hold it in such high regard.

    Would anyone care to explain?
    No. If you don't get it and you never used one, there is no way to explain it. The FM/2/3 and to a some level the FE/2 were wonderful, small, simple, reliable manual cameras. Much smaller/lighter than a F3 with a higher flash sync. Viewfinder sucked, but you could easily fit the camera with prime or small zoom lens, along with a handful of film, in a coat pocket and be off for the day. There was never any question of will it work and really no batteries to worry about either. Obviously digital requires batteries, but the FM/FE were small, simple, rugged, relatively inexpensive mechanical cameras. It has been argued that the Olympus OM cameras were the same but better. As far as long term durability, well, the FM died and the F3 still works, but the F3 has had all manner of electrical issues over the years. And despite what people say, the F3 is an electronic camera.
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    I wonder why they would start by basing it on the FM2? Shouldn't the first one be after the FM?
    It would be based on neither, I suppose, except for looks, size and simplicity.

    As for the comparison to the Olympus OM, the Olympus was first and had more small lenses to match the concept. The last Olympus models, the OM-3/T/Ti and 4/T/Ti were also much more advanced cameras, stuffed with electronics. Still, I always felt that the FM-FM3A had smoother operation and more solid build quality.

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    If it would be a FF mirror less, I would understand. I do not understand another DSLR based model, even if it is as simple as the original FM2.

    But even if I do not understand that model strategy, I would be very tempted to buy one, if it is similar to the FM2 - which I really loved!
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    I'll have one! I loved the FM2!

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    I wonder why they would start by basing it on the FM2? Shouldn't the first one be after the FM?
    Good point! If one of the rumor lines is to be believed it would have similarities to the FM and not the FM2.

    The camera will meter even with non-AI lenses down to full aperture
    The AI meter coupling tab in FM, IIRC, can be pushed out of the way to allow non AI lenses to be mounted and used unlike the FM2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Good point! If one of the rumor lines is to be believed it would have similarities to the FM and not the FM2.



    The AI meter coupling tab in FM, IIRC, can be pushed out of the way to allow non AI lenses to be mounted and used unlike the FM2.
    well I'm going to find out at PhotoPlus. Anyone else going?

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    The rumor site updated the leak info:

    Nikon FM2 like design
    16.2MP 36x23,9 full frame sensor (same as in the D4?)
    SD memory card
    2016-pixel RGB image sensor
    9-cell framing grid display
    3D color matrix metering II
    Native ISO range: 100-12,800 (incl. ISO 50 and ISO 108,200)
    5.5 fps for up to 100 shots
    3.2" LCD screen
    Battery:EN-EL14
    Dimensions: 143.5 x 110 x 66.5mm
    Weight: 765g
    It will come with a new AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens (again, not clear what mount the new lens will have)
    Standard F-mount
    No video recording capabilities
    Pentaprism viewfinder (meaning the camera will not be mirrorless)
    The camera will meter even with non-AI lenses down to full aperture
    The camera will ship with a new special edition Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens to match the look/design of the body
    The camera will have physical controls and excellent build quality (which explains the 765g weight)
    Expeed 3 processor
    Same sensor as in the Nikon D4
    Nikon calls it a "hybrid" camera - not sure what exactly they mean with that
    The announcement will be in the next few months, maybe even in the next 1-3 weeks:

    No video recording capabilities

    If that is true, I am in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmbma View Post
    well I'm going to find out at PhotoPlus. Anyone else going?
    You aren't going to find out anything if it hasn't been announced.

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    It's now modeled after a F3 and will be announced in 2 weeks. Photo rumors says
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    This is exciting if true and if Nikon can pull it off. Not so excited if it is just another Nikon DSLR with modern controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    It's now modeled after a F3 and will be announced in 2 weeks. Photo rumors says
    This is the digital Nikon F3 everybody wants | Nikon Rumors
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    Digital Nikon F3


    F3

    I think I need to lie down


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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    I'll probably buy one regardless of what body it actually does (or does not) emulate -- it'll be cool and it'll take Nikon lenses!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I'll probably buy one regardless of what body it actually does (or does not) emulate -- it'll be cool and it'll take Nikon lenses!
    Your such a slut but Im right there with ya. LOL

    The F3 was a major camera for me for a long time. I used the first polariod back on it from the Late Marty Forscher. Great guy

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    I had one of those too -- for about a week. The image was so small I don't think I ever even finished an entire pack of polaroid with it! It was decent for checking lighting and that was about all I can say that was good about it.
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Thanks for posting those pix, Steen - it really shows how enormous modern dSLRs have become.

    I have long been waiting for a digital FM2 - to use with my old Nikkor lenses - no AF ...... hoping for a good viewfinder!

    Looking forward to this release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post

    (...) -- it'll be cool and it'll take Nikon lenses!

    and it will look good

    heck, it might even make me look good

    think something along the lines of David Hemmings sitting on Vanessa Redgrave's belly

    Correction: it's actually not Vanessa Redgrave, but Veruschka. See Gandolfi's correction in post # 40, also confirmed by Paul Raphael in post # 45. Thank you, Gandolfi and Paul !



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I had one of those too -- for about a week. The image was so small I don't think I ever even finished an entire pack of polaroid with it! It was decent for checking lighting and that was about all I can say that was good about it.
    Exactly and we thought we where spoiled just to have that technology than. Today its a cake walk


    Before that back shooting Kodachrome i had to meter about 10 lights on a set than guess at everything and pray your butt off till you got film back. Compared to than shooting digital is not even remotely a challenge any more. People don't realize how lucky we have it.
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    Digital Nikon F3


    I'm already planning to photograph in a desolate park and then find a corpse or its murderer in the image ...



    ©lick for blowing up


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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Steen, you are sick!


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    Canon wait
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    Re: Digital Nikon F3

    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    [COLOR="Gray"]I'm already planning to photograph in a desolate park and finding a corpse in the image ...

    . . . . . I'll be in the bushes . . ..

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Steen - I was looking on the iTunes store - sure enough, blow up is there . . . . but not the wonderful Zabriskie point (sob)

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

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    Steen, you are sick!


    No Jack, just very very old (like me)

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    hey Jono

    compared with me you are definitely still a young man

    with regards to Zabriskie Point you can find it as a DVD on amazon.co.uk - if DVD is a digestible media ?

    good hint, btw., I have to see that movie again soon
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    hey Jono

    compared with me you are definitely still a young man

    with regards to Zabriskie Point you can find it as a DVD on amazon.co.uk - if DVD is a digestible media ?

    good hint, btw., I have to see that movie again soon
    DVD? Okay Steen, perhaps you are younger than me

    We just watched Barry Lyndon the other night - excellent - much better than I remembered it.

    Sadly I'm not really in line for this Nikon (all Nikon glass gone). I'll just have to carry on slumming it with the outré Leica M.

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    [QUOTE=Steen;544168] Vanessa Redgrave..

    Pedant Alert!!!

    It was Veruschka.

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    Digital Nikon FM2

    Oops, there you see, I am getting old

    Thank you for the correction, Gandolfi

    Looks like I need to see Blow Up again too.

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    if this is real, color me happy .....
    Still have 3 Nikon lenses that did not make the sell off, and would gladly sell the X-Pro1 to get a FF Nikon!

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    For me, the digitalFM question boils down to quality and calibration of the pentaprism and screen for manual focusing. I'd like high resolution, but I'd settle for great manual focusing. To me, that would make a dFM a better value proposition than a D600/610. Throwback aesthetics would be a nice sentimental touch, but are entirely unnecessary.
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    Oops, there you see, I am getting old

    Thank you for the correction, Gandolfi

    Looks like I need to see Blow Up again too.
    Because of you guys, I'll have to see The Passenger again. Luckily, the penultimate shot is available on tubetube, again and again and again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    think something along the lines of David Hemmings sitting on Vanessa Redgrave's belly


    Yup, it's Veruschka. She was my nextdoor neighbor in Brooklyn for around 8 years. She fed all the neighborhood cats, and I'd sometimes see her working her patio garden wearing fatigues.

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Can this finally be a DSLR without a ridiculous grip?

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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Okay here is the latest update out of Photo Rumors. This sounds nice folks

    I feel pretty comfortable with the information I have published so far on the rumored Nikon full frame retro-styled camera. Today I received another list of specifications from a new source that slightly differ from what I have already reported (different battery, LCD screen size, etc):

    Will be called Nikon D4H
    Will use EN-EL15 battery
    3" LCD Screen
    EVF/OVF hybrid viewfinder
    Can be used with true mirror lock up for non-AI lenses while still allowing viewing through view finder.
    New hybrid mechanical shutter
    No AA filter
    No video in low power mode but otherwise it will have video (?)
    Expeed 3A processor
    Price: $3,000 for body only, $3,300 for a kit with the new 50mm f/1.8G lens
    Black, Black/Sliver and Chrome version will be available
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    "Low Power Mode" = great idea, get around the awkward power consumption of always-on live view cameras while allowing their features to be activated when needed.
    Good thinking.

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    Digital Nikon FM2


    I don't think the new information from this new Nikon Rumor source sound quite as likely as the information from the earlier sources.

    I especially have a hard time believing:

    the name
    the battery
    the lack of blurring filter
    the video ability
    the price

    I tend to trust more the sources "Piggy White" and "Mr. X" in this matter.
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    Re: Digital Nikon FM2

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Okay here is the latest update out of Photo Rumors. This sounds nice folks

    I feel pretty comfortable with the information I have published so far on the rumored Nikon full frame retro-styled camera. Today I received another list of specifications from a new source that slightly differ from what I have already reported (different battery, LCD screen size, etc):

    Will be called Nikon D4H
    Will use EN-EL15 battery
    3" LCD Screen
    EVF/OVF hybrid viewfinder
    Can be used with true mirror lock up for non-AI lenses while still allowing viewing through view finder.
    New hybrid mechanical shutter
    No AA filter
    No video in low power mode but otherwise it will have video (?)
    Expeed 3A processor
    Price: $3,000 for body only, $3,300 for a kit with the new 50mm f/1.8G lens
    Black, Black/Sliver and Chrome version will be available
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    It sounds nicer to read the comments, especially #1.

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