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    First shots with the Otus

    The traditional open th box and shoot anything regardless of how stupid it is. I believe most of these were at 1.4. I borrowed my neighbors D600 since my D4 is out till tomorrow.

    All I can say, it's amazing! I have owned the Noctilux, and all sorts of exotic glass. This Otus is the KING of bokeh!

    It does not feel heavy at all. At least on the D600. The only thing I do not like so far is the stop at infinity. It makes that hard metal on metal bang when you reach the end of the rotation. However, it is the SMOOTHEST focusing lens I have ever felt.

    Here are a few pics









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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Looks very good. Wish it wasn't so expensive.

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    Ditto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Looks very good. Wish it wasn't so expensive.
    You get what you pay for Jorgen.. and this kind of quality is never cheap,I ordered one but my dealer told me the next deliveries are a few months away..

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    How about doing an aperture series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrew View Post
    How about doing an aperture series?
    You might find this useful.. Otus 1.4/55 - a set on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    You get what you pay for Jorgen.. and this kind of quality is never cheap,I ordered one but my dealer told me the next deliveries are a few months away..
    If I had any guts, I should sell all my gear except the D700 and the F6 and buy this, the 25/2 and the 100/2. Unfortunately, I don't have enough guts
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    I got the guts just not the cash. Lol
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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Looks delicious!

    The manual focus lenses thread ought to include this lens!

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    I'm willing, I'm able....well...um, I'm able when I win the lottery...LOL!

    Thanks for posting of these images and it certainly has me wanting to see more of what this lens is capable of.

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    My D$ should be in today. Shuould get some real world pictures by tomorrow on a better sensor and raw. These were all in camera jpegs from neighbors D600.

    I must say after owning Leica and it's exotic lenses, I find the bokeh on this otus will be hard to beat. And when you compare the price to the noct or new summicron, it's a bargain


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    This lens looks as good as I had hoped, I'm going to test it when it gets to Sweden. I can see adding this and having Zeiss 21, 55 and 135 as being my basic kit supplemented by older mf lenses for the in between bits, very cool!

    Enjoy it ryc (lucky git!)

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    Anyone have a final price on this yet.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    I'm no doubt gonna catch a whole bunch of crap for saying this out loud, but initially at least it looks a whole lot better to me than Nikon's 58/1.4. Would like to see more portraits first though…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Anyone have a final price on this yet.
    I thought the street price was around $4000 at this point.

    By the way, there is a tiny piece of food still stuck to that silver colored spoon...LOL!

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    My $700 50/1.2 (that I already own) is looking a lot better and a lot more precious to me this week.

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    The light fall off from the 50/1.2 AiS (even on APS-C) made me sell it. The good news is that a forum member is using it on his Canon FF.

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    Better pictures to come later tonight or tomorrow.

    price is 3990.00 a LOT less than Leica's best and a lot better too

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    JT - How you finding focus 'pop' in the 800e's VF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    JT - How you finding focus 'pop' in the 800e's VF?
    I used a d600. surprisingly focus was fairly easy and it came in fine. on the F6 with the split prism screen, it is night and day better. not to mention the brighter view finder. will let you know how it works on the d4 later tonight or tomorrow.

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Quote Originally Posted by ryc View Post
    price is 3990.00 a LOT less than Leica's best and a lot better too
    The only problem with that price is that it will go down in years to come unlike the Leica lenses (because Leica keep jacking up the prices every year or so).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryc View Post
    I used a d600. surprisingly focus was fairly easy and it came in fine. on the F6 with the split prism screen, it is night and day better. not to mention the brighter view finder. will let you know how it works on the d4 later tonight or tomorrow.
    Thanks Jorge. With an MTF & rendering very similar to my beloved 135/2 APO, which I find easy (relatively speaking) to focus via the OVF on the 800e and D3s, I was hoping the Otus would behave similary re: the VF.

    While a nice high-contrast prism screen for the 800e would be sweet, I suspect we'll see 'pro' DSLR-sized bodies go mirror-less with the associated EVF & focus peaking before we again see high-end DSLRs with replaceable focus screens.

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    This does look substantially better than the Nikon 58/1.4 (I am digging thru the first 100 captures with that lens ). The bokeh is similar to the Leica R 50/1.4 (60mm) as good as I ve seen anywhere . The box from B&H arrived yesterday so my OTUS is here as well.

    I sort of know the differences ...the Nikon handles better ..its short with excellent balance and has fast/silent AF . After adjustment it can pick a letter out on a UPS label at 2 meters with a D800E. The OTUS will have much better image "aesthetics" but it is large ,heavy and uses a very long throw focusing mount ...so its slow . Depends on the subject and the photographer ..how those attributes affect its evaluation .

    Looks like an abundance of riches for Nikon owners . Those samples look sweet .
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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    RYC

    Surprised you feel the D4 has a better sensor than the D600 . We have both cameras as well as the D800E . The differences come out as ISO gets above 800 or when you are looking for extreme enlargements . At base ISO the D600 produces a file at or near best in class . I actually prefer the D600 files for color at base ISO over the D4 or the D800E . Its the same sensor as the Sony RX1 only with Nikon s calibration . I think all three sensors are amazing and depending on what you enjoy shooting ..can each be best in class. (the D4 is a much much better camera but here we are just speaking to the aesthetics of the image quality . )

    I think your test shots all look great with the OTUS on the D600. Thanks for providing them .

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    What an absolute impressive lens!
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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The light fall off from the 50/1.2 AiS (even on APS-C) made me sell it. The good news is that a forum member is using it on his Canon FF.
    Some of us (uh hum -- ME!) like the light fall-off of older fast designs.

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Some more stuff. Used light room and applied "Direct Positive" to most of these for that snappy look.

    You can follow other uploads here: zeissimages.com - The photo gallery.











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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Okay, the second shot got my attention. Forget the shots on Flickr. None of them, well maybe one of them, shows what I'm looking for. I suppose I'll keep my order in just to check it myself.

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    This lens looks better than the Nikon, more my look. I want something sharp wide open with good fall off.
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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Here are a few captured on Film with the F6 and Kodak Portra 160 NC. After all, Notall things are digital






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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Quote Originally Posted by ryc View Post
    I used a d600. surprisingly focus was fairly easy and it came in fine. on the F6 with the split prism screen, it is night and day better. not to mention the brighter view finder. will let you know how it works on the d4 later tonight or tomorrow.
    Hi JT.. very, very nice pictures! while you is going on, could you be persuaded to post some from the D600 and the D4 taken of the same object, same contions? (while I would like to see the soul-difference of those two cameras (to consider if the Df is worth risking ones life, going for, instead of the D610)
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    Thorkil,

    I am sorry. But the D600 was on loan while my D4 was in the mail. All I can say from my personal preferences is that I prefer the files from the D4 over the D600. However, the D600 is a fine camera. I just don't like anything over 16 or 18 mp.


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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Quote Originally Posted by ryc View Post
    Here are a few captured on Film with the F6 and Kodak Portra 160 NC. After all, Notall things are digital
    Where are the OOF color fringing that we are so accustomed to in any such bokeh images?

    Delightful, JT!

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    Some great images folks, I'm a liking what I'm seeing…… but ouch - what a blow to ze wallet….. guess its time to save up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    Some great images folks, I'm a liking what I'm seeing…… but ouch - what a blow to ze wallet….. guess its time to save up.
    It will be interesting to see what Sigma's next Art lens is like...

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    Hi Guys
    Though I rarely post or publish I have to say that the Otus is simply outstanding! This coming from someone who owns a Leica S and a D800E as a previous owner of every great Leica M lens there is. This is a rental copy from borrow lenses until my order comes into my dealer.
    They're taken with a D800E except for a few crops these are mostly unprocessed.
    Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    It will be interesting to see what Sigma's next Art lens is like...
    I want the 24-105 immediately. PR lens
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    Im really liking what I'm seeing from this lens.
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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Ok, Maybe it's too sharp. This is on a 16 MP D4. Imagine a D800E

    Shot at f2.2 with a D4 and SB910 flash. Just goofing around on a Saturday night. Look at the fine nose hairs



    and the 100% crop



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    Just for giggles. my new puppy.


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    Lovely puppy!

    Great lens…….

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Quote Originally Posted by ryc View Post
    Ok, Maybe it's too sharp. This is on a 16 MP D4. Imagine a D800E

    Shot at f2.2 with a D4 and SB910 flash. Just goofing around on a Saturday night. Look at the fine nose hairs
    FWIW, you get to see such fine details with any lens (say 50/1.2 AiS or 50/1.4 AFS..) and flash lighting.

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    LensRentals.com - Otus is Scharf

    This article by Roger Cicala is pretty good.the Otus is an awesome lens

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    FWIW, you get to see such fine details with any lens (say 50/1.2 AiS or 50/1.4 AFS..) and flash lighting.
    Agree flash although really picks the detail almost any lens would look good with it. Nice to see but don't use it as a real guide to lens performance. This lens just happens to look outstanding anyway but avoid flash results per say. Outside of this , this lens I would like to have in my bag. Looks exactly what I am after. The fall off is outstanding and with the sharpness wide open gives a nice 3d rendering.

    This my friends is a look lens. Price is killer though to get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    LensRentals.com - Otus is Scharf

    This article by Roger Cicala is pretty good.the Otus is an awesome lens
    So we have an answer.

    The question: how much more does it cost to design a lens that at f/2.8 outresolves other lenses at f/5.6.

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    More stuff


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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    here is one from today. Back lit, no fill flash. Just pulled all the shadow detail out of the D4 sensor.





    To see a larger version just go here and click on the image

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    One word ****
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: First shots with the Otus

    I just count myself lucky I don't have a camera to put it on!

    . . . . oh! actually I guess I do! (help)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    One word ****
    And there will probably be a wide and tele version of this lens to follow.. this a snap of one on an A7R


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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    And there will probably be a wide and tele version of this lens to follow.. this a snap of one on an A7R
    Shhhhhhhhh

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