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    Understand that I have a Leica Monochrom, Leica M-E and Blackmagic Pocket
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    Nothing like hedging one's bets...


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    Re: Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
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    I know you can make a Nikon sing....you would love this camera.

    These are from the Df...and I have not put it on a tripod yet...all handheld.
    actually wonderful Pictures !
    (hope they doesn't require specialist-skill and special processing in post)

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    In Los Angeles with the DF using the 58/1.4g and 24/1.4g.
    Love the D4 sensor.
    I feel awkward using the camera and I'm not very fast at making adjustments.
    Hopefully I will get better.

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    Re: Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Jono

    I know you can make a Nikon sing....you would love this camera.

    These are from the Df...and I have not put it on a tripod yet...all handheld.

    [CENTER] Nikon Df 50 1.8 Kit Lens


    Aero and Smithy
    Thank you Bob!
    The reason I stopped shooting Nikon (last cam was D700) was because of a tricky yellow 'cast' in late evening light. Now this shot looks rather like it's still there? But of course, not having been there it's hard to be sure.

    Joe, those are lovely images.
    All the best

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    Hi Jono,

    There seems to be a much more neutral balance to this camera's sensor...what you describe is the reason I left Nikon...loved Sony....just not a lot of ZA glass - well a few select lenses but not a wider range of exotics. I have heard one person mention an improvement in Nikon yellow bias even on the older bodies with the Nano coat lenses.

    The picture in question was indeed that yellow from very early morning and a weird choice of yellow paint for the windmill. It was used on a lot of the buildings in the train yard and when early, late or with overcast conditions really is an almost gourd yellow color...not lemon.

    Here is another example....

    Nikon Df 50 F1.8 Kit Lens


    Train Car Rust in Yellows






    I do think that the overall balance is now very neutral but that the somewhat strong color saturation exaggerates any potential yellow source...an example is the Gingermen and Stuff pic above where the table is a bit too honey colored.

    This picture is of a caboose in a very strong yellow/red that shows this tendency:


    Nikon Df 50 F1.8 Kit Lens


    Rail Sign in Yellow






    However looking for the yellow bias of old, I was heartened by this pic which is about as dead neutral as possible...shot maybe 20 minutes after the Aero and Smith picture.


    Nikon Df 50 F1.8 Kit Lens



    Rail Tie






    The brown and yellows pretty much rendered as they appeared to me that morning.

    I would recommend that you trial the camera if at any point you think you may be interested in one...as a caution they are still a bit bigger than the m43 and Pentax K cameras.

    Not sure if I elucidated much with the above other than to say I am pleased with what this camera delivers...I do need to shoot some portraits and people shots to look at skin tone rendering. From what I see with the camera I suspect it will be great with a mild drop in saturation of colors.

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    Joe, nice images. May I ask what ISO you used inside the Observatory?
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    Thank you Jono and John.
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    Re: Nikon Df

    Joe,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Joe,
    +1! Both Joe's and Bob's images really demonstrate a lot of the positive attributes of this camera's potential, not to mention the lovely imagery they posted themselves. Nice!

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    The newer Nano coatings produce a more "blueish" file than the older lenses. I have a 135Dc and when I shoot it next to my 85/1.4 nano coated G lens ...the difference is obvious . Its not all the coatings as Nikon s CMOS sensors tend toward yellow green (compared to CCD) ..but my wife's D600 shows almost none of this bias .

    Can anyone compare the viewfinder to a D800???? My guess is they are identical but I am hoping for some improvement .
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    So I found a hack to import Df RAW files into LR....does not seem to work with C1

    Here is a conversion of the overly saturated yellow file from NX2 ... looks not to be a sensor issue but software....as LR renders this file pretty close to neutral.

    Nikon Df 50 F1.8 Kit Lens LR Raw Conversion



    LR Conversion Rail Sign in Yellow





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    Same theme...this LR conversion is more neutral....


    Nikon Df 50 F1.8 Kit Lens LR Conversion


    Rail Car Rust in Yellow LR





    Thanks,

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    OK

    The hack allows files to be seen in C1 as D4 files....

    Here is a quick...and I mean slam dunk quick conversion of the overly yellow file that Jono highlighted earlier...

    NIKON Df 50 F 1.8 Kit Lens C1 Conversion


    Smith and Aero C1 Conversion




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    Re: Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by glenerrolrd View Post

    Can anyone compare the viewfinder to a D800???? My guess is they are identical but I am hoping for some improvement .
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    Here are a few C1 conversions.....

    Nikon Df 50 F 1.8 Kit Lens C1 Conversion



    Steam Engine Detail 02







    Train Turntable







    Cow in Field Redux







    Wreath and Guage 02





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    These images look VERY natural. They look "Analog" as compared to looking very digital. They look much better than the renderings I got with my D800E, IMO.

    Color me impressed. I hated the look of this camera at first. But after seeing these images, it's growing on me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Photojazz View Post
    I hated the look of this camera at first. But after seeing these images, it's growing on me...
    Agree,

    I realized that I did not look at the camera...looked through it...at that point a D4 chip in a smaller body sold me on the camera.

    And it looks better by the day!


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    Here are a few C1 conversions

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    I checked Capture 1 and didn't find the DF on the list of supported cameras. Is it supported?

    I use mainly LR5 and there's no support for the DF yet. I do have Capture 1 express 6 and would buy 7 if it supported it.

    I received my DF yesterday and love it but the supplied view NX is terrible. Matter of fact it's pathetic. The camera can't even get close to its full potential until there's raw support in LR and C1.

    As to the camera I'm very pleased. I've been a nikon user in my work since 1970 and the DF feels so familiar. The fit and finish is excellent and image quality for in camera jpg and tif files is very good. If the jpgs look this good the raw images will yield very fine images. I'm especially pleased with the ease of switching between between current G glass, AI and non AI lenses. Great job nikon!

    The only changes I'd make if I were the designer would be to change or make possible for the user to change focusing screens. I'm one that likes a split image with microprism collR around it. Thinking about it it might be due to the ability to maintain precise positioning of the focusing screen to maintain accurate focus. It also may be due to losing the ability so see some of the focus points with Splitcwedgs right in the center. The provided screen seems to be the same as my D800. It's not terrible but it could be improved. The only other thing is the razor wheel. I didn't like them on the RF bodies and I don't care for them now. It would have been a big improvement it they had made the same type of wheel as I the D800 and other bodies. Again it's no big deal but it seems awkward to me.

    Other than these minor changes so far I think it's near perfect.

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    Re: Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Here are a few C1 conversions.....

    [CENTER] Nikon Df 50 F 1.8 Kit Lens C1 Conversion



    Steam Engine Detail 02







    Thanks,

    Bob
    Thanks.
    They look very diffent to NX2!
    But powerfull, less saturated indeed, a bit harder(bit more contrasty)(perhaps just a matter of lifting the shadows a bit) (and I guess more like real life perhaps, allthough some of the soft rendering in NX2, was very pleasent too), and Black is more Black (one can almost feel the texture/surface)
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    i dont know if its just the photographers and post processing but Inadmit that the files in this thread look very good,rich iMO.
    I still have some Nikon lenses.... if I did not have the 5d I would like to check outthe df. And if I could testrun one I would happily shoot it side by side with my Canon and see which camera I like better. I think they should have offered the D4 sensor in a smaller body earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Identical --

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDudenbostel View Post
    I checked Capture 1 and didn't find the DF on the list of supported cameras. Is it supported?

    I use mainly LR5 and there's no support for the DF yet. I do have Capture 1 express 6 and would buy 7 if it supported it.
    View NX is not adequate for a camera and sensor this good...Capture NX2 is very good and for some conversions may be best.

    Neither LR nor C1 support the RAW Df file as is but with an EXIF editor you just change the camera value from Df to D4 and voila the programs are very happy working with the files. Some of these editors work in batch mode and leave the original file alone so when an update to C1/LR arrives the original file has been untouched and will then be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenerrolrd View Post
    Can anyone compare the viewfinder to a D800???? My guess is they are identical but I am hoping for some improvement .
    Bjorn Rorslett says the eye point is different allowing those who wear eyeglasses to see the entire frame and other early adopters on the Nikongear site concur.

    I must say I'm growing more interested in this body. The D4 sensor is a gem. But I need to hold one in my hand first to check the ergonomics. Since I live in a vast camera wasteland I'll probably have to rent one first.
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    Bob thanks for the info on the exif editor. I'll download one and give it a try.

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    EXIFChanger seems to me a pleasant way to work while avoiding
    command line parsing in Terminal.

    Here are a few more pics fromC1/PS CC as I have more time to tune the process....


    Nikon Df 50 F1.8 Kit Lens



    Yellow Caboose







    Tankcars on Siding







    Tankcar Detail






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    Couple more same process...


    Nikon Df 50 F1.8 Kit Lens



    Rail Car Brake in Green







    Silos and Tree 2






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    Bob it worked like a charm. I just purchased an EXIF editor through the mac store and edited several images in LR5. Perfect! Had no idea it was so easy.

    By the way I love your shots. I refer to rust as a camera magnet. What is it about rust and old weathered paint?

    LR is such a great tool. I think the only files other than raw that I've shot were TIF back when I first got my D1 when they first came out. Raw is the only way to get the full potential out of the camera.

    I have a Hasselblad digital system, D800 and M9 plus the DF. The Hasselblad is amazing but the FF 35's are catching up. In some ways the Nikon exceeds the Hasselblad and the slight edge the Hasselblad files have can't be put on paper. For all practical purposes the D800 and DF are better tools for most applications.

    I would love to see Nikon step forward and be bold. I'd love to see a non autofocus camera for B&W only. Just build a camera around manual focus lenses and remove the unnecessary dials and buttons and the camera would only shot NEF files. If that were the case I don't think the LCD would even be necessary. Also do away with the built in motor and have a thumb wind. Really make it a Digital F, F2 or F3. We didn't have all the options when we shot film so why do we need anything more than selectable shutter speeds, aperture (ring) and ISO. It worked for us in the 60's so what has changed?

    Be bold Nikon! Be brave!!!! Be an innovator!!!

    Many thanks!

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    Don't you mean be a de-innovator? LOL.

    I think taking away AF is going one step to far, and a step that Nikon won't take. First off, because all of their lenses currently produced that are new products are AF lenses. That means an entire new line of lenses is required unless they just sell out to Zeiss for lenses. I don't see that happening, do you?

    I think it is realistic to see a Monochrome F mount, that gets back to basics, while not necessarily seeming quite so nostalgic as a qualification. But a very good camera with a very good sensor, dedicated to BW. That is a realistic possibility, now that they are entering the "specialty" camera sales area, at least more and more than they were.

    D800E and Df, both represent steps on that direction.
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    A few street shots in Los Angeles with the Df and 58/1.4g.
    Also, sorry I moved some files around and broke the link to an earlier post.
    Don't know if it is fixable so I added them below.
    Hope you don't mind.















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    Don,

    I am glad that you sorted the RAW issue ... it is a better way to view files and work with them if you have the skill set and the time.

    I dropped my H3D 39 II and Leica S cameras due to time constraints and a shift in shooting priorities. Miss part of the subtlety of the files and the resolution but am pleased with my current camera lineup...

    The camera you are describing is the Monochrom...and it does work wonderfully.

    I have turned the review function off on the Df and will do a manual review if lighting changes a lot to ensure I am not blowing highlights but in essence ignore the blinking screen on the back...AF is relegated to the AF button not the shutter release so it is in effect a manual focus camera with an assist...or to quickly get me in the ballpark.

    I do think these files will be great for BW/Platinum in many instances so we are really not that far from your desire...just set the dials and ignore the rest...almost. Finding those AF lenses with a decent MF feel to the focus ring requires a bit of work at this point but well worth the effort. The ZF.2 lenses are superb with regards to construction and feel...many of them outstanding optically.

    I am so pleased they still have a smaller body with a fairly decent optical VF...in spite of the limitation of no substitute screens.

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    A few street shots in Los Angeles with the Df and 58/1.4g.



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    This picture is disturbing in that the foreground right-sided face of the woman is overlapped by a bright element seemingly from the side of the man with the dream team shirt.

    Any clues as to cause?

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    Re: Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Joe

    This picture is disturbing in that the foreground right-sided face of the woman is overlapped by a bright element seemingly from the side of the man with the dream team shirt.

    Any clues as to cause?

    Bob
    PP mistake surely!
    Bob, I'm still not sure about the yellows. They look scarily like those I objected to so much in the D700
    The sensible side of me tells me to wait until there is Aperture support (my poison) and try before I buy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Joe

    This picture is disturbing in that the foreground right-sided face of the woman is overlapped by a bright element seemingly from the side of the man with the dream team shirt.

    Any clues as to cause?

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    No clue. Shows up in the raw file. Of course exif has been modified for lightroom so who knows? Bizarro.
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    Nikon made / makes an dntire line of MF lenses. Not certain if they are currently in production but B&H has a nice lineup of brand new in the box MF lenses. My wife ordered a new 50 1.2 for me for Christmas. With a few revisions they could make improvements for the high res sensors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDudenbostel View Post
    Nikon made / makes an dntire line of MF lenses. Not certain if they are currently in production but B&H has a nice lineup of brand new in the box MF lenses. My wife ordered a new 50 1.2 for me for Christmas. With a few revisions they could make improvements for the high res sensors.
    That is where it went!

    I had my eye on it for a few weeks....

    Congratulations.

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    Bob, I'm still not sure about the yellows. They look scarily like those I objected to so much in the D700
    The sensible side of me tells me to wait until there is Aperture support (my poison) and try before I buy!

    All the best
    I agree that Aperture support and how it deals with those will be important.
    I cannot say about them as I have had the camera for such a short time. It will work for me as the amount seems relatively easy to fix in PP.


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    Re: Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    No clue. Shows up in the raw file. Of course exif has been modified for lightroom so who knows? Bizarro.
    It's a pretty standard effect of spherical aberrations --- the foreground oof area fringes and blurs out over some of the the PoF areas.
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    Bob, sorry about that. Looks like they have them on order though which implies either Nikon has a stash or they are still in production.

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    This picture is disturbing in that the foreground right-sided face of the woman is overlapped by a bright element seemingly from the side of the man with the dream team shirt.

    Any clues as to cause?

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    It is most likely caused by a combination of a really wide aperture/entrance pupil, objects away from the object plane, and the emphasized by processing by applying contrast.

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    There have been a lot of comments about how good the ZF lenses are. My needs are a bit different than many on the forum as I do commercial and documentary work, My documentary work is often under terrible lighting which demands good performance at maximum aperture. When I purchased the D800 I bought a 25 f2, 35 f2 and 100 f2 ZF set. I wound up sending them back seriously disappointed. Stopped down to f8 they were good but anyone cam make a lens that produces good images at f8. I need fast glass and f8 won't do it. I wound up sending it back to B&H and bought a Leica M9. I already had current glass, 25 Elmar, 35 Summlux FLE, 50 Asph Summilux, 75 Summilux and 90 apo asph Summicron. The Leica glass performed amazingly well wide open but have spent nearly a year getting my new M9 straightened out. In the end most of the lenses had to go to Leica for shimming and calibration and my 90 is back again. The M9 had to have a new sensor, mother board and one other board. Sad for a new camera and three new lenses. Anyway I think the M9 will be a great camera for my work but the DF will be a great addition too. It has such spectacular high ISO so all I need to do is put together a few good fast lenses and I'm in business.

    I do some hard core work, see attached.
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    There have been a lot of comments about how good the ZF lenses are. My needs are a bit different than many on the forum as I do commercial and documentary work, My documentary work is often under terrible lighting which demands good performance at maximum aperture. When I purchased the D800 I bought a 25 f2, 35 f2 and 100 f2 ZF set. I wound up sending them back seriously disappointed. Stopped down to f8 they were good but anyone cam make a lens that produces good images at f8. I need fast glass and f8 won't do it. I wound up sending it back to B&H and bought a Leica M9. I already had current glass, 25 Elmar, 35 Summlux FLE, 50 Asph Summilux, 75 Summilux and 90 apo asph Summicron. The Leica glass performed amazingly well wide open but have spent nearly a year getting my new M9 straightened out. In the end most of the lenses had to go to Leica for shimming and calibration and my 90 is back again. The M9 had to have a new sensor, mother board and one other board. Sad for a new camera and three new lenses. Anyway I think the M9 will be a great camera for my work but the DF will be a great addition too. It has such spectacular high ISO so all I need to do is put together a few good fast lenses and I'm in business.

    I do some hard core work, see attached.
    Yes, the Leica glass is amazing but so it the Zeiss. I found the hard way that the D800 and manual focus was very unforgiving. I ended up with a D4 and kept all my Zeiss glass. They perform very well and focus is tac sharp. Personally, I find the only advantage of the M is in size. I have had many M's and Leica glass and found that they needed service quite regularly. The slightest bump to the camera would throw the RF off. In the end, I am 100% SLR now and have never looked back.

    Your street work is impressive.With the exception of a few AF shoes most everything is manual focus Zeiss or Nikon glass.

    zeissimages.com - The photo gallery.

    and this is nothing but the 50mm 1.2

    nikonimages.com - The photo gallery.

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    Very nice work. I have new G glass for the D800, 16-35, 24-70, 70-200 VRII, 85, 85 TS and 24 TS. I want a couple of good prime wides in manual focus. I've read the 28 f2 is good and the 2.8 AIS. Again I want very good wide open performance. I had one of the new 28 1.8G lenses and didn't like the construction or the feel of manual focus. Optically it was very good but manual focus was sloppy. I know the 28 1.4 is superb but it's ridiculous in price but then again so are the Leica lenses.

    I've used M's since 1968 and used them heavily for many years. I had very few problems with cameras and lenses prior to the 80's and then things changed. Leica just doesn't build equipment like they used to.

    Until last year I shot all of the documentary work on B&W film. I carried 3 MP's and lenses and sometimes a ZM body. I purchased a new MP and within a year the shutter went out. I had three lenses that were disasters as well. I've used Nikon film cameras about that long too and never had any major problems. The biggest problem with my nikons was an F2 motor that had a rewind gear go out. I can't tell you how many thousand rolls had been through that camera. Matter of fact I still have one of the bodies and it's still going strong.

    I still like RF cameras and there's a use for them in my work but I'm a huge fan of the Nikon cameras too. Actually if I could only have one body it would be the D800 and the lineup of glass I have.

    Love seeing your 50 1.2 images. I purchased one from KEH and returned it after testing it. it was in rougher shape than they rated it and I decided to prompt my wife into getting me a new one. I was quite impressed with it n the D800 and know it will be great on the DF.

    I'm thinking my DF kit should include a 28 but prefer the 24 but it's not that good (have one) and a 35mm. I haven't tried a 30 f2 AIS yet but will do so. I've owned them and the 1.4 in the film days but never tried one on digital. I have an old 2.8 pre AI that actually is pretty good wide open but would like a faster one. I'll have the 50 1.2 and may pick up an 85 1.4 and a 180 2.8. I had the 180 2.8 and loved it in the film days. I also have a first generation 105 2.5 Sonnar type Nikkor Pre AI that's very good and purchased a 105 micro that is killer wide open on the D800.

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    Is there a quick way to set auto ISO?

    Often times I find the manual mode being a bit of overkill to set iso/speed/aperture, but nevertheless I still would like to set my aperture and shutter speed (which determines the look of the picture). With such an awesome sensor and accurate metering, I would like to just let the camera decide for me on the ISO. Flipping through the menu I found the AUTO ISO setting. But this is a bit unwieldy. I would love to map it to one of the function buttons. Anyone knows how to do it? Or pointers?

    Aside from the question, I would also like to say a few words about the DF. Thanks to this thread and all the amazing images here, I just returned my omd em1 for the df, and am now extremely happy. Here's why.

    The images out of the omd just didn't have that magic that inspired those little goosebumps like when I first loaded my M9 images into lightroom or seeing the prints from my M6/portra 400. With the DF, goosebumps all over again.

    I am not sure why but perhaps it is the depth of field. M43 cameras have a very different depth of field. Yes I know the conversion; but seeing is believing. To me a F2.8(+-) in full frame with a 50mm or 35mm (even 28mm), with the subject about 2-5 meters provides just enough bokeh that isolates the subject, but not enough to obscure context too much. It's gorgeous. (Personally I am a big bokeh hater and am convinced bokeh is invented by lens manufacturers to sell us expensive gears). M43 F2.8 on the other hand is completely different. This difference somehow is just big enough to make isolating human beings difficult. Hence here's my theory on the M43 sample images online (flickr or reviews): whenever one wants to demonstrate bokeh with M43, one always shows shots of small objects like flowers, shoes, or little insects but never people. So in some way, to me, full frame is a very "human" format.

    The second thing about M43 is this lack of richness in rendering. (The following is very subjective.) I can't pinpoint it exactly what it is but sharp and well exposed M43 images always give me a gritty feeling, similar to eating spinach. The images that come out of my old M9 and the new DF however have a certain richness like really well prepared foie gras pate. It's smooth, oily and flavorful. And as an aside, I would say the images coming out of the Leica M240 or my dad's Canon 5D2 are smooth but a bit watery and bland (but some post processing are generally enough to bring the richness back).

    Finally, for the controls, many online complained about the ergonomics and the dials. I think it's actually quite alright. Every camera needs a bit of getting used to. My M6 has a tiny speed dial in full stops, which render the shutter speed neither precise nor adjustable while holding to the eye. But one can easily work around it. As far as my experience goes, there is really nothing fundamentally flawed about the DF. It feels immediate and very customizable (aside from my question). And a full 28/50/85 1.8 kit costs just slightly more than my freaking Leica 50lux, what's not to like?

    Back to my question, anyone?

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    Is there a quick way to set auto ISO?

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    Back to my question, anyone?
    Yes. It's a main menu item where you can choose your maximum ISO value, then additionally assign a minimum auto shutter speed, or speed based on 1/focal length of lens mounted to plus or minus 2 stops. You choose the base ISO from the external ISO wheel.
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    You can also assign it to a custom function button too.
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    Found it. I assigned it to the front preview button + dial, and preview to fn button. Knowing it can be done I guess is half way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDudenbostel View Post
    Nikon made / makes an dntire line of MF lenses. Not certain if they are currently in production but B&H has a nice lineup of brand new in the box MF lenses.
    The MF lenses that are still current are:

    20/2.8 AIS
    24/2.8 AIS
    24/3.5 PC-E
    28/2.8 AIS
    35/1.4 AIS
    45/2.8 PC-E
    50/1.2 AIS
    50/1.4 AIS
    55/2.8 Micro AIS
    85/2.8 PC-E
    105/2.8 Micro AIS

    FXフォーマット用レンズ - FX Manual Focus Lenses

    Add me to the petition for a dedicated monochrome camera that's less finicky and more affordable than the MM!

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    ... and as per usual DPreview have tried their very best to extinguish all interest in this camera by a collection of lack-lustre and on occasion outrageously ludicrous photographs. Why on earth do manufacturers continue to let these bozos exhibit their kit?

    Just my two cents

    LouisB

    PS Joe Marquez has already sold me on the camera in a way DPreview never could.
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    @ biglouis --- VERY well said!
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