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3 lens for the D800 - money no object....

trioderob

Member
if you had to be restricted to 3 lens for the D800 (E)
with money no object and including MF lens what would you buy - based solely on image quality ?

(so in other words weight, size and and other factors were total non issues - only image quality factors such as sharpness/ bokeh/chromatic aberration/lens coatings/ optical design/ were factors)
 
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mjr

Guest
For me it would Zeiss 21 2.8, Otus, Zeiss 135 f2, that's my list!

Mat
 

trioderob

Member
general photography.

the kind of lens you buy and keep forever assuming you stay with the same system.

if you have a specialized interest - lets say you are into sports or birding it can be part of your (3)

I dont expect the list to work for everone
 

Paratom

Well-known member
Zeiss 21/2.8, Sigma 35/1.4 ART and 70-200/2.8VRII
however if size, money and weight were not a factor I would rather use MF
 

Jack

Sr. Administrator
Staff member
For Image Quality but ----- to me IQ means more than line-pairs per milimeter; it's a total package of high sharpness and pleasing contrast with smooth bokeh. Soooo, that said here are my 3:

My short: Nikkor 28mm f1.4. However since this is an older design with a hand-ground aspheric element, you need to search out a good copy. Plan to pay for it and go through two or three before finding a beloved one. Possibly my most used lens.

My normal: Nikkor 50/1.2 D. It's a manual focus lens but delivers amazing results. I do not personally care for the way the new 58/1.4G renders, nor do the any of the current Nikkor 50 AF lenses suit me any better. The OUTUS might, but it's also MF, bigger and more expensive AND focally longer (and perhaps too long) than the 50/1.2 I already own and love. BUT, the 50/1.2 may get dropped in favor of the Sigma Art 50 when I finally get one in the upcoming weeks -- depends on how it draws, but if anything like the 35 Art then it promises to be very viable.

My long: Nikkor 85/1.4G by a whisker over the 105DC. Simply outstanding optically and nothing bad to be said anywhere about it except its weight. One other option here would be the Hassy Zeiss F 110/2 -- an amazing optic with phenomenal imaging characteristics, but it's all manual and stop-down metering. Though honestly, the 105DC is almost as sweet, is AF and electronically coupled and has the option of the DF ring. So for me, it's a really tough call between the 105DC and 85/1.4G for my longer lens -- some days it's the 105 in my bag, others the 85.

My caveats *IF* I preferred some other focal ranges: In superwide the Zeiss 18 ZF2 is tough to beat -- I prefer it over any current 21 by a fairly large margin, though Guy's F-mount converted 19mm Leica R was very sweet. (In fact I wish I had bought it when he sold it, but could not get myself to pull the trigger simply because I don't shoot that wide very often and I have a 17-35 zoom that covers that range well enough for me.) Ironically, there are NO 24's I am enamored enough with over the same 17-35 zoom to put them on this list -- but to clarify the zoom is not an iconic lens, just a worker bee that works for my needs in that wider range and why it's not on the list. In 35 it would be the Sigma Art, done. 135 would be the Zeiss, hands down one of the best optical performers I've ever seen regardless of focal length, format or manufacturer. Only reason I don't own one is because I never cozied up to the 135 as a focal length I easily visualize in. Finally in longer, the 200/2 Nikkor is amazing too, essentially right up there optically with the aforementioned ZF 135 -- my only nit being a relatively long minimum focus distance and weight...
 

JohnBrew

Active member
I use these: Zeiss 21 2.8, Zeiss 55 1.4 & Nikon 85 1.4G. I don't believe you can do any better than choosing these lenses. I feel pretty well set with this trio. Something better might come along but it would have to be pretty darn fantastic to replace any of them.
 

Dustbak

Member
Money no objection. I assume this includes money for a caddy....

1) Nikon AFS VR 200/2.0
2) Nikon AFS 35/1.4
3) Nikon AFS 58/1.4

I have all 3 of these and use them extensively with the exception of the 200. For that I often compromise and bring the 70-200VRII. I would love to bring the 200/2.0 instead.

It is a hard choice and maybe the ZF lens is better in areas but I prefer using the AF lenses nowadays.
 

mmbma

Active member
If sharpness is your #1 criterion, then DXOmarks has already ranked it for you:

Sharpest lenses on 800E, which is the sharpest Nikon camera currently

 

archivue

Active member
sigma ART 35
sigma ART 50
Nikon G 85/ 1.4

but, i've just order a nikon 50 1.8 G SE… because sometimes art lens aren't just small enough !

but it depends so much of your type of shooting,
if i wasn't using my arca RM3D 90% of the time, my 3 lenses were =

24 pc-e
45 pc-e
85 pc-e

i still can't understand why there's no 35 pc-e !
 

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
For me, it would be all AF-lenses and probably all Nikkor:

24/1.4
58/1.4 (alternatively the Sigma 50/1.4)
105/2.0 or 135/2.0, probably the latter.
 

fotografz

Well-known member
if you had to be restricted to 3 lens for the D800 (E)
with money no object and including MF lens what would you buy - based solely on image quality ?

(so in other words weight, size and and other factors were total non issues - only image quality factors such as sharpness/ bokeh/chromatic aberration/lens coatings/ optical design/ were factors)
Money no object? Image quality is subjective and can be a combination of qualities that add up to a special lens not just some clinical sharpness measure.

I'd choose the legendary Zeiss CY mount 21/2.8, 28/2 "Hollywood", 50/1.2 Anniversary, and 85/1.2 Anniversary … plus a fee to Sherlock Homes Inc., to find them ;)

For a zoom, the uber-rare Leica R24-70/2.8 … and 70-280


- Marc
 

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
Money no object? Image quality is subjective and can be a combination of qualities that add up to a special lens not just some clinical sharpness measure.

I'd choose the legendary Zeiss CY mount 21/2.8, 28/2 "Hollywood", 50/1.2 Anniversary, and 85/1.2 Anniversary … plus a fee to Sherlock Homes Inc., to find them ;)

For a zoom, the uber-rare Leica R24-70/2.8 … and 70-280


- Marc
I assume that you will change the lens mount on the D800 to CY to avoid the rather destructive modifications necessary for the f/1.2 lenses to fit the F-mount :shocked:
Or will you simply transplant the innards of the Nikon to a suitable Contax body? :D
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
Money no object? Image quality is subjective and can be a combination of qualities that add up to a special lens not just some clinical sharpness measure.

I'd choose the legendary Zeiss CY mount 21/2.8, 28/2 "Hollywood", 50/1.2 Anniversary, and 85/1.2 Anniversary … plus a fee to Sherlock Homes Inc., to find them ;)

For a zoom, the uber-rare Leica R24-70/2.8 … and 70-280


- Marc
Agree with your first sentence. If your after a look than it will change from a set that is clinical in sharpness.

Btw there really is no such thing as money no object, there always is a ceiling. If there wasn't you would not be wanting a Nikon. MF comes to mind immediately and I can spend your money in a NY second that would make your head spin. Lol
 

fotografz

Well-known member
I assume that you will change the lens mount on the D800 to CY to avoid the rather destructive modifications necessary for the f/1.2 lenses to fit the F-mount :shocked:
Or will you simply transplant the innards of the Nikon to a suitable Contax body? :D
I used the 28/2 "Hollywood" and 55/1.2 Anniversary on a Canon 5D … the C/Y to Nikon adapter won't work?

In that case then I'd move to Leica R optics … Latest 19/2.8, Mandler 35/1.4, later 50/1.4, and the Mandler 85/1.4 … longer lens would be the R180/2

- Marc
 

Jack

Sr. Administrator
Staff member
Marc,

I had the pleasure of owning the 35/1.4 and 80mm/1.4 R Mandlers back when I shot Canon. Amazing optics to be sure.

HOWEVER and IMHO only: The Nikkor 28/1.4 ASPH -- which has an actual FL of closer to 30mm -- has a nearly identical rendering to, but is notably sharper (centrally) than the 35 Mandler wide open. The latest Nikkor 85/1.4G again renders a lot like the Mandler 80, but is significantly sharper. It is nearly as sharp as the Z 135/2 but that sharpness is served up with a healthy dose of Mandler-esque cream to f4.

As a totally irrelevant aside, IMHO the absolute best 50 I ever owned period, was a Mandler 50/1.4 Pre-Asph M lens, a gen 3 IIRC. I liked the way it drew better than any Cron or Mandler Noctilux, and I owned plenty of both trying to get even better than the little Mandler Lux. BUT once again, the little manual Nikkor 50/1.2AFD is pretty darn close -- very close. Probably a little closer to a gen 3 1.0 Noctilux M than the Mandler Lux M -- so that will calibrate where it falls on the scale for me -- so very seriously among the nicest 50's I've ever owned. I have high hopes for the Sigma Art 50, but it's got a hurdle to get over in this pack...

I know you don't shoot Nikon, but you should really get a look at these lenses just so you can see them first-hand...

PS: I still occasionally kick myself for not buying Guy's N converted 19R when he sold it, but at that time money was an object :( . If I had managed it, I would own the ultimate quad of rendering glass for my Nikons...
 

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
I used the 28/2 "Hollywood" and 55/1.2 Anniversary on a Canon 5D … the C/Y to Nikon adapter won't work?

In that case then I'd move to Leica R optics … Latest 19/2.8, Mandler 35/1.4, later 50/1.4, and the Mandler 85/1.4 … longer lens would be the R180/2

- Marc
No adapters because of the similar register distance. Some of the smaller aperture lenses can have the mounts changed easily, but at least for the 85/1.4 a more elaborate modification is required. I guess that would be the case for all the f/1.2 lenses, but if it's possible depends on the size of the exit pupil. The F-mount is rather narrow.
 
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