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    I've tried a few different 45 PC-E's and was disappointed in their mediocre performance, which is unfortunate.
    Jack, I'm a bit surprised by your comment, as I thought the 45mm PC-E was optically quite good - at least that is what I was lead to believe….

    I know the 24mm can be problematic…. a true pity…. and we're very happy with the 85mm… now I'm a bit confused about the 45mm…..I was really interested in this for table top macro work....
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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Swiss,

    In fairness I've only tried 2, one used and one new, but did return both as they did not impress -- not even as good as my 24. All I can suggest is if you do buy one, make sure you can return it if it does not pass your inspection optically. And of course, if you happen to find one that is good please let us know!

    (In fact, I am in the process of obtaining a Sony A7r simply to have a camera I can mount multiple 40-50 options on and have movements -- either mounting a Canon version directly or via a Cambo ACTUS system using Hassy, Mamiya or Rodenstock or Schneider MF glass.)
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    Thanks for the reply Jack.
    I may look into using our old Hassy lenses in a similar way…..

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Just for the record... I just tried out a Canon 45 TS-E on the Sony -- while it was sharp enough centrally, it showed pretty heavy CA outside the center ⅔. Surprisingly, a 40 CF-E Hassy lens (on ACTUS w/A7r) was notably worse on resolution than the Canon, though better on CA. I may just re-investigate the Nikkor 45 PC-E at some point.
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    First tripod shot with D810. Still not sure I will keep this one, but it is an interesting camera body.
    D810, Zeiss 55 1.4 @f16.
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    Re: Fun with the D810

    I must have a decently good copy of the 45 PC-E lens. Its not quite on par with my 85 PC-E but is certainly better than the 24 PC lens I had and sold some time ago. So I am inclined to believe there are good 45's to be had.

    To be a bit more specific, my 45 PC lens does exhibit just a bit (but not much) CA and is not quite a sharp especially toward the corners as the 85 PC lens. Putting numbers to it, I would say the 45 is about 90-95% the quality of my 85 PC.

    One other thing worth mentioning is the 85 OOF areas are about as good as it gets, so for those bokeh junkies its a lens well worth owning.
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    Used the Nikon D810 at the Nutcracker. Such a treat to shoot with a much quieter DSLR (quieter than the Df). This was also the first time I used group area focus and it worked well, particularly during panning. Paired with a 400mm f2.8 AFI, the D810 produced lovely images with exquisite detail. Rather than bore you with lots of photos, here are a couple of unprocessed images with no noise reduction, sharpening or anything else except one stop was added to the second ballerina. I've also included a handful of full size crops (about 1100 x 735 pixels) to show some detail.

    f2.8 1/320sec iso2000












    f2.8 1/320sec iso 1250 (added one stop in post)



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    Used the Nikon D810 at the Nutcracker. Such a treat to shoot with a much quieter DSLR (quieter than the Df). This was also the first time I used group area focus and it worked well, particularly during panning. Paired with a 400mm f2.8 AFI, the D810 produced lovely images with exquisite detail. Rather than bore you with lots of photos, here's a single unprocessed image with no noise reduction, sharpening or anything else. I've also included a handful of full size crops (about 1100 x 735 pixels) to show some detail.

    f2.8 1/320sec iso2000









    Comes up with "Content Protected by Owner".

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    Thanks Jorgen. Fixed.
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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Here's a test with the Sigma 50mm f/2.8 Macro. Very sharp of course, but too contrasty, too much of everything really. As soon as I buy another 50, this will go back where it belongs, next to the tabletop studio in my office. Shadows pulled back and contrast reduced in this photo.

    D810 with Sigma 50mm f/2.8 Macro @ f/2.8

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    Children's day today. Big stage at school. Everyone is a performer

    D810 with Sigma 50mm f/2.8 Macro @ f/3.2



    D810 with Nikkor 105mm f/1.8 AiS @ f/4

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    Just a quick snapshot, taken on the way home New Year's Eve, with the D810 and the 24-70mm f2.8G (hand-held)

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Here's a certified insane lens; the Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6, the "expensive" red ring APO version that sells for $100-150 on the Great Big Auction Site nowadays. I don't know what to say, other than "WOW". 100% crops will follow another day (too much sambuca, grappa etc. after dinner tonight), but here's a sample, unedited except sharpening for web at 80/0.3/0. It's plastic to the core and feels cheap in every possible way except image quality.

    D810 with Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO @ 195mm and f/4.8 (wide open)



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    Obviously, subject isolation suffers slightly when the distance to the subject increases, but the price difference to a $6,000 Nikkor 200mm f/2 means suffering too... a lot

    D810 with Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO @ 195mm and f/4.8 (wide open)

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    D810 with Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO @ 300mm and f/5.6 (wide open)

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    D810 with Sigma 50mm f/2.8 Macro @ f/4

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    D810 with Sigma 50mm f/2.8 Macro @ f/3.2

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    D810 with Sigma 50mm f/2.8 Macro @ f/5.6

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    I forgot to post a 100% crop of the portrait taken with my $100 Sigma 70-300 lens. Here it is (no sharpening):

    D810 with Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO @ 195mm and f/4.8 (wide open)



    and here's the full frame:

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    From this morning on our Moab workshop, Green River overlook. D810 w/17-35/2.8 at 25/f8, 1/10th, ISO 64, processed in C1.

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    Balanced Moon

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    Green River Overlook

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    Re: Fun with the D810

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    Balanced Moon

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    Very Nice Bob
    Thank you, Jono

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    Lasal Mountains
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    Re: Fun with the D810

    One from last night, Garden of Eden with the LaSalle's in the background. D810, Sigma ART 50, ⅓sec @f8 ISO 64:

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    Bryce detail #NOFILTER

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    Last one for now -- Bryce from yesterday morning. D810, Sigma ART 50, 1/8sec @ f8:

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    From this evening waiting for the light

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    We are killing the WiFi wireless system here at the hotel. LOL

    Man its fun being out here shooting with friends

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    Nice images gents - looks like fun - enjoy!

    Envious….

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    Turret Arch, Arches NP. D810, 17-35/2.8 at 22mm, 1/30th @ f8. Processed C1, cropped to 2:1 aspect then converted for web. Pure morning light in Moab

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    Bob, Jack - is the difference between these 2 images solely due to C1….?
    It is striking…..?

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Swiss,

    Firstly, Bob is about 2 meters to my right and a meter lower.

    Secondly, we had a lot of veiled cloud cover and light was changing very rapidly. In less than 2 minutes our prime shooting time went from blah to peak back to blah. However, in that 2 minutes I -- and I suspect Bob and everybody else too -- captured several varied images worth processing out! And these went back and forth from minimal Sunlight on the monolith to harsh contrasty light, and in the end back to dead flat. So favorite image selection is individual preference.

    And then of course there is processing. Both Bob and I use C1. But then these are first go-arounds on our laptops form our motel rooms after waking early to shoot, so not a lot of time is being spent. Next, Bob prefers more neutral WB than I; I prefer slightly warmer and am usually about 200 points K warmer than Bob. I also prefer more localized contrast for punch and brightness for roundness, while Bob likes more neutral and flatter portrayals. So as with most landscape images, the end result is what each artist likes most taken from what they shot, and then processed to their individual tastes.

    But that said, I am definitely printing this one up close to what you see to at least 12" x 24" and likely larger
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    D810, 85 1.4G wide open.
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    Here is my version of yesterday evening's set up. I am going to name this spot "Disappointment Point" We set up this perfect composition, had great clouds and then waited for the Sun to do it's thing and color everything up. And right when it started to do just that, the Sun went behind a huge freaking cloud and stayed there until it was too late to light the LaSal mountains and clouds in the background. We packed up and drove out for cocktails.

    D810, 50 ART, 1/125th @ f8, ISO 64:



    PS: Got to reiterate that the 50 ART is a truly amazing optic!
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    Tonight's Sunset worked a little better for us, so spectacular just to have been there out in it that it really didn't even matter we were shooting. D810, 50 ART, 1/6th @ f8, ISO 64:



    Then I found this one from a few minutes later -- not sure why I missed it initially, but then I am beat. I think I prefer it to the first? Needs some more careful processing on my big monitor, but I think it may be a keeper. Same as above but 1/4sec and I actually had to dial back saturation the foreground rocks were so red!:



    Matt suggested we think about this one in B&W too -- good idea! Here was my take, same spot from a few minutes earlier, converted to B&W in C1:

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    Nice shots folks. Im off to the left out of sight sitting in the dirt and working it . LOL
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    Ditto - nice work, folks - great location.

    Jack - thanks for the info…..

    … and I'm really have to get a 50mm ART!

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Okay, one more before we head to Zion. 17-35/2.8 at 24mm, 1/3rd @ f8, processed in C1:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I forgot to post a 100% crop of the portrait taken with my $100 Sigma 70-300 lens. Here it is (no sharpening):

    D810 with Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO @ 195mm and f/4.8 (wide open)
    Hi

    it seems that you do not have any problems with low shutterspeed and this 36MP sensor. With 1/200s @around 200mm it is very impressive sharp.

    What is your experience with your D810 and handholding speed to achieve satisfying results? Currently, I try to stay at 1/3x FL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Okay, one more before we head to Zion. 17-35/2.8 at 24mm, 1/3rd @ f8, processed in C1:


    Thanks Jack.
    A gorgeous shot. Processed just right for my eyes.
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    Green River Overlook

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    Many thanks Bob.
    I really like this one.
    To my eyes it looks very natural.
    How did you process it?
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    From last night

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Many thanks Bob.
    I really like this one.
    To my eyes it looks very natural.
    How did you process it?
    TIA.
    Using capture one adjustment layers, I applied selective contrast enhancement to the canyon while leaving much of the image alone.
    I did that to make the canyon the subject, otherwise it was ambiguous .
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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Getting close to my final image from this trip as we finished this evening in one of my favorite spots -- but one not normally considered good for winter photography -- Zion NP. This shot is additionally interesting in that there is new green growth already appearing in the trees and brush, something that normally wouldn't happen for at least another month to 6 weeks from now. It was about 70 F out today and we were in our tee shirts. The American West needs some water and cooler weather...

    50 ART, 1/30th @ f8:

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Here is one from the Sigma ART 35 I borrowed from Bob -- nice lens, now on order

    1/125 @ f5.6, "Dragoneye"

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Have a trip to the Valley of Fire and then a few days in Zion next month, you guys have me all jazzed to go! Will be the first serious workout for the D810.

    Hoping my copy of the 17-35 f2.8 is as good as yours, Jack.

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    Re: Fun with the D810

    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post

    Hoping my copy of the 17-35 f2.8 is as good as yours, Jack.
    I am very happy with this copy. I bought it from my good friend Uwe Steinmuller right before he moved back to Germany as he was lightening his move load. By far not the sharpest lens in my stable, but it does a stellar job in those focals and I think a little of Uwe remains with it. Doubtful I will ever sell it
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