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    That little piece of plastic junk

    Lately, I've tried to convince myself that I need a new 50mm, like the big, impressive Sigma or the brand new Nikkor f/1.4 or a Zeiss even. But then, like today, I go out and take some photos with this little piece of plastic that tumbles around at the bottom of my camera bag, and if I'm going to be totally honest with myself..... it's rather good.

    I mean, if there's anything wrong with my photos, it's hardly the fault of this lens. It's sharper than I need it to be, and if I behave nicely, and don't swear while taking photos, even the bokeh looks good.

    So how on earth can I find a good excuse to spend a bunch of moneys on a lens when this noisy little plastic toy performs so well

    S5 with Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 @ f/2.5


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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Yup, the question isn't, "to be or not to be" but "to be and no more".

    This is as simple and good as it can get.


    D300, 50/1.8, f/2.2

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Ah, very nice Vivek.

    Sometimes, I'm tempted to go back 35 years, when all I had was an OM-1 and the 50/1.8. Somehow, that didn't feel like a limitation then. Oh well... dreams, dreams. Good old times never come back, do they?

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Jorgen, I think that even if you taped some old eyeglass lenses together and glued them to the front of a cardboard throwaway camera, your photos would end up looking great. No need to worry yourself about the gear.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Lovely, both of you . . . . perhaps in the good old days the look that girl was giving you might have been different Vivek?


    I remember a friend of mine being really proud of his new Porsche . . . then he realised that all the girls looking at him were thinking:

    "What's that old fool doing in that lovely car"

    You don't need another 50 Jorgen . . . you don't need another anything. . .

    On the other hand . . .

    Just this guy you know

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    It's funny for all the rightful bitching we do over some of the spendy so-called "pro" lenses Canon (especially) and Nikon, etc sell that are, well, nothing but, the el-cheapo glorified-lens-cap "plastic fantastics" from both firms are really rather good. Some of the best bang/buck both firms offer.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Anyone shoot the MF series E 50mm on a digital body. The lens is tiny and am wondering if it is worth having?

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Haven't shot the E, but the MF 50/1.8 AiS early model is amazing - and cheap.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Thank you, Jorgen.

    Yes, indeed you should force yourself from time to time to do exactly that!

    Thank you Jono.

    I shall not expand on what you said. I am glad that the shot made you say all that!


    D300, 50/1.8 AF, f/2.2

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by TRSmith View Post
    Jorgen, I think that even if you taped some old eyeglass lenses together and glued them to the front of a cardboard throwaway camera, your photos would end up looking great. No need to worry yourself about the gear.
    Actually, some of my most memorable photos were taken with a couple of throwaway cameras, on an excursion to Chiang Mai, almost nine years ago. Unfortunately the girl eventually disappeared with another fellow.... and the bulk of the pictures

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    I picked up one of these 50 1.8's recently and I too think it's a pretty decent lens. Seven aperture blades for decent bokeh and sharp too.
    Last edited by clay stewart; 21st May 2012 at 20:45.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Here's an alternative, off topic and very worrying:

    http://www.yupoo.com/photos/zoom?id=...1ee99036493f67
    http://www.yupoo.com/photos/zoom?id=...1e446856bb02f4

    Taken with the new Pentax 55mm f/1.4. Weather sealed lens. Won't fit on my Fuji, but on the very nice Pentax bodies which are weather sealed as well.

    Is the new Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 weather sealed?

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Here's an alternative, off topic and very worrying:

    http://www.yupoo.com/photos/zoom?id=...1ee99036493f67
    http://www.yupoo.com/photos/zoom?id=...1e446856bb02f4

    Taken with the new Pentax 55mm f/1.4. Weather sealed lens. Won't fit on my Fuji, but on the very nice Pentax bodies which are weather sealed as well.

    Is the new Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 weather sealed?
    Not worrying at all. You can also slap these on your very nice Pentax body




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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Now, those are totally off topic, not even close to 50mm

    But of the lenses that I don't own, these do happen to be my favourites. The 55mm (plus the new 15mm and a 135mm) would make the set complete.

    Coming to think of it, those two are probably better than any lens that I do own

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Now, those are totally off topic, not even close to 50mm
    How about 43? That close enough?


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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    The 55 is closer

    I like the 43 for its size and price, but think the focal length is a bit off, and my impression is also that the 31 and 77 (and 70) are better lenses.

    However, should I buy a Pentax, I'd probably buy the 43 as well. If I concentrate hard, I might even be able to take a photo or two with it

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    The 55 is closer

    I like the 43 for its size and price, but think the focal length is a bit off, and my impression is also that the 31 and 77 (and 70) are better lenses.

    However, should I buy a Pentax, I'd probably buy the 43 as well. If I concentrate hard, I might even be able to take a photo or two with it
    The 55 is a bigger and heavier lens. I think the 77 is the best of the bunch, but I've had two different 31s and ended up not keeping either one. I picked up the 43 on a whim and have grown to really like it. I originally got it because the view through the finder has the same magnification as my eyeball outside the finder (though at 65mm effective it isn't "normal" - but neither am I). 43 (iirc)




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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    I've been considering buying a K200D, and with a 43mm, it's a cheap, compact solution for walks around the city, not very different from my old OM-1 with the 50. It uses the same batteries as my S3 and the cards from my D80, so it would be a "no-fuzz" solution.

    Avoiding yet another kind of battery/charger is actually a big deal for me. It's confusing and unpractical to have to deal with lots of different units that all look the same.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    These Vietnam made lenses are absolutely gorgeous!

    Almost want me shoot with a Pentax.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    These Vietnam made lenses are absolutely gorgeous!

    Almost want me shoot with a Pentax.
    sorry to burst your bubble, but those (FA limited) are all made in Japan. The DA limited are assembled in Vietnam.

    Nice try though

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    What a bummer!

    I would swear that the lenses I saw (DA or FA, whatever) did not say, "assembled in" but "made in" Vietnam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    What a bummer!

    I would swear that the lenses I saw (DA or FA, whatever) did not say, "assembled in" but "made in" Vietnam!
    Regular DA lenses are made in Vietnam. But frankly are as good or better build quality than most low/mid end Nikon glass. The DA limited are assembled in Vietnam (presumably with Japanese made guts), made of metal, not plastic, and are *very* nice build quality. The FA limited are fully made in Japan and are gorgeous. The latter two groups, small fast primes that aren't plastic and have a great build aesthetic, are the main reason to shoot Pentax imho.

    We now return you to our regularly scheduled Nikon programming

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    Thanks for the clarification nostatic. Lovely lenses and lovely examples as well.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    These Vietnam made lenses are absolutely gorgeous!

    Almost want me shoot with a Pentax.
    Oh, but they make so many nice things in Vietnam. Yellow Hondas, just to take an example

    E-1 with OM Zuiko 100mm f/2.8 @ f/4


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Oh, but they make so many nice things in Vietnam. Yellow Hondas, just to take an example

    E-1 with OM Zuiko 100mm f/2.8 @ f/4
    I concur. I dated a few of those Hondas. No complaints about build quality or performance.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    The final proof. I need a Pentax (or a Sony, put the Pentax lenses are so compact) or a D700. Fast 50 (or 85 on the D700) with IS or high ISO. This one is from yesterday, nice party, and a great view from the balcony, but since I don't take a tripod to parties (imagine the jokes: no spouse, but a tripod ), it's not sharp

    D80 with 50mm f/1.8 @ f/2, ISO 1250 and 1/25s


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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Jorgen, I know you are devious and wicked.

    Fabulous picture, Jorgen!

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Vivek said it. Fab

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    Jorgen, I love the different lighting colors.

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Well
    Lovely photo Jorgen - looks like an interesting party as well.
    You'd have been best of with the D700 for that I suppose . . . but then there is all the other stuff you do where an A900 would be better, but perhaps you need the Pentax anyway because of those tiny lenses.

    Get 'em all!

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post

    Get 'em all!
    Why didn't I think of that? Where's that bank manager when I need him

    Oh, and thank you all for you kind words

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    The final proof. I need a Pentax (or a Sony, put the Pentax lenses are so compact) or a D700. Fast 50 (or 85 on the D700) with IS or high ISO. This one is from yesterday, nice party, and a great view from the balcony, but since I don't take a tripod to parties (imagine the jokes: no spouse, but a tripod ), it's not sharp

    D80 with 50mm f/1.8 @ f/2, ISO 1250 and 1/25s

    Jordan

    I totally love this image. Reminds me of renaissance paintings showing the joy of life. You have really captured this moment and turned it into something large that life

    Congratulations. This is something really special (God knows what ever that means but I mean it for sure)

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    Thanks Woody, much appreciated

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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    I have a 50/1.8 AiS and a 50/1.8 Series E. The two lenses seem to be the same optical design, with the E lens all plastic barrel where the AiS is metal. My E sample has a jammed aperture, which might or might not be an indication of build quality.
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    Re: That little piece of plastic junk

    I have come across at least 2 (it could actually be 3) E-series 50mm lenses, each with a minor variation in construction (all were cannibalized for their focus mounts to rehouse other lenses).

    There is a coating difference between the AiS (which also exhibits barrel distortion, btw) and the E lens.

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