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    Fun with the Nikon Df

    The Df has a limited following of fellow "Luddites," but it is a distinct enough camera (and sensor) I thought it would be fun to dedicated a thread to it. If the thread dies for lack of interest, so be it

    The following were taken on a recent trip to the California wine country during a tour of the Far Niente caves. These 3 images were all taken handheld with the 17-35/2.8 at f5.6, camera was at ISO 12800 and AWB for all three as well. All were processed in C1 with limited adjustments, mostly just standard processing for cam, although I did do a lite perspective correct tweak to the first and last image. I process my tiffs in PS for web simply because I have a batch process dialed in for it, though could easily do it in C1 too. C&C welcome!

    First image is 17mm and 1/30th sec -- chardonnay barrels:



    Next one is at 28mm and 1/40th sec, Cabernet barrels:



    Last one, 28mm and 1/8th sec:

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    Superb images Jack. You really make the Df shine. 12,800 iso is crazy. I used the Df (along with a D4 and D810) for the Nutcracker ballet. The Df does surprisingly well with action shots, even with one arm tied behind its back (e.g. focus capabilities). Here are a few ballet photos from this past weekend. All shot with either a 70-200mm f2.8 or older 400 f2.8 Af-i lens. Iso ranges from 3200 in the first image to 1600 in the last.







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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Some more handheld low light work, just having fun. A few of our neighbors go way out with house decoration so we drove around to check the regulars out. I'm certain these guys must be retired



    First image is Df with 17-35/2.8 at 17mm -- it's pitch black out except for the lights on the house which allowed me to shoot this at ISO 7000, f5.6 @ 1/80th:




    Next image is Df with 17-35/2.8 at 20mm, enough less light at this one the cam bumped up to ISO 12,800, also f5.6 but @ 1/15th:

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    Have been shooting with the Df almost exclusively these last 7 months , the d800 has been gathering dust, with a variety of lenses both manual and autofocus nikkors, next to other brands.

    Here an example at a wedding reception last month, afs nikkor 35mm f/1.4g @5.6 iso 12800, tiff generated in photoninja where i applied some noise reduction, jpg from LR.

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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    I use the Df for B&W a lot, here are two samples from the kitchen of an one star Michelin restaurant. Nikkor-S Auto 1,4 50mm



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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by Y Sol View Post
    I use the Df for B&W a lot, here are two samples from the kitchen of an one star Michelin restaurant. Nikkor-S Auto 1,4 50mm

    This is superb. Any lighting?

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    Thank you Jorgen! No I didn't set up any lights. For hotel rooms/restaurants I normally use my Dedolights but in this case there was no space for any
    light stands.

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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Great images Ydo -- I love the B&W out of the Df too. I even have a preset "Mono" mode so I see the B&W on the review; though I shoot RAW+Jpeg so I get a full raw file to work with, but a quick-peek B&W that is often good enough as is out of the cam .
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Maybe this is a bit of topic but this is how I use to shoot.
    BTW, I took this shot with the most underrated 16 mp Nikon camera: Coolpix A


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    Why not? It was with a Df after all..

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    _DSC0811 by gungyduo, on Flickr
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    A selfie
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    This shot was for a magazine. (the food was not bad ) Df & 18mm f3,5 Ais


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    koffee & kamera
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by Y Sol View Post
    This shot was for a magazine. (the food was not bad ) Df & 18mm f3,5 Ais
    Nice!

    If you don't mind my asking, where were the lights illuminating the sign and the pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    Nice!

    If you don't mind my asking, where were the lights illuminating the sign and the pictures?

    --Matt

    The light on the photo is a mixture of daylight and ambient light. As far as I remember they'd some halogen spots on the ceiling. I didn't set up any light.
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    Slow day there!!

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    The Df. Yes. Let me tell you a small story that happened with me and my Df.

    To set the scene, here is a snap. With the Df, of course. The place is a fancy hotel
    restaurant..you know one of those places...where the cutlery can be used as a mirror to shave. Where the tea cups are so thin one is afraid to take a sip lest one bites the rim. Yes the governor's favorite eatery.


    The violin and the piano is playing. Couples..a few locals and most from distant lands here to remember the good old days of private local butlers and porters carrying their leather baggage all the way from the rail station on their heads to the sahibs residence..

    Me..I am sitting alone. The couples were generally older than me. There were no singles. So I got busy eating.

    ' Would sir prefer the local or the French wine list '?
    ' water.. non-sparkling, still bottled water '. I said.
    ' Before or after the wine, sir '?

    Anyway, the food had to be eaten with the cutlery provided in the place. I prefer to rip a steak apart with my old teeth than to cut it with a knife and throw in my mouth with a fork. But thats just me. Thats why I travel alone.

    Anyway, dinner was done. I got up. Or rather was helped up. One pulled my chair.

    I got up, my Df to my eye..and walked right into the small artificial fish pond that you see in the image above. Through the small opening..between the pillar and the plant pot.

    People rushed to help me out. A floating jacket was thrown in, just in case of litigation. The Df was soaking wet.

    I was looking like a fool. Embarrassed. Small ( I am small anyway ), but you know what I mean.

    Made my exit very quickly. I could hear hushed voices..some Dutch and some English...

    ' Too much to drink ', I heard a voice. Another said ' I hope he doesn't puke in the
    pond..the poor dear fish '.

    The image posted above was taken with my wet Df.

    Next day, I found they had rearranged the place and closed up the gap with some plants.
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Yikes - I thought this thread was "Fun with the Nikon Df" - this doesn't sound like fun at all!

    Glad you and the Df are OK.
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    To keep the Df thread alive...

    They said this setup had a history. This used to be a dance floor. For the gov's parties.
    The walls are lined with photographs from the bygone era.

    They turned on the HMV. It was a waltz.

    I only know the foxtrot. So I sat this one out.

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    Indeed to keep the spirit of the Df alive, here with a nikkor 28mm f/2 ais

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    One of my favourite cameras with one of my favourite lenses taking a photo of one of my favourite cars. Must qualify for a triple like

    Is the Rolleiflex Hy6 based on the Citroen HY, I wonder
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    i think that Citroen is also nicknamed transl pignose, Citroën H Van - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    anotherone with that 28mm f/2
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by Y Sol View Post
    This shot was for a magazine. (the food was not bad ) Df & 18mm f3,5 Ais

    For a camera that everyone wants but nobody "needs", it is not bad.
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    Df 20/2.8 Ais

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    that's lovely Graham

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    Df 20/2.8 Ais

    Graham

    I'm surprised at how ell the 20mm 2.8 Ais holds up on the Df.

    My results on other FX bodies (D700, D800) was less than satisfactory.

    Query - did Nikon tweak this sensor for vintage glass….?

    Curious minds wanna know….

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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    I do wonder about the AIS lenses and the Df. As mentioned a few times before it seems to be a goldilocks kind of set up. First time out with the 20mm actually since it's CLA.

    I picked up the 20/2.8 a while ago and had it serviced and calibrated as it was pretty old, dry and loose. (By contrast an old 35/1.4 I got was stiff). I don't expect perfection but all of my lenses now have the same smooth balanced focus and my local repair shop did a great job and the optics look like new.

    I shot this handheld and as you can probably imagine I was pretty much shooting with my face into the Lupines to get this perspective. Maybe the 20/2.8 is optimized for close up as that's where I focused and sacrificed the balsamroot field sharpness.
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post

    Query - did Nikon tweak this sensor for vintage glass….?

    Curious minds wanna know….
    If that is the case.... oh no... my wallet is running away, escaping through the back door
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    I don't think it's possible to tweak a sensor for vintage glass... BUT, the pixel-pitch may be larger enough, it doesn't show the older lens' warts so clearly -- and thus they are very complimentary . Remember, the later AIS lenses were very well built and stunningly good on film!
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    Thanks for the input, gents.

    I tried the 20mm f2.8 Ais on myD700 a couple of times…….



    …. and was never quite happy with edge sharpness….

    …maybe I should try a similar close-up perspective?

    Anyhow, good reason to take it out for a spin again.
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    Yes, not just the perspective but also magnification. Most old lenses do better in the closer regions.
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    In a heavy attack of GAS and against the logical choice (Sigma ART or 35/1.8G) I followed my stomach and picked up a 35/1.4G today.
    _DSC0035 by paratom511, on Flickr

    into the light...you can make that lens flare too_DSC0050 by paratom511, on Flickr

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    Tom,

    Congratulations on your decision for the 1.4/35G! Excellent results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    In a heavy attack of GAS and against the logical choice (Sigma ART or 35/1.8G) I followed my stomach and picked up a 35/1.4G today.
    (...)
    No bad choice either. The 35mm f/1.4G is one of my four all time favorite Nikkors ...
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I don't think it's possible to tweak a sensor for vintage glass... BUT, the pixel-pitch may be larger enough, it doesn't show the older lens' warts so clearly -- and thus they are very complimentary . Remember, the later AIS lenses were very well built and stunningly good on film!
    Hi there Jack - what certailnly is the case is that a sensor with thicker cover glass will not play so well with lenses which have a wider angle of incidence (and modern lenses tend to be more telecentric, perhaps for that reason). So the combination of the the larger photosites and a thinner cover glass might help . . . whether on purpose or fortuitiously.

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    Congratulations on the new Camera Tom - I'm really rather jealous!

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    Congratulations on the new Camera Tom - I'm really rather jealous!
    I hear they are still in supply, the Dfs, as a treatment for some GAS symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    I hear they are still in supply, the Dfs, as a treatment for some GAS symptoms.
    Indeed, but it'll only treat the symptoms for a day or so . not the underlying disease

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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    As an aside, I find myself really caring less about perfection with this camera and older lenses. My photographic OCD is satisfied elsewhere (see dantes pit MF digital) so my Df and AIS are purely for the joy of photography. (Ditto my a7s btw)
    Remember: adventure before dementia!

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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

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    Thanks for the input, gents.

    I tried the 20mm f2.8 Ais on myD700 a couple of times…….



    …. and was never quite happy with edge sharpness….

    …maybe I should try a similar close-up perspective?

    Anyhow, good reason to take it out for a spin again.
    Nope - just let it it go and enjoy the shooting and printing experience. We obsess over accuracy and yet our audience typically could care less. We're already well, well beyond the point of good enough. I still have 3mp 20x24in prints on my wall and they are just fine because of what they show vs the pixels.

    Btw - love the image and I could not care a damn whether the tree in the corner is uber sharp or not.
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    Not sure how long the DF will help for my GAS.

    What I do find is that I enjoy using it and find it quite intuitive to use it.
    The DF and 2 or 3 primes is very satisfactory to use for me.
    Some dont care for the analog wheels and use it for the sensor only, but in my case I like both aspects.
    At the Moment my Sony A7II is collecting dust. Not because the DF is better but because it works so good for me.
    But as Jono said, most of the times new tools are great.
    I also still had some (few) very nice lenses like the 105DC from earlier times. So its not a totally new system.
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    _DSC1309 by gungyduo, on Flickr

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    Beauty with Df & Nikkor S 1,4 50mm

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    Y Sol, beautiful image of a beautiful lady!

    Having gone through a reorganisation phase (without confessing to "she who must be obeyed") I've replaced my well used D3s and three zoom lenses with the Df plus the 24 and 35mm f1.4G's. Early days yet as I'm finding my way around but the whole package has become pleasantly small and light The camera itself also seems much sturdier than some online reviewers had made me believe. Despite the lenses being relatively hefty the balance feels good.

    The only slight downer is that I'm finding the viewfinder less bright than that of the D3 (or is it just old age ) and I'm wondering if anyone has tried the X1.2 magnifier on the Df. If so, I'd welcome some opinions.

    So far have only tested the 35mm but I'm really very impressed with it and the fantastic colours this sensor produces.
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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Thank you rdubois!
    Here’s another beauty: Df & Ais Nikkor 1,2 50mm

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    Re: Fun with the Nikon Df

    Very lovely!

    I have this lens from my film days but haven't had a chance to try it yet on the Df but your pictures inspire me to use it soon.

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