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    I'm doomed

    I'll flush my credit card and wallet down the toilet before it's too late.
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    Re: Zeiss Milvus

    That 85mm is insane. Heavier than the Otus, but who cares. Has anybody seen a price for these?

    Edit: $1,799 for the 85mm. Sold!

    35mm is $1,117. That's a bargain

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    New lenses, great! How about some price drops on the ZF.2 line up! I would love the existing 85 Planar or 35/2 distagon.

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    I've been staring at Otus 85/1.4 and now this Still looking at Otus though... But I'd like to see the difference. Tough times
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    I too was looking at the OTUS 85 as the older ZF.2 85 had too much bad characteristics but held off as the
    OTUS is just too big ... not weight but presence.

    So now a new 50 and 85 in 1.4 will keep my 25 F 2 and 135 F 2 for now.

    Just wonderful news. Especially the bit about an easy way to de-click for video.

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    Video types will like them. For stills, there are maybe two that are interesting to me - on the wide end.

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    Look at the b&w portrait of the man taken with the 85mm wide open. I don't expect more than that from a portrait lens.

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    And I thought I was done with MF.

    Time to see my optometrist and ophthalmologist

    One only lives once. I think my wife owes me for that trip i paid for our trip to China...hmmm.

    p.s insane..i mean these lenses.

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    I have to admit I wasn't very interested at 1st - but this is one sexy range of lenses - yummy.

    The 100mm f2 looks like it will fit nicely in my bag.......

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    I was also not really overwhelmed at first look, but you know it takes some time ...

    I find this a stunning lineup of obviously great glass and some are on my wish list, like the 2.8/21, 1.4/50 and 1.4/85.

    I think I will prefer especially the 1.4/85 to the Nikkor 1.4/85G, although this always is praised very high by others, despite the fact that I never was happy with my copy and finally sold it. I am pretty confident that the Zeiss Milvus is much better and WRT AF, especially with this focal length and main usage (portrait) AF is almost not necessary.

    Exciting times ahead!

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    Further examination and reading between the lines reveals only two of these lenses are new designs, the 50 1.4 & 85 1.4. The others are the same as before with new housings. I don't know about the rest of you but I detest the Otus focusing ring and now they've gone and put it on these new bodies.

    ptomsu: I had the 85 1.4G and stupidly sold it as I didn't care for the overly sensitive throw in MF mode and thought I would find something more to my liking. I should have kept it as in looking over some of my old images some of the best were taken with it. The old Zeiss 85 1.4 was too long in the tooth, the Otus too big and heavy (and pricey!) so I thought I was going to have to do without an 85 but along comes Zeiss with the new design. No problem with the price but the darn thing weighs 2.6 lbs (according to the listing on B&H)! I use a tripod for 99% of my landscape images but I still want to be able to street shoot with any lens I own and anything over 2 lbs just wears me out. So I suppose I'm still looking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrew View Post
    Further examination and reading between the lines reveals only two of these lenses are new designs, the 50 1.4 & 85 1.4. The others are the same as before with new housings. I don't know about the rest of you but I detest the Otus focusing ring and now they've gone and put it on these new bodies.

    ptomsu: I had the 85 1.4G and stupidly sold it as I didn't care for the overly sensitive throw in MF mode and thought I would find something more to my liking. I should have kept it as in looking over some of my old images some of the best were taken with it. The old Zeiss 85 1.4 was too long in the tooth, the Otus too big and heavy (and pricey!) so I thought I was going to have to do without an 85 but along comes Zeiss with the new design. No problem with the price but the darn thing weighs 2.6 lbs (according to the listing on B&H)! I use a tripod for 99% of my landscape images but I still want to be able to street shoot with any lens I own and anything over 2 lbs just wears me out. So I suppose I'm still looking...
    Meanwhile I tend to think that my 1.4/85 G copy was just a lemon, as all here and on other forums keep telling me how great this lens is!

    I am actually full with you WRT weight, if a lens is only useable in the studio (more or less) it is not the best lens for me either

    I might give the 1.4/85 G a second try.

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    Re: Zeiss Milvus

    Intriguing... They are Zeiss, they have a sexy build, price is reasonable and... ...they are manual focus. And these days, that's a deal killer for me. The 21 maybe I'd go for if it's stellar, but I have the Sigma ART's in 24, 35 and 50, and have the Nikkor 28 asph and 85/1.4G; heck, I even have the 105 DC which when zeroed is a laser. Oh, and ALL of the aforementioned will AF on my D810.
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    Re: Zeiss Milvus

    I think it's great that Zeiss upgraded the line to the new body style and the 50 and 85 imporoved a great deal. Actually both of those lenses where not the best wide open so it's great they upgraded them. Yea no AF and Zeiss Nikon / canon there never will be because of licensing agreements but these may come down to having a look that folks may like plus it should match each lens in the lineup. So depends on what you are after and even for Sony video shooters these could be very useful to them. I think it's a great upgrade all around and a good thing for Zeiss and end users that want something like this. Even Sony still folks can use either mount where we may not have a certain focal length and prefer manual focus. So across the board this can fit in many folks kits. Of course I'm a lens whore and more the merrier too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Intriguing... They are Zeiss, they have a sexy build, price is reasonable and... ...they are manual focus. And these days, that's a deal killer for me. The 21 maybe I'd go for if it's stellar, but I have the Sigma ART's in 24, 35 and 50, and have the Nikkor 28 asph and 85/1.4G; heck, I even have the 105 DC which when zeroed is a laser. Oh, and ALL of the aforementioned will AF on my D810.
    AF is an issue for me as well - which is why I will only consider the 100mm macro - where AF does not really play a role.

    Ageing eyesight, MF and high pixel density is not a good combo....
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    MF is an issue, but it's a fun issue. For portraits, all logic tells me to buy the Nikkor 85mm f/1.4 or 105mm f/2.0, and I already have the 105mm f/1.8. But this new 85mm seems to be an object of passion, one that I will love to death, even if it's too heavy and I will miss focus frequently when shooting wide open.

    This is one for myself and one for my dreams

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs8uYxTJ530

    And I suppose it's made in Japan as well

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    I'm interested in these lenses. My eyesight is aging too but much of my work is slow and steady on a tripod and I can tweak focus on LV until I get it right, so MF isn't a deal breaker. Like Jack, I also shoot the Art glass. I have the 35 and 50 and recently rented the 24. They're all excellent lenses for sure but I also have a Zeiss Distagon 21 and that's the one I get the most joy from in terms of image rendering. When these become available, I'll go into rental mode and have a go. The specs on the redesigned 50/1.4 and 85/1.4 look like mini Otii...on paper anyway.

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    Great article from Ming Thein about Zeiss and Milvus....

    http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/09/12...e-milvus-line/

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    I asked Zeiss if they're going to continue with Otus line and they answered yes. Which is great news! To me, at least

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    Re: Zeiss Milvus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Intriguing... They are Zeiss, they have a sexy build, price is reasonable and... ...they are manual focus. And these days, that's a deal killer for me. The 21 maybe I'd go for if it's stellar, but I have the Sigma ART's in 24, 35 and 50, and have the Nikkor 28 asph and 85/1.4G; heck, I even have the 105 DC which when zeroed is a laser. Oh, and ALL of the aforementioned will AF on my D810.
    Some of these will fit nicely into my transition to D810, as MF complement to AF lenses. My shooting ranges from landscape stills (MF) to Frisbee freestyle (AF action sports) to social to travel to street. Plenty of room for MF lenses after some consideration. Camera first, then consider which of my old Nikkors to keep. Sigma ART series surely is tempting though.
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    Coming with some decades of SLR background I am confidently using MF lenses also on DSLR - have tried several times. Actually for wide angles MF makes even more sense as long as there is a good or great OVF (like Df, D810, D4s). But even with 85 I am confidently fast and accurate as I am my own AF and can focus anywhere on the screen without needing to make use of any AF point. And then I am fast again.

    Means in cleartext - any of the Milvus lenses would work great for me. Only reason to use AF here is if I am getting lazy
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    Have to admit this looks pretty cool....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    Have to admit this looks pretty cool....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissblad View Post
    Have to admit this looks pretty cool....



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    Sheesh you guys are easy -- a $50 case with some custom foam and you melt like little girls in front of a rock star
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    Was there a $50 case and custom foam in that picture? I didn't notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Sheesh you guys are easy -- a $50 case with some custom foam and you melt like little girls in front of a rock star
    B+H sells this case for $525 and each lens insert is about $25 if the standard do not fit

    Zeiss Transport Case For ZF.2-Mount Lenses With Inlays 1930-445

    Zeiss Inlay for Makro-Planar T 2/100 ZE / ZF.2 Lens 1918-638 B&H

    The Milvus inserts will show up presently?

    ... still a bargain for storage at home ... dust and shock protection ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Sheesh you guys are easy -- a $50 case with some custom foam and you melt like little girls in front of a rock star
    Ah... but this isn't any rock star. It's Elvis Presley, Bruce Springsteen, Leonard Cohen, Paul McCartney, Linda Ronstadt and Miley Cyrus gathered in your personal plastic box auditorium to perform for you and your friends only
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    fyi, the Milvus lineup of lenses are now in stock at B&H

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    I have been thinking about getting a 50/2 ZF.2 for food & lifestyle shoots so this new Milvus lens looks nice, I just ordered it from B&H.
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    Some Milvus vs ZF E/2 vs Otus bench tests.

    http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015...al-bench-tests

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    Re: Zeiss Milvus

    Interesting. The Milvus looks a bit better than the ZE, but in real use it's prolly not going to be enough visible difference to force anybody to change if they already own a ZE.

    OTOH, that Otus MTF is sure impressive!
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    Just a few with this combo. It ain't auto focus fast but it works well enough if you eat your spinach!
















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    Just a few more with the 50








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    Jorge, I'm interested in the 85. Have/are you shooting it? Biggest reason is size and it uses 77mm filters (very important). The 85 Otus would definitely be a contender but it's just too damn big!
    BTW, your old 55 is still delivering the bacon!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrew View Post
    Jorge, I'm interested in the 85. Have/are you shooting it? Biggest reason is size and it uses 77mm filters (very important). The 85 Otus would definitely be a contender but it's just too damn big!
    BTW, your old 55 is still delivering the bacon!!!
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    John glad the old Otus is still working out for you. It is amazing ! The 85 is big. Lighter than the Otus 85. Indeed it is a 77mm thread on it. I out down some details of what I think about the 85 here Zeiss Milvus 85mm and Sony A7RII

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    Re: Zeiss Milvus

    The 50mm looks impressive, and is something to consider as a replacement for my Nikkor 50mm f/1.2. First, I need a decent 85mm though. Zeiss seems to have an answer to that as well

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    The 50mm looks impressive, and is something to consider as a replacement for my Nikkor 50mm f/1.2. First, I need a decent 85mm though. Zeiss seems to have an answer to that as well
    I have both the 1.2 and the new milvus 1.4. There is no question the Milvus is exponentially better than the nikon in both build and optical quality. But the 1.2 is exponentially better to work with due to focus. The 1.2 is really a great street lens with the ability to focus between min distance and infinity relatively fast with little effort. The Milvus requires a lot of rotation of the barrel to go from one extreme to the other. Having said that, its hard tpo beat the milvus rendering! Maybe the Otus.

    Here are a few with a D4 and A7RII and the 50 1.4

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    Re: Zeiss Milvus

    Hello,

    just an example of Milvus 1,4/85mm on Sony A7R. Picture was shot in portrait mode - but on screen I decided to cut. Enough pixels



    I'm really happy with the lens!

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