I think you're missing my point Jorgen, while you praise their seamless integration with all older lenses it's far from seamless in my book, no matter what type of excuses you're trying to dream up. Many Nikon users happily using these older lenses will feel left in the cold. I understand why Nikon is doing this, but just don't call it seamless when it isn't.
We'll see about the rest of your post, everybody is entitled to their own speculative thoughts. Only time will tell :angel:
My opinion is that Canon and Nikon bringing out mirrorless FF's is a good thing for all users, more choice and more competition (on both capabilities and price) and I don't think any of these three will go under. And if one of them does so be it, we will still have the choice of two other FF-mirrorless cameras (if that's what we want).
If Sony would have gone bottoms up 2 or 3 years ago we would have had none :scry:
No need to be disappointed. The typical "advanced amateur" uses a DSLR camera and will continue to do so for years to come. The first 6 months of 2018, 70% more DSLR bodies were sold than mirrorless bodies, and these two Nikon cameras won't change that much. I have friends who consider themselves photo enthusiasts (and they are), who are very happy with their Nikon D90 or Canon 50D cameras. When and if they upgrade, some time around 2025 or 30 probably, it might as well be to another DSLR. They don't know that Sony makes mirrorless cameras and they won't find out that Nikon makes them for many years. Mirrorless cameras are bought by young people who think that Canon Rebels look boring and by technology addicts of the kind you find on forums like this.
Many consumers start to become tired of the constant flow of new technology. Many of my friends who needed a new laptop the last year have bought the ageing MacBook Air. None has bought that MacBook with a single hole in the side. Those I have asked tell me that they can't see the point with a computer that can't connect to all their old disks and scanners and stuff (and I agree). Many are of the same opinion when it comes to electronic viewfinders and memory cards with weird names. Try asking people you meet on the street what an XQD card is. Or rolling shutter. Or buffer size. A joystick is something on the children's Nintendo game thing.
These two new Nikon cameras are conservative pieces of machinery although they look forward. Many blame Nikon for that, but I think that was a correct decission by Nikon. They went all out where it counts, like the lens mount. Now they can sit back, see what happens and develop an even higher end mirrorless (the Z9?), and they can let Fuji, Olympus etc. fight over the low end, low margin part of the mirrorless market which must be less than 10%, or maybe 15% of the total ILC market. Because low end is still Rebel territory.
