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    Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    I started a new thread for this lens such that Z7 owners can also post their photos and impressions

    My original post from the Z6 thread is at https://www.getdpi.com/forum/nikon/6...tml#post785387

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions



    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 34mm, 1/160, f/8, ISO 100, +1 EC, Nikon CP

    Auto Distortion Control ON in Capture NX-D, manual vignetting correction +30 in Lightroom 6.
    No cropping.

    The customizable control ring defaults to aperture control. Personally I find it a bit difficult to access (too close to the mount), and too easy to rotate by accident (no clicks when rotating).
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    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/400, f/2.8, ISO 100

    Auto Distortion Control ON in Capture NX-D, manual vignetting correction +30 in Lightroom 6.
    No cropping.
    Last edited by Darin Marcus; 14th April 2019 at 04:31. Reason: Wrong focal length.
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    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 32mm, 1/200, f/8, ISO 100
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    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 49mm, 1/160, f/2.8, ISO 200
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Hi Darin, thanks for sharing these pictures. A quick question: obviously the 2.8 version gives you more flexibility for less light and/or less dof, but do you see a lot of difference in rendering between both 24-70 lenses at f5.6 or f8? Sharpness, bokeh, micro-contrast etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    A quick question: obviously the 2.8 version gives you more flexibility for less light and/or less dof, but do you see a lot of difference in rendering between both 24-70 lenses at f5.6 or f8? Sharpness, bokeh, micro-contrast etc.
    It is a bit too early to tell. So far I focused mostly on testing the lens for issues, and on how well it works at f/2.8 In the next couple of weeks I will try to get some pictures that will allow an apples-to-apples comparison with the f/4 (which I no longer have). But from what I have seen so far, it does seem to have a bit more resolution/sharpness, and less distortion and vignetting than the f/4.
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Nice shots, especially Great Falls of the Potomac. Always wanted to get out there in my Kayaking days, not to run but to watch.

    I have for now decided to keep using my 24-70 VRII lens, since the S lens and this lens are so close in weight and size. The Z with that lens is not a bad solution, just have to have the adapter. Plus I still use the D850 about 1/2 the time, so the S lens would be a tough call for now, especially since the 24-70 VRII is so good.

    Had hoped Nikon would have a bit lower price on the new S lens but it's priced in the same range as the other.

    Looks like a great lens for sure.

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    I am confident that the Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 is a fine lens, though I'm not sure that should come as any surprise. What would you expect from Nikon for $2300?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    Nice shots, especially Great Falls of the Potomac. Always wanted to get out there in my Kayaking days, not to run but to watch.
    Thank you Paul.
    The Great Falls photo is from the Maryland side, which is nicer, in my opinion

    I've just posted a J5 photo from 2016 in the PAW thread that you might find interesting... https://www.getdpi.com/forum/artful-...tml#post785603

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    I have for now decided to keep using my 24-70 VRII lens, since the S lens and this lens are so close in weight and size. The Z with that lens is not a bad solution, just have to have the adapter. Plus I still use the D850 about 1/2 the time, so the S lens would be a tough call for now, especially since the 24-70 VRII is so good.

    Had hoped Nikon would have a bit lower price on the new S lens but it's priced in the same range as the other.

    Looks like a great lens for sure.

    Paul C
    The decision is indeed harder if you already have an F mount 24-70.
    I've never owned one, and the f/2.8 Z definitely has some advantages over the f/4 for me, so it was simpler in my case

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    One more from Great Falls, on the Maryland side:



    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 32mm, 1/100, f/8, ISO 100
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Hmmm, even for this lens, when Nikon's Auto Distortion Control (Capture NX-D) is applied, a little bit is cropped from the margins of the image...
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    The same photo as above, processed in the same way except for turning off Auto Distortion Control in Capture NX-D:



    To see the difference open each photo in its own tab, and switch rapidly between the two tabs.

    To my non-expert eyes, there is not much actual distortion correction going on at 32mm f/8, but more of a zoom-in effect in which the margins are cropped and then the photo is enlarged back to 24 MP.
    Not sure what is their reason for this...
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Southwest Harbor, Maine, fog
    Z7 / Z 24-70 f/2.8

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Darin Marcus View Post
    To my non-expert eyes, there is not much actual distortion correction going on at 32mm f/8, but more of a zoom-in effect in which the margins are cropped and then the photo is enlarged back to 24 MP.
    Not sure what is their reason for this...
    Looks like there's just a little bit of pincushion distortion, and if corrected the edges would end up rounded outwards (barreled) if they weren't cropped at the original image boundaries.
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    Looks like there's just a little bit of pincushion distortion, and if corrected the edges would end up rounded outwards (barreled) if they weren't cropped at the original image boundaries.
    Thank you Jan.

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    On a different note, it looks like an excellent lens! Thanks for posting photos.
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Getting closer...



    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/250, f/2.8, ISO 100
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Hi Darin, thanks for sharing these pictures. A quick question: obviously the 2.8 version gives you more flexibility for less light and/or less dof, but do you see a lot of difference in rendering between both 24-70 lenses at f5.6 or f8? Sharpness, bokeh, micro-contrast etc.
    Sharper (especially in the corners), better micro-contrast, better bokeh, less distortion.... but not enough optical improvements to justify the large price increase.
    However, the price increase also covers f/2.8, non-collapsible lens, better build, extra control ring, faster AF and a few other small improvements.
    It may not be enough for some to justify this purchase (also taking into consideration the increased size, weight and filter diameter), but _personally_ I am very happy I upgraded.
    Now give me that updated firmware...



    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 56mm, 1/250, f/4, ISO 100

    Auto Distortion Control set to ON in Capture NX-D.
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    red lobster boat, fog
    sent the 24-70 on its merry way back to the folks at Lensrentals but 'tis a very nice lens for Z shooters

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Fun at f/2.8:



    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/400, f/2.8, ISO 100

    Auto Distortion Control set to ON in Capture NX-D, but Vignette Control set to OFF.

    Here is the link to a 1:1 crop of the interesting part, with default capture sharpening in Capture NX-D, but no output sharpening: http://mcauig.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mX...C0598-crop.jpg

    The Z6 was set to Wide Area (small) AF for Closest Subject Priority focus.
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Two days ago at the Revolutionary War Weekend 2019 event, Mount Vernon, Virginia:



    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/1000, f/2.8, ISO 200

    A 1:1 crop from the above:

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    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/640, f/2.8, ISO 100
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    PhotographyLife's preliminary review: https://photographylife.com/nikon-z-...-s-performance

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Yes it certainly looks spectacular indeed! What an achievement! But I will unfortunately have to carefully avoid it because of size, weight and..lack of money..
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    OOF transition at f/5.6:



    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/400, f/5.6, ISO 100
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    the above picture is beautiful, but the picture down below gives a sort full show of the out of focus drawing-quality which in my mind simply is outstanding, delicate, extremely calm and delicious "soft", in my view it will be hard for any lens at all to
    challenge this - at the same time the sharpness is impressive, which the revolution-lady at 100% proves, and the white flower-drawing (gentle sharpness) leads the thoughts onto the best way a leica-lens can draw


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    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/640, f/2.8, ISO 100
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Thom Hogan's review is now available: http://www.sansmirror.com/lenses/len...28-s-lens.html
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    Photography Life has finally completed their review: https://photographylife.com/reviews/...24-70mm-f2-8-s




    Nikon Z6, Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S @ 70mm, 1/25, f/2.8, ISO 100, VR On
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    I picked up one of these and a Z6 relatively recently and have been enjoying it. It's been a great all purpose setup. Will try and post some pics if I get around to it this weekend!

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    Thinking of buying the 2.8 Zoom at some point, maybe selling the d810 .... nice camera, but honestly, I hardly use it anymore since the Z7 arrived. I tried the f2.8 Zoom today in a store and it is less bulky than I thought. Undecided yet, as I have still f1.8 lenses for low light. Maybe it is more want than need ..., but it is somewhat cool to have one lens which can do really a lot and has stellar image quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photon42 View Post
    but it is somewhat cool to have one lens which can do really a lot and has stellar image quality.
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    Posted this already in another Nikon thread but found it would fir also in here.

    I ordered a Nikkor S 2.8/24-70 together with the Nikon Z7 last week, as we have some great discounts going on here in Austria. I could not be more happy

    Camera and lens should arrive in the next weeks.

    Figured out from tons of Youtube videos and reviews that the 2.8/24-70 S is one of the best if not the best available today for mirrorless cameras.

    Looking forward to this combo and being back in FF territory again after so many years exclusively shooting m43 Olympus. I will keep my Olympus gear as prices for used m43 gear are pretty much down in these times and also for when I really need long reach with minimal weight.

    I am sure I will really enjoy to be back in Nikon FF land and will keep you updated on my journey ....

    I am planning to add some of the really excellent 1.8 S prime lenses later as well as the 100-400 that should arrive till 2021

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    The 24-70/2.8 S is for certain stellar and you cannot go wrong with it! But the f4 version is no slouch either. In a perfect world where I had the funds, I would own both simply for the size and weight savings of the f4 lens and still excellent performance. In my own personal case and for my own budget, I opted for choosing the 14-30/4, 50/1.8 and 24-70/4 (24-70/4 was bundled with the Z7 at a very attractive kit price) instead of just the 24-70/2.8 for about the same total cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    The 24-70/2.8 S is for certain stellar and you cannot go wrong with it! But the f4 version is no slouch either. In a perfect world where I had the funds, I would own both simply for the size and weight savings of the f4 lens and still excellent performance. In my own personal case and for my own budget, I opted for choosing the 14-30/4, 50/1.8 and 24-70/4 (24-70/4 was bundled with the Z7 at a very attractive kit price) instead of just the 24-70/2.8 for about the same total cost.
    Jack,

    I hear you! I was long thinking if I should go with the F2.8 or F4 version of the 24-70. Price wise the F4 version would have been similar in IQ but much cheaper. Maybe enough (and even better ) for many of my shootings.

    I decided for the F2.8 version as I hope this will be the last 24-70 lens I buy for a long time (if not forever). I kind of decided to go forward with Nikon Z mount and I will only very slowly build up that system - with much thought and not much money (unfortunately). Anyway I am confident I did the right choice for many years to come.

    The 4/14-30 is on my list as WA zoom as well as the 100-400 as soon as it arrives (maybe next year). Adding one or two 1.8 primes (50 and 35 or 85) and maybe the 105 Micro and I would be set for all I need. And if I win in lottery maybe the 1.2/50 - or if I sell some of my Leica M mount lenses, which I definitely will try out on the Z7 and then decide if and what I keep.

    Here you have it, I am anyway really excited to work with FF again and as I am sure with one of the best (if not the best) FF mirrorless systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    The 4/14-30 is on my list as WA zoom as well as the 100-400 as soon as it arrives (maybe next year). Adding one or two 1.8 primes (50 and 35 or 85) and maybe the 105 Micro and I would be set for all I need. And if I win in lottery maybe the 1.2/50 - or if I sell some of my Leica M mount lenses, which I definitely will try out on the Z7 and then decide if and what I keep.
    A couple of thoughts on adding 1.8 lenses going forward. The 50 is a stunner -- according to DXO even sharper than the Zeiss Outus. I can concur it is the sharpest lens I've ever owned, period -- and yet to my eyes it still renders as nicely as Leica Pre-Asph Lux. (That said, I hardly use it unless I have a specific need for the aperture because the 24-70 is so darn good and already on the camera!) The 35 is also stellar, but not up to the 50 -- and in fact your 24-70 is for all intents as good as the 35 prime, so all you'll be gaining is the extra aperture. The 85 is pretty much like the 50, simply stellar and un-equalled, again even by the Zeiss Outus as re sharpness; but once again, your 24-70 at 70 is going to be very close in performance, albeit 15mm shorter and loss of the 1-⅓ stop. The 85 is on my short list, probably my next acquisiition, but I may opt for the 105 macro when it's released instead... The 14-30 is quite good for the range it covers and frankly better than any other 14-24 zooms I've used, so for my needs it's more than adequate but not really up to the 24-70 or primes, just FWIW...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    A couple of thoughts on adding 1.8 lenses going forward. The 50 is a stunner -- according to DXO even sharper than the Zeiss Outus. I can concur it is the sharpest lens I've ever owned, period -- and yet to my eyes it still renders as nicely as Leica Pre-Asph Lux. (That said, I hardly use it unless I have a specific need for the aperture because the 24-70 is so darn good and already on the camera!) The 35 is also stellar, but not up to the 50 -- and in fact your 24-70 is for all intents as good as the 35 prime, so all you'll be gaining is the extra aperture. The 85 is pretty much like the 50, simply stellar and un-equalled, again even by the Zeiss Outus as re sharpness; but once again, your 24-70 at 70 is going to be very close in performance, albeit 15mm shorter and loss of the 1-⅓ stop. The 85 is on my short list, probably my next acquisiition, but I may opt for the 105 macro when it's released instead... The 14-30 is quite good for the range it covers and frankly better than any other 14-24 zooms I've used, so for my needs it's more than adequate but not really up to the 24-70 or primes, just FWIW...
    Thanks so much for this input/update, then I will also move 14-30 and 85 (or 105) next

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Posted this already in another Nikon thread but found it would fir also in here.

    I ordered a Nikkor S 2.8/24-70 together with the Nikon Z7 last week, as we have some great discounts going on here in Austria. I could not be more happy

    Camera and lens should arrive in the next weeks.

    Figured out from tons of Youtube videos and reviews that the 2.8/24-70 S is one of the best if not the best available today for mirrorless cameras.

    Looking forward to this combo and being back in FF territory again after so many years exclusively shooting m43 Olympus. I will keep my Olympus gear as prices for used m43 gear are pretty much down in these times and also for when I really need long reach with minimal weight.

    I am sure I will really enjoy to be back in Nikon FF land and will keep you updated on my journey ....

    I am planning to add some of the really excellent 1.8 S prime lenses later as well as the 100-400 that should arrive till 2021
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    -- and in fact your 24-70 is for all intents as good as the 35 prime, so all you'll be gaining is the extra aperture....

    Indeed, the 2.8 basically only wins a stop. I am seriously contemplating getting it just for that reason.

    Too many excellent lenses. I already have most of the 1.8 lenses and I fear the day the 1.2 series will be available
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    I'll take a long hard look at the 50 S f/1.2 when it comes to market, but I do wonder - given that I already own the 85 S f/1.8 and love it - if I'd actually gain anything other than aching muscles. The point is the 50 S only interests me for its wide open characteristics and what would I gain, if anything, over using the 85 S? The perspective would differ of course - this could actually be advantage to the 85 - but the DOF would be similar. Perhaps the out of focus highlights on the 50 would remain more circular on the 50 but I won't be holding my breath over that. Really, what would I gain for the extra 2000-2500?

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithL View Post
    I'll take a long hard look at the 50 S f/1.2 when it comes to market, but I do wonder - given that I already own the 85 S f/1.8 and love it - if I'd actually gain anything other than aching muscles. The point is the 50 S only interests me for its wide open characteristics and what would I gain, if anything, over using the 85 S? The perspective would differ of course - this could actually be advantage to the 85 - but the DOF would be similar. Perhaps the out of focus highlights on the 50 would remain more circular on the 50 but I won't be holding my breath over that. Really, what would I gain for the extra 2000-2500?

    Sure the 85 vs 50. I already own the 50/1.8 which is already so good that it is hard to believe if you haven't got it. It makes me really wonder what the 1.2 will be... kind of impossible to believe they can make that one even better.

    Sure you need to work out for the 1.2. It also kind of looses one of the things I really like about the Z series, eg. relatively small, light and fantastic quality.

    But than again.... 1.2? Could it be better than the 1.8?.. the thought does make me drool a little.

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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbak View Post
    Sure the 85 vs 50. I already own the 50/1.8 which is already so good that it is hard to believe if you haven't got it. It makes me really wonder what the 1.2 will be... kind of impossible to believe they can make that one even better.

    Sure you need to work out for the 1.2. It also kind of looses one of the things I really like about the Z series, eg. relatively small, light and fantastic quality.

    But than again.... 1.2? Could it be better than the 1.8?.. the thought does make me drool a little.
    Yes, I also love my 50 S f/1.8.

    It will be interesting to see a comparison between the 85 S f/1.8 and the 50 S f/1.2 when they are both shot wide open, but that 50 f/1.2 would need to offer something very different in terms of bokeh to lead me into temptation.
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    Re: Nikkor Z 24-70mm f/2.8 S Photos and Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbak View Post
    Indeed, the 2.8 basically only wins a stop. I am seriously contemplating getting it just for that reason.

    Too many excellent lenses. I already have most of the 1.8 lenses and I fear the day the 1.2 series will be available
    to my eyes its more than the step up from f4 to the light from f2.8, its more that, from the pictures I have seen so far, it renders more beautiful, in a exquisite soft-sharp way, lower and more refined and delicate contrasts,
    and the out of focus areas are just so delicious and dreamy ..
    I would like to own it, but can't afford for the time being.
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