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    CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    Just a heads-up to my fellow Nikon shooters. C1 has released a dedicated Nikon copy of their latest C1 20.1. Basic subscription is $99/yr as compared to double that for the full version. The biggest enhancement to the latest 20.1 version is they now have ICC profiles to mimic most of Nikon's latest cameras "pre-baked" jpeg styles from your raws -- you select these from the "Base Characteristics" menu. If you're not familiar with C1 UI, you can hover your pointer over a profile and C1 previews it for you without your actually having to apply it. Of course it does the same for any user or canned presets, just a nifty convenience when you're processing for ultimate look to your file.

    I'll be posting a few sample images wanting feedback on my own film preset creations -- stay tuned!
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    Re: CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    Feedback appreciated. Here are 3 user presets I've set up for my Z7. The differences are more prominent in the full sized tiff as jpeg trims some of the character, bu I think it still gets the point across.

    First, just the basic C1 conversion using their Nikon Z7 generic profile (Note this image was shot in very flat light):



    Next is my Film Color preset added to the above basic processing:



    Now a "normal" contrast B&W preset added to image 1:



    Finally, my High Contrast B&W preset added to image 1:



    My initial thinking is I like the color film pretty much as is, and I like the NC B&W pretty well as is, but think I need to pull down both the blacks and whites a little bit more in the HC B&W, but will wait on feedback...
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    Playing with split-toning -- light sepia shadows, light selenium highlights:

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    Re: CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    I am amazed that Capture One/Phase One would release a "pro" version for Nikon currently with their considerable lack of long lens profiles. It's amazing actually that they have none of the main primes 300mm, 400mm and 500mm, nothing for the main long zooms 200-500mm, 200-400mm and 80-400, In fact I can't find any profile for anything in the 400mm range.

    This has been the case for years, and with this new Pro version for Nikon I am stunned they still have not stepped up to the plate and taken care of this.

    Huge gap IMO, and I can't understand why they can't get support for the longer glass out there.

    I assume that the dedicated Nikon version doesn't have the any different profiles than the latest C1 20 Pro version that just came out.

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    Re: CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    Paul,

    What type of correction do you need for a Nikon 300 or 500 PF, 300 or 400/2.8 or the 600 f4? My understanding is they didn't feel longer lenses needed much if any correction. The profiles are mainly to correct for distortion as C1 already has outstanding software CA, diffraction and fringing corrections, so mainly offered distortion profiles for most all wide zooms and primes with focals under 60mm.
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    Re: CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    Hi Jack,

    I would like to see light fall off corrections. I shoot a ton of long distance pano's with the 200-500 or 80-400, @ 200 to 400mm. F 7.1 to F8. What I see in C1 is quite a bit of light fall off, that is normally corrected by Phase One Capture One lens profiles. When you attempt to merge the images, the vignetting, even when corrected if on a pure blue sky, tends to mess with the pano engine and thus cause dark areas, as the tool can't get a good blend.

    LR, has a great correction for this in their profiles, I just prefer to use C1 for most of my work due to the tools and how they are laid out.

    Only solution I guess is shoot a LCC for each setting, 80mm, 100mm, etc. and try to hit that in the field in the future, as C1 's LCC would also take care of it. I guess I can also do that here at home, no need to travel.

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    Re: CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    Well, they do have a vignette control slider, but IDK how accurate it is to a specific lens' falloff. If I were merging tele shots for pano, I would shoot one good LCC frame and keep it handy to apply to all shots with that lens at that aperture -- since there is no shift or tilt involved, one good LCC for each aperture you regularly use would be all you'd ever need, and applying it to the specific images would perfectly correct the falloff.
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    Re: CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Just a heads-up to my fellow Nikon shooters. C1 has released a dedicated Nikon copy of their latest C1 20.1. Basic subscription is $99/yr as compared to double that for the full version. The biggest enhancement to the latest 20.1 version is they now have ICC profiles to mimic most of Nikon's latest cameras "pre-baked" jpeg styles from your raws -- you select these from the "Base Characteristics" menu. If you're not familiar with C1 UI, you can hover your pointer over a profile and C1 previews it for you without your actually having to apply it. Of course it does the same for any user or canned presets, just a nifty convenience when you're processing for ultimate look to your file.

    I'll be posting a few sample images wanting feedback on my own film preset creations -- stay tuned!

    Good news for Nikon users like myself, in the sense that Nikon is a company that has never understood the value of software. That is particularly sensitive now that all cameras are, basically, "image taking" computers.
    Capture One is pretty good, but it has, to my eyes, 3 some issues:

    1. They are pretty traditional. (now they are touring, finally, a healing tool that is a smart cloning tool so it messes up lines that should be easy to fix with a modern approach)

    2. The value proposition is complicated:  From adobe the Photo Plan includes Photoshop, Lightroom, Lightroom Mobile, Lightroom Classic and 20GB of cloud storage for just. 10$ a month. We also have the 20$ option that includes. Lightroom, Lightroom Mobile Plus, portafolio tools plus 1TB of cloud storage. Notice that one can use Lightroom and Photoshop with allmost all the brands.
    On the other hand from Capture One: 10$ /m for just one camera. (Nikon in our case) with no extra value (the SmugMug is a trial) or $20/m with no extra value to be able to use any camera, and one have to buy Photoshop or Affiniy or something.

    3. It's slower than Lightroom. Something beeing slower that Adobe is quite a remacable achivement

    4. This one is minor, and I don't know if it's important for the new version: It used to crush the blacks.


    Positives:

    1. Phase One is working with Nikon directly, the amount of time one can save tunning the image could be enough to justify the price/value proposition, and it's good news for Nikon users: We have an officially supported software that it's not crap for the first time in 20 years.

    2. Capture One has the more flexible and powerful thetering tools ever. ( Hasseblad is easear to use and pretty good, but more limited)

    3. Capture One has the best cataloging tools in the market.

    4. The free version: one can use it to convert the files and then load them into other software you may be paying for.

    5. The progress of Capture One is Key now that we don't have clear, mature alternatives to Lightroom.

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    Re: CaptureOne 20 update, now available for Nikon stand alone

    Quote Originally Posted by jduncan View Post
    The progress of Capture One is Key now that we don't have clear, mature alternatives to Lightroom.
    Has anyone tried DxO PhotoLab ? No good for me since it doesn't support P1 (plus I'm too old and world weary to learn yet another piece of software), but I hear good things about it for smaller formats.

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