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Even More Fun Pictures with Nikon
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Jorgen Udvang
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Wow... thanks guys. Glad that you liked them.
Here's another one. This is one of those moments when a 200mm f/2.0 would have made the photo better, with the people in the background a little bit more OOF... if that lens had been on my camera. In this case, I didn't even have time to stop down to f/2.8, so I probably shouldn't think about it. I still like the concept though, so I post it anyway.
S5 with 80-200 AF-S @ 200mm and f/3.2
Here's another one. This is one of those moments when a 200mm f/2.0 would have made the photo better, with the people in the background a little bit more OOF... if that lens had been on my camera. In this case, I didn't even have time to stop down to f/2.8, so I probably shouldn't think about it. I still like the concept though, so I post it anyway.
S5 with 80-200 AF-S @ 200mm and f/3.2
Jorgen Udvang
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Cool Harley photo, Mark, but where's the photographer?
Lloyd, I like the second photo of your wife. For the first one, I have a question, a long one:
When I see portraits that are technically good, like this one, but taken slightly from above, I get an uneasy feeling. Partly, it looks uncomfortable for the model, who has to look up, secondly, the amount of hair tends to exceed the amount of face in the photo and lastly, but most important to me, (possibly because I live in a country where the level of one's head compared to others in the room is a deciding factor with regards to status and respect) is that you place yourself above the model.
When the angle contributes to the artistic qualities of the photos, it's a totally different matter, but in most cases, I can't see that it does. Is it me that is totally off here, or do I have a point?
Lloyd, I like the second photo of your wife. For the first one, I have a question, a long one:
When I see portraits that are technically good, like this one, but taken slightly from above, I get an uneasy feeling. Partly, it looks uncomfortable for the model, who has to look up, secondly, the amount of hair tends to exceed the amount of face in the photo and lastly, but most important to me, (possibly because I live in a country where the level of one's head compared to others in the room is a deciding factor with regards to status and respect) is that you place yourself above the model.
When the angle contributes to the artistic qualities of the photos, it's a totally different matter, but in most cases, I can't see that it does. Is it me that is totally off here, or do I have a point?
Jorgen Udvang
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I was running out of memory cards and had to take jpegs (the Fuji RAWs are 30MB each), and lighting was beyond horrible, so WB is a bit off sometimes.
S5 with Tamron 17-50 @ 50mm and f/2.8
S5 with Tamron 17-50 @ 50mm and f/2.8
Lloyd
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Hi Jorgen, thanks for the input and the question. I think you have a point, but the perception of course varies depending on lots of factors, and the cultural ones certainly can't be discounted... the eyes of the beholder do matter.
I've used that perspective for portraits for years, and mostly for female subjects. I honestly hadn't considered the status or respect aspect, my main objective being to emphasis their eyes, which that angle has a tendency to do. I also hadn't thought about the hair overshadowing the face, but that could be true, (and could be used intentionally when the hair is the real subject). Interesting thoughts, and I appreciate your pointing these out. It will certainly have me thinking when I'm posing subjects.
Here's a shot of our Rachel from that angle... the intent here was to bring out her eyes (which everyone comments on anyway) The fact is here she was giving me "the evil eye".
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Lloyd
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Thanks Mark. And this is a stunner.Jorgen....Rich,Colorful Images! Excellent!
Lloyd...Thank You! The shot's of your Wife are So Nice! What an Athlete!
D300, 24-70
Jorgen Udvang
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I agree that it emphasis the eyes, and sometimes, like in the portrait of Rachel here, it does work. The relationship between photographer/viewer and subject is an interesting theme btw. Since there will mostly be many more viewers than photographers (of which there is only one per photo anyway... easy to count), I mostly try to imagine myself in the position of the viewer when I take photos, at the same time asking myself: what is my (the viewer's) relationship to the subject. That's a tricky question sometimes, and I could go on answering that for hours, days and weeks, possibly disagreeing with myself a number of times on the way
Jorgen Udvang
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Ah... now I see you
It's easier to figure out when looking at the reflection in the tank.m_driscoll
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Shtarka1: Thanks for the comments. Have fun with the M9. My dealer didn't get any in last week. Maybe next week. Look forward to seeing your work with it.
Jorgen: Wonderful photos. I especially like "Migawa". I agree with your comment on the photo of the boy and the background. I like the way almost everybody's looking in the opposite direction from the way the boy's going. If you're not a purist, you could always photoshop the OOF in.
Lloyd: Thanks. Nice portraits. Lighting and color seems perfect.
Jorgen/Lloyd: Interesting discussion. Thanks.
Cheers,
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Jorgen: Wonderful photos. I especially like "Migawa". I agree with your comment on the photo of the boy and the background. I like the way almost everybody's looking in the opposite direction from the way the boy's going. If you're not a purist, you could always photoshop the OOF in.
Lloyd: Thanks. Nice portraits. Lighting and color seems perfect.
Jorgen/Lloyd: Interesting discussion. Thanks.
Cheers,
http://mdriscoll.zenfolio.com
Lloyd
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I do that as well, most of the time, or when I think it matters. However, for much of what I post here, I'm just messing around, trying new things, or looking for people's reactions to those ideas, so I think less in advance about the reaction of the viewer(s). I think about it more if I'm shooting something for someone else, or attempting to convey a particular message. And like you, I've driven my self crazy in so doing, and changed my position on the subject numerous times. If I'm not (shooting for someone else, or attempting to say something in particular), I just do what I like, and the viewers can agree or disagree as they please.I mostly try to imagine myself in the position of the viewer when I take photos, at the same time asking myself: what is my (the viewer's) relationship to the subject. That's a tricky question sometimes, and I could go on answering that for hours, days and weeks, possibly disagreeing with myself a number of times on the way
Jorgen Udvang
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Saturday was kite and balloon day. Kites first
D80 with 80-200 AF-S @ 80mm and f/5.0
D80 with 80-200 AF-S @ 80mm and f/5.0
Corlan F.
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Now this is an instant classic. Part Alex Webb, part HCB... :thumbs:Race Point Beach, Provincetown, Ma
D300, Sigma 50
Jorgen Udvang
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Great photo, and again, your processing makes this into pure joy :thumbs:Race Point Beach, Provincetown, Ma
D300, Sigma 50
Corlan F.
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See what you mean with the 200mm f2 (the one and only lens i keep dreaming about), and not sure the PP can give this unique feel of focal separation... otoh it's so bulky that you'd probably have missed the shot
Seriously, one probably has to somehow modify his approach to candids, sometimes more letting things happening from a -relatively- static point of origin, and less "chasing" for the subject.
Btw, have to second the gang here... the Carnival shots are wonderful both in color and compositions.
Corlan F.
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Like the bear shots very much, Matt, they're very tri-dimensionnal.
(technical note -and interrogation- the first time i looked at them it was on IE8 the second time today on Firefox. For some reason the 3D effect is much more dramatic with the latter... doesn't seem related to color profiling (IE not compliant)... go figure)
viablex1
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nice what type of strobes? damn this site is killing me I just bought a chamonix and now I want portable studio lighting...damn...Fiddling around with my studio strobes last night, working on some concepts for my wife's cycling/triathlon team's website. This isn't one of the concept shots, I was just getting the strobes dialed in. Here my ever-patient, live-in model is standing in front of an OctoDome, and is lit by a Mola beauty dish.
D3; 85/1.4 @ f11, 1/250, ISO 200:
