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    DP Merrill accessories

    I just acquired the DP 1, 2 and 3 Merrills. Huh... they are really cheap now. 360,- Euro pcs. Somebody here who remembers how much Foveon cameras costed when launched?

    I hope someone would give me an advice what kind of accessories would be helpful starting using these cameras.
    I ordered quite some batteries, but what about the lens hoods? Are they efficient or are there better alternatives.
    Any other suggestions?

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    (1) I use standard rubber hoods after I found the Sigma designed hoods limit filter use.

    (2) I have the three DPMs as well and use the RRS Grips on two and a JLM Sigma Merrill Grip on the other. I prefer the JLM grip over the RRS because it is lighter, but I have smaller hands than most male photographers.

    (3) I purchased the two viewfinders for the DPM 1 and 2, but find them about useless.

    (4) I recently purchased Hoodman Cinema Straps to use with my Hoodman HoodLoupe, and find it to work okay after taking one of the straps off and using only the remaining strap to keep the Hoodman secure onto the screen when using it.

    (5) I installed ACMAXX 3.0" Screen Protectors to all my screens upon purchase and find them to work just fine.

    My 2 cents. Congratulations on your gear acquisition, and I look forward to your upcoming photos from the DPMs.
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    Thanks a lot darr...

    The JLM grips looks cool to me and does not cut the sigma logo in half vs the RRS grip.

    Since I never use filters my thought was to keep a lens hood mounted to the lenses. I do however not know how efficient the Sigma lens hoods are. The DP2Q lens hood is worthless.

    Batteries I found here: 3X Battery 750mAh for Sigma DP1 Merrill DP2 Merrill DP3 Merrill | eBay

    Sure I'll upload some images when I get going and have learned to do a decent job with the cameras.

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    I use the standard Sigma lenshood for DP2m, it works fine; but as mentioned above, I dont see how to use fliters, especially polarizer.
    I also use a small Cokin set, especially for graduated grey filter.

    These filters you cannot fake in software

    btw: my settings are: neutral, contrast -0.2, saturation +0.2

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    Thx Foveon

    I am aware no PP can simulate a true filter in any way. Time will show if I would use such filters. There's though a need of a ND filter for blur effect on water in high light etc.

    Thanks for the tips for the settings.

    I have no relation or any wish to promote DigLloyd, bust just saying there's no site that has dealt with the DP Merrils as his. His findings has influenced my choice of the DP Merrills for printing large. That the Merrills makes a truly amazing B&W file is just a very nice spin off.

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    Does anybody see the Iridient RAW developer as a valuable *accessory* ? Would you be able to describe the different looks after conversion to tiff? Links?

    The only fear I have is what challenge/nightmare the SPP will expose on me. It is incredible what you may read about the crashes and inconvenient behaviour. I am a man with nerves made of iron, not titanium

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    SPP is part of the game, I mostly use it just for converting to tif. From my experiene its wise to copy the pic you want to convert to an empty folder and open it from there with that SPP.

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    foveon..

    Do you mean you do not use the SPP for anything but direct conversion to tiff? No global adjustments at all?
    This is certainly what I could hope for works for me. I am not quite sure at this moment if I can leave everything as is and just importing the tiff to ACR/PS and take it from there.
    That would not be a too quirky PP workflow.

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    Just sometimes play a little around with that fill light, but mostly do all the work in PS.
    From my experience it seems that SPP applies some sharpening with sharpening set to Zero.
    When I blow up pics in PS to make large prints and I sharpen them I see artefacts that IMO are characteristic of double sharpening, so I wonder, when one sharpening is done in PS, where does the other come from.
    I havent installed SPP 6.x so its just a hint to test this by yourself

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    What are these artifacts? Halos?
    Do you process in ACR before PS? (guess would require a DNG conversion first).

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    Some fine Halos and other irritating things, its kind of feeling, and I noticed only in uprezed files for larger prints, 60x90.
    If I reduce sharpness settings in SPP a little sub zero, uprez and sharpen in PS I dont get Halos.
    This may chance with the update of SPP, but Sigma never says what they are real changing.
    Its just a hint to have an eye on it since you wrote you are interested in large prints, you can get large prints with lots of details, not like large prints from bayers, where you see sharpness, which is easy done in software, but no details.

    I convert to 16bit TIFF and open in PS where I do adjustments and work with layers and masks if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foveon View Post
    Some fine Halos and other irritating things, its kind of feeling, and I noticed only in uprezed files for larger prints, 60x90.
    If I reduce sharpness settings in SPP a little sub zero, uprez and sharpen in PS I dont get Halos.
    This may chance with the update of SPP, but Sigma never says what they are real changing.
    Its just a hint to have an eye on it since you wrote you are interested in large prints, you can get large prints with lots of details, not like large prints from bayers, where you see sharpness, which is easy done in software, but no details.

    I convert to 16bit TIFF and open in PS where I do adjustments and work with layers and masks if necessary.
    Thanks for sharing Foveon.

    OOC that sharp, detailed and saturated I would have believed would not need further sharpening even printing large. I will of course have to learn how the PP'ed files shows on prints. But I trust you... very detailed and punchy.

    I am not sure yet how my workflow will look like with the Foveon files. Am so grown into ACR basic developing and gradients and all the basic stuff there including B&W conversion, that I think I will open the TIFF in Lightroom first since it's basically the same developer routine.

    TIFF should actually show the linear gamma in DNG files which will let ACR open the file. This is an advantage the way I work by synchronizing batches to get some consistency in a series of images taken the same place under the same light conditions. I.e. to let the blue sky show the same color tone for a stripe of bundled images.

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    Re: DP Merrill accessories

    Just found and ordered 3 1150mah for my new DP3 Merrill here If capacity is honest, should really help battery life. If not, not.

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    Please let us know if these fit well. The problem with a number of after-market batteries of this configuration is that they are tight in the battery slot and can be difficult to remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbarthel View Post
    Just found and ordered 3 1150mah for my new DP3 Merrill here If capacity is honest, should really help battery life. If not, not.
    Cheap

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    Hi,
    since i also jumped late on the Merrill Train, i also looked for perfect fitting screen protectors, but was disappointed from the results. Regarding the mentioned ACMAXX LCD-Screen protectors: What i can see in the linked picture it does not cover the whole glas screen. The whole glas area is something about 3.2" inch - only the underlying pixel-LCD is 3".

    GGS & Co does not manufacture a dedicated & perfect fitting protector for Merrills , but i found that the GGS ones build for a Nikon D3100 and Canon 40D/50D (and 5DMk2) fits nearly perfect.
    Here's i a picture from my setup, GGS glas for Canon 40D fitted.

    Regarding lens hood: a B+W 900 rubber lens hood.
    Regarding mounting plate: a small Kirk PZ-130

    Bye, X3inca

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    Re: DP Merrill accessories

    Thanks for the tips. Really appreciated.

    The thread forms a very nice list of purchase and that's pretty cool when a new camera family is coming in.

    Would anybody recommend some adaptor suitable for the 52 to 49 mm filter threads so that only one VND filter is necessary, or that could maybe be any adaptor from any manufacturer?

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    Just use simple step up rings

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    Thanks.

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    Re: DP Merrill accessories

    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    Would anybody recommend some adaptor suitable for the 52 to 49 mm filter threads so that only one VND filter is necessary, or that could maybe be any adaptor from any manufacturer?
    I always rely on Heliopan for this kind of stuff - they are made of brass instead of aluminium. But all vendors should work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X3inca View Post
    Hi,
    since i also jumped late on the Merrill Train, i also looked for perfect fitting screen protectors, but was disappointed from the results. Regarding the mentioned ACMAXX LCD-Screen protectors: What i can see in the linked picture it does not cover the whole glas screen. The whole glas area is something about 3.2" inch - only the underlying pixel-LCD is 3".

    GGS & Co does not manufacture a dedicated & perfect fitting protector for Merrills , but i found that the GGS ones build for a Nikon D3100 and Canon 40D/50D (and 5DMk2) fits nearly perfect.
    Here's i a picture from my setup, GGS glas for Canon 40D fitted.

    Regarding lens hood: a B+W 900 rubber lens hood.
    Regarding mounting plate: a small Kirk PZ-130

    Bye, X3inca
    Sorry, but you are wrong about the ACMAXX Screen Protectors; they are a little over 3.25" inches diagonally and cover my Merrill screens 100%, plus they display the Merrill name through the protector and not the manufacture's name as your photo shows. Maybe you work for GGS?

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    I forgot to mention that I use a Pee Wee Pixel Pocket Rocket for holding extra batteries and cards.
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    I know some folks think they will not need filters and purchase the Sigma hoods, but the following photo I made a few days ago would not look like it does without the ND filter I used to bring in the sky. The Foveon sensor is a bit unforgiving of highlights and I find the need for polarizers, ND filters and bracketing as part of my shooting technique.




    Train Cars, Early County, Georgia
    Sigma DP3 M, ISO 100, 1/20 sec @ f/8.0 +0.7

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    @darr: Thank you for the detailed ACMAXX picture, it's far better than the official sales picture from above the Link, fitting is perfect, indeed. And no, i have no relationship to any of the vendors, i just wrote about them because they are easier to buy here in Europe.
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    ....many thanks for your contributions....

    Polarity filters or gradient filters solves maybe problems with blown highlights in the sky if the metering is difficult. They do well for the skies above a horizon and opens for ETTR. But such filters can't deal with blown highlights outside their working area. Reflections etc. They are gradient filters as we know.
    I normally exposure for the highlights and let the shadows fall where they fall. You may crank up fill light if your shadows blocks and bring out texture there. I am not so concerned about the shadows as shadows or darkness is natural for our eyes opposite blown highlights.
    Exposuring for the highlights allways works... for me at least
    Never the less I like gradient filters as they do stuff we can't achieve in PP.
    @darr, your image here is a prove of it.

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    I have a 52mm B&W pol-filter laying around. Have a 58 mm VND filter. Will see if I need a smaller VND filter if adapting 58 mm to 49 mm is causing vignetting on DP1? Have to find a smart solution for this and one that fits the 3 cameras without having to fiddle too much in the field.

    I love to be able to smear the water at the seaside or a lake, in particular in B&W.

    I am leaving for London for a photo workshop this week and will pop in at Jessops or something to buy what I need.


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    49 to 58mm is also just one ring with minimal or no depht, so vignetting will not be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    Hey darr, is that the RRS L plate and grip, or is that the one that's all over eBay?

    I wanted to get the cheap eBay one, but I read that the battery compartment doesn't open with it on, even though there's a cut-out for the battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjp85 View Post
    Hey darr, is that the RRS L plate and grip, or is that the one that's all over eBay?

    I wanted to get the cheap eBay one, but I read that the battery compartment doesn't open with it on, even though there's a cut-out for the battery.
    It is the RRS grip, but I do prefer the JLM grip because it is a bit smaller in my hand. I was able to buy my grips used; just keep checking eBay, FM Forums, LuLa, etc. for used ones. Ya gotta have access to the battery doors with these beauties.
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    I actually have two of the SunwayFoto brackets on the way with my Merrills: Sunwayfoto PML-DP L-Bracket For Sigma DP Series Cameras PML-DP

    I'm hoping my RRS clamp will tighten down on it, and I also hope it'll feel comfortable for handholding. We'll see...

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    For grips (DP2M, DP3M) I have the Richard Franiec grips. I bring the camera to vertical with the tripod head. The camera is light enough that on my RRS tripod it does not matter that the camera is not positioned directly over the tripod for verticals.

    I just got a Voigtlander 75mm viewfinder for the DP3M. Works well with crisp bright-lines and no magnification or reduction. Using a viewfinder allows you to hold the camera steadier and use a lower shutter speed. There is a dotted bright line for parallax that I wish was less conspicuous, though I'll get use to it.
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    So, funny story about the Sunwayfoto L bracket/grip ( Sunwayfoto PML-DP L-Bracket For Sigma DP Series Cameras PML-DP )

    I got two of them. They should be identical right?

    Well, first of all, they look and feel beautiful. I love the grip. VERY nice.

    Now the bad news. The one on my 2M locks down tight in my RRS clamp in vertical and horizontal orientation (okay, that's good news).

    The one on my 3M locked down tightly in horizontal orientation, but NOT in vertical orientation!

    I was completely baffled. I tried over and over again, looking closely at what was going on. It just wouldn't lock down. Looks like they cut off a bit too much material, but comparing the two brackets side by side, they look identical...I think.

    So one worked, and the other didn't. Weird.

    So this means I'll probably get an RRS grip for my 3M and be done with it.

    In conclusion, stay away from the Sunwayfoto... unless you get a good one that works, because they really are beautiful and feel very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulO View Post
    For grips (DP2M, DP3M) I have the Richard Franiec grips.
    I like this elegant grip. Covers the whole Sigma engraving which makes it look less a clamp on solution.

    Lensmate: Richard Franiec Sigma DP1/DP2/DP3 Merrill Custom Grip

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltytri View Post
    Please let us know if these fit well. The problem with a number of after-market batteries of this configuration is that they are tight in the battery slot and can be difficult to remove.
    They arrived promptly and fit perfectly. Don't have any usage data yet.

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    has someone tried these

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    Quote Originally Posted by foveon View Post
    has someone tried these
    I have several of them.

    They work perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    I like this elegant grip. Covers the whole Sigma engraving which makes it look less a clamp on solution.

    Lensmate: Richard Franiec Sigma DP1/DP2/DP3 Merrill Custom Grip
    I have the Franiec Grip on both my Merrills.

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    Cable shutter release

    Richard Franiec's Camera Accessories

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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    I simply use the 2 sec drive mode. I did not know these were even made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    I simply use the 2 sec drive mode. I did not know these were even made.
    Our problem is that we would not be able to use them w our EVF's since they occupy the hot shoe.

    I'd rather use the timer and keep the EVF on the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    Sorry, but they are not for the Merrills! I asked Richard 5 weeks ago if a Merill version was planed:
    DPM cable adapter will not be produced, sorry.

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    I was not clear. I was thinking of this one: https://picasaweb.google.com/Richard...42265844262450

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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    I was not clear. I was thinking of this one: https://picasaweb.google.com/Richard...42265844262450
    Sure, but that's not a Merrill, it's a older DP1
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    Quote Originally Posted by X3inca View Post
    Sure, but that's not a Merrill, it's a older DP1
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    Nice thread and lots of info on these fine cameras. I too am a new DPM user. The accessories I have for my DP2M and DP1M are:
    1. Original Sigma Hoods - when I need to use filters, I just take them out
    2. Lee Seven5 system filters. I had these already and just bought the adapters to fit the DP1M and DP2M
    3. Franiec grip on the DP2M. I have not yet decided if I need one on the DP1M since most of the time I use a tripod.
    4. Instead of the Sigma VF's, I opted to get a Carry Speed VF-4
    5. Batteries. I have the original sigmas and some no-brand substitutes. So far the subs give out the same number of shots as the originals.
    6. I also got myself a USB charger and an Anker Astro 3 12,000mah power pack. I use this when I am out the whole day, say from sunrise to sunset. Whenever a battery runs out of juice, I replace it with a fresh one and put the used battery on the USB charger w/c is connected to the power pack. The Anker can charge 3 USB devices at a time so while I am shooting, my used batteries are charging away in the bag for later use. This is just for insurance so I don't run out in the field.
    7. I also use the eye-fi mobi sometimes to transmit the jpegs to my iPad mini when I need to see the composition in a bigger screen than the camera's LCD. I can normally take about 30-40 shots on a full charge with the eye-fi card on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granto View Post
    4. Instead of the Sigma VF's, I opted to get a Carry Speed VF-4
    Thanks Granto. A check list for the serious DPM shooter.

    Like the Carry Speed VF-4.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ifuZK2o-U

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    Hi G43,
    Here is the VF-4 with the DP2M


    Sigma DP2 Merrill with Carry Speed VF-4


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