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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

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    Wow Quentin ... this engine room is more clean than the local Hospital in town where I live ;-)
    If there was one spill of oil, dust or any fingerprints on that motor, the DP2Q would have shown.
    I assume you had the latest FW uploaded as well as the latest SSP in use, then I see far more pop than earlier images showed.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    These were some fun from the Supercar event at Syon Park on Friday, where I was fortunate to be invited as a guest.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

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    Well done. Lovely shots. Good processing. I love vintage cars = these shots took me

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    Thanks - some of the cars are a tad mad.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
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    Quentin, I've gotta ask, given the positioning, what on earth is that thing in the seat for?

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    Good question, Louis. Might be a patented flatulence disperser, given the volume of Champagne, lobster and other rich foods on offer... Just a theory

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    ^^^ BTW, detail shots are where the DPxx excels imho. ^^^

    I finally got to play with DP2Q last week in Park Cameras.

    Ergonomically, I am just not impressed. I did like the fact that it was a lot faster, the screen appears to be clearer and the inbuilt level is something which I think is mandatory on all digital cameras, so well done to Sigma for doing this. But I just don't think I want to give up my DP2M or have both.

    That said I will probably buy the DP1Q as I do not have the DP1M. I think I actually need to own one of the models just to decide if my prejudices are right or not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Thanks - some of the cars are a tad mad.....
    Amazing shots.

    I was wondering if you could recommend a Pano software ?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    Thank, Maitre Ute

    I'd recommend PTGui if you are on a PC as I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Thank, Maitre Ute

    I'd recommend PTGui if you are on a PC as I am.

    Much appreciated kind Sir.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Quentin, I've gotta ask, given the positioning, what on earth is that thing in the seat for?

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    I believe it's the knob to adjust the seat height.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    RIP, Uwe.

    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    Perhaps my question here is out of proper timing since Sigma didn't come to the final SPP version yet. But how do you general feel the things are going? Is the DPQ series in the end going to wipe the floor under the DPM's?
    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    >FF Foveon.. New SPP required.

    Means you can have a vacation on save :-)
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    A few shots with the DP2Q taken recently on a trip to Greece.

    Cats waiting for food at a citrus plantation on Chios.

    Etched designs (Xysta) on the buildings in Pyrgi.

    One of about 20 monasteries on Athos.

    View from Nea Moni on Chios to sea

    Ancient village of Mesta on Chios
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    Scho-

    Finally decided to get a Gigapan unit (used). It comes w/o software.

    Want to sell me a copy of your Gigapan stitch (strictly for my personal use) ?

    By the way, did you use the very latest version of SPP to process those photos ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ute View Post
    Scho-

    Finally decided to get a Gigapan unit (used). It comes w/o software.

    Want to sell me a copy of your Gigapan stitch (strictly for my personal use) ?

    By the way, did you use the very latest version of SPP to process those photos ?
    You are welcome to have the Gigapan Stitch for free. I don't use it because it is too slow and crash prone. I use AutoPano Pro 3.x from Kolor.
    I used SPP 6.0.5, is that the latest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    You are welcome to have the Gigapan Stitch for free. I don't use it because it is too slow and crash prone. I use AutoPano Pro 3.x from Kolor.
    I used SPP 6.0.5, is that the latest?
    Thanks so much. Very generous. Unfortunately I do not have a Mac platform.

    No. 6.0.6 is out along with another Firmware update.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ute View Post
    Thanks so much. Very generous. Unfortunately I do not have a Mac platform.

    No. 6.0.6 is out along with another Firmware update.

    Thanks, I just updated both fw and spp. Here is another gloomy Athos shot taken on a rainy day boat trip around the peninsula. Click for lots of detail in the full size image,

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    From a walk in the local park today. Noticed that we now have labels on representative tree species with QR coded links to full description of the tree and exact location.

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    Cosmos Pink



    Perfect Coil



    Early autumn color

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    Scho-

    Really nice shots.

    How did you process them ?

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    Really nice shots.

    How did you process them ?
    Thank you The Ute. Nothing special, just SPP6 and LR for touchup and web export.
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    [QUOTE=scho;604133]Thank you The Ute. Nothing special, just SPP6 and LR for touchup and web export.[/

    You're welcome.

    I am waiting to pre-order my DP1Q.


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    Out for a walk with our 8 year old grandson Parker.



    Fall asters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Congrats Quentin.

    I still would settle for a spin in the Aston though.

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    Fall colors and light.
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    And a few more.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    DP2 Quattro does food photography:

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    Boscastle Harbour, Cornwall. Two images focus-stacked using Helicon.

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    After the Rain:



    Somewhat lucky with the light and rainbow.
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    Quentin,

    Lovely stuff . . . thanks for sharing.

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    Thank you, Rand. Enjoyable - if somewhat wet - trip to Cornwall!
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    Mevagissey harbour, Cornwall. Stiched panorama

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    Part of a mural painted by Brazilian street artist Eder Muniz aka “Calangos de Rua” (Street Chameleon) in Ithaca, NY.

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    Beautiful image Quentin. How many image stitch? horiz or vert? Would make a great print.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    Hi Shaun

    Many thanks. Edit: 7 shots, portrait format. Handheld as I had not take my pano head with me. I am torn between this and the colour version,

    A further shot from today with the DP2Q. The issue I mentioned on the DP1 Quattro shot thread only seems to appear if the background is blown out. Otherwise it seems to be fine.

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    I've found that keeping clouds from blowing out can be a challenge with the DP2Q. Especially where the camera is challenged by bright sky between lots of branches. Not a wide dynamic range camera. By the time I pull the highlights within the camera's range, the foreground can be underexposed by 2 or more stops. But good lighting = superb images.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    Indeed, Shaun, more of a challenge than with the Merrills, which excell at highlight recovery. Makes one wonder why things changed for the worse in this regard with the Quattros. Three steps forward, two steps back.
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    The Court of the Patriarchs at Zion NP (Clicking several times will enlarge image).
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    I like the rendering, color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octagone View Post
    I like the rendering, color.
    Thank you.

    Shot as a Superfine JPG.

    Touched up just a little in Topaz.

    The usability of the Quattro is much better compared w the Merrill.

    Conditions were wonderful.

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    Here's a couple more from the same trip (clicking enlarges).
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    Kolob Canyons of Zion NP (clicking enlarges)

    Enjoy.

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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    Just for fun I compared the Sigma DP2Q w an A7r ( I know it's just one shot).
    The A7r has a the Zeiss 55 mounted.
    Both were shot at f11 on tripod w remote release.
    Similar post-processing in Topaz.
    Both on "Standard".
    I'll let you judge for yourselves.
    The one on the left is the Quattro.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    I have retired my Quattros from service and have reverted to the Merrills (and other cameras)

    The Quattros suffer from what is, for me, four fatal flaws.

    First, they clip the highlights far too easily. Unlike the Merrills, there is very little headroom and the highlights cannot be recovered in SPP.

    Second, there is the issue with false colour infill between backlit high contrast objects like tree branches. This is linked to the first issue, because it only seems to be visible when the background is blown out, such as with distant tree branches against a blow out sky. This is wholly unacceptable in a modern camera. The last camera I owned that suffered a similar problem was a Kodak 14n - more than 12 years ago.

    Third, purple blodges on grey / green areas, particularly in low light conditions, and even at low ISO. The Merrills may not be great in these conditions, but the Quattros appear to be worse. In fact, they are quite hopeless.

    Fourth, while I quite like the camera shape for handheld shooting, it is hopeless for stitched panoramas using my Fanotec setup, whereas the Merrills are a perfect fit. A minor point, perhaps, but the DP2M and DP3M are near perfect for stitched panoramas.

    In their favour the DP1 and DP2 Quattros do have better colour and slighty higher resolution, but that is not enough to make up for the faults.

    Now I hope improvements may come with a firmware or software update, but I'm not holding my breath. At the moment, these cameras look like a dead end. The sensor needs a complete rethink. My preference would be for Sigma / Foveon to revert to the traditional Foveon X3 sensor, but I doubt that will happen.

    Of course in appropriate conditions, great results are possible, but the operating window is so narrow it is very limiting.

    It is all very unfortunate.
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    Re: Sigma DP2 Quattro Shots

    Quentin, thank you for sharing your experience with DP Quattro. Hopefully, Sigma listens to photographers that use their cameras and provide valuable user input. I hope Sigma can deliver a full frame DSLR with an improved Foveon (proper X3 Merrill style) sensor in the near future. Until then Merrills and film will suffice for me.
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    Yeah, I'm a bit ticked off at Sigma, the Quattro looks and feels like a R&D project that was let loose on unwary consumers, who expect a step up from the Merrills. Neither the camera nor the software are ready for prime time. Sigma might think about doing something for us "early adopters" of this undeveloped technology, much like they did for purchasers of the $10K SD1, offering credit usable toward their next camera. Otherwise I will not be buying another Sigma camera. You can say there is some risk in buying into new sensor technology, but my 12 year old Canon Digital Rebel handled highlights better than this camera does.
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