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    I have been trying to do something a bit different with the Ricoh GR system (not everyones cup of tea)...
    Owned the GR, GR II and now GR III. I find great joy in using such a well thought out camera system with it's compact form and ease of use very inspirational for creative expression photography.



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    Hi Tony
    and welcome!
    Very nice pictures, and nicely different too!....and I think specially this one is very strong, and very close, which contributes together with your abstract blend to the special and strong view
    best thorkil
    Ps. let me ask, that in the middle, is it at steal from Rubens or so?

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    thanks Thorkil, glad you enjoy the photos.
    Not a Rubens ha, just walking by a old painting in a Houston museum with some GR magic.



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    Hi Tony
    and welcome!
    Very nice pictures, and nicely different too!....and I think specially this one is very strong, and very close, which contributes together with your abstract blend to the special and strong view
    best thorkil
    Ps. let me ask, that in the middle, is it at steal from Rubens or so?
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    just turned it on M, to manually adjust shutter and aperture and let the iso auto adjust.

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    If you let iso auto adjust how do you apply more/less exposure? I ask as I tend to over expose the meter reading but would want to be not be committed and to expose normally or less sometimes.

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    If you let iso auto adjust how do you apply more/less exposure? I ask as I tend to over expose the meter reading but would want to be not be committed and to expose normally or less sometimes.

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    Hi Tony, in M setting (where the ADJ-button is occupied for shutterspeed - else this is used for +/-EV), you just instead turn the outer-ring-wheel at the backside with your thumb, and you see the according +/- EV amount at the buttom at the screen, at the right side, very handy and fast
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    Can anyone explain how the GR III image control parameters work? For instance, when selecting one of the effects, eg Standard, Vivid, Positive Film etc and then pressing Fn button you can change various settings such as saturation, sharpness etc. For me, these parameters are only all zero by default for the Standard mode. All the others have one or more parameters set to other than zero. For Positive Film the defaults are

    High/Low Key -1
    Contrast +3
    Contrast (highlight) -1
    Contrast (shadow) -2

    This seems non-intuitive to me - I'd expect each of these modes to offer different looks starting with all parameters at 0?
    Does it mean that if I zero all of the above for Positive Film, I am back at the same as the 'Standard' effect?

    If the above settings truly are the default for Positive Film and I adjust any of them, I'll never remember how to get back to these defaults!

    For comparison, on the Sigma dp Quattro series, each of the film modes start off with all parameters zeroed even though they offer different looks at those zero settings.

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    If I take a DNG file and process it in-camera and select Positive Film and set all the parameters to 0, the resulting image does look different to the Standard mode. Similarly, Vivid, when all parameters are set to 0 does indeed look more saturated than standard.

    By default, Hi Contrast B&W has Grain set to 3 but this parameter was only introduced in firmware 1.2, so I wonder why it would now have a default of 3, whereas prior to 1.2 presumably this value was not set?

    Could it be that in firmware 1.2 they have mistakenly set non-zero parameters as the defaults?

    Or maybe my understanding is just way off? Of course I do not have an earlier GR model to compare the default looks with ...
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    I'm at no help here, perhaps Louis?

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    Portrait experiment...





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    Enjoying my GR III so far ...





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    Have any of you folk thought of a good small flash for the odd time you want to 'fill' against a backlit shot in the sunshine?

    I'd rely on the ASA and stabilisation for my interior shots but I do like fill for those extra bright days.

    So nothing too big please!

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    Re: Fun with the Ricoh GR III

    Desenzano





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    Is anyone using the highlight-weighted metering mode? I haven't been able to determine when to switch to this setting. For me it's been hit or miss, with mostly miss shots. I'd love to see some examples of images that work well with this setting.

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    Desenzano





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    It's a small world (RX100V). I prefer your composition and the Ricoh's file, though.
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    ha-ha, Retow , yes sometimes the world is just small
    I took also your angle, and was about lifting the shadows too, but coming out from the old Castle, where there were an video exhibition with the weird and famous Italian painter Caravaggio (1571-1610), it seemed that I had seen "the light", which mean he operates with hefty darkness and hefty "spotlight" on the figures - I was thinking perhaps we all are trapped by doing a equalizing between shadows and light, so I left the shadows almost alone (just lifted a tiny bit) in honor to Caravaggio.
    So I consider posting weird pictures of weird paintings from a weird artist..
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    Re: Fun with the Ricoh GR III

    just a consideration:
    while I really do think the Ricoh GR is about the only REAL pocket-camera of high IQ-capacity, I'm considering 3 options to have with me when I absolutely don't want to drag an ordinary camera with, while not feeling in the ultimate photo-mood, or just don't care for holding the size and weight, and dont want to concentrate on the level such a committed camera ask you for to be in (even of a Z7 or X-T3 or even a X-E3), so:
    1. buying a Iphone 11 pro, while it seems to take really good pictures (instead of my Samsung 8)
    2. buying a Z50, even though its not a pocket-camera, but its handy and familiar with my Z7, so its like being at home
    3. just putting the GR III in my pocket without any protection, so its available just as quick as a phone, and take the risk of hurting the lens-closing-mechanism - while we only live once (perhaps washing trousers with inside out in the future then, to avoid pocket-wool then)
    The option 3. seems to be the most attractive (and the most moneysaving option (before a lens-door-damage), while its just here).
    Anyone doing the option 3.???
    (Well silly questions one can't have enough of...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    just a consideration:
    3. just putting the GR III in my pocket without any protection, so its available just as quick as a phone, and take the risk of hurting the lens-closing-mechanism
    Why don't you make a thin cloth pouch that fits around the GR III. Leave it open on one side (top-side in your pocket). So grabbing the camera from your pocket is as quick as without the pouch. Putting it back you first put it in the pouch, and then put the two together in your pocket. I think that's almost as convenient and avoids the risk of damaging the lens closing mechanism and/or getting lint in the camera openings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Why don't you make a thin cloth pouch that fits around the GR III. Leave it open on one side (top-side in your pocket). So grabbing the camera from your pocket is as quick as without the pouch. Putting it back you first put it in the pouch, and then put the two together in your pocket. I think that's almost as convenient and avoids the risk of damaging the lens closing mechanism and/or getting lint in the camera openings.
    fine idea Pegelli, only if not it contained the worrying words: "Why don't you make a...", well I just ordered a Ricoh soft leather case GC-10, which is open at the top.., then I can avoid challenging my creative skills ..
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    Re: Fun with the Ricoh GR III

    I have a Fuji XF10, which is essentially the same size as the GRIII. I put it in a small soft nylon pouch that also has a belt strap. I can slip the camera in a coat pocket, put it on a belt, or stick it in my camera bag. I am not sure I could put the camera in a pants pocket. Naturally, if a break the XF10, it is half the price of a GRIII. But I find very little reason not to take my XF10 with me--it is amazingly small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    fine idea Pegelli, only if not it contained the worrying words: "Why don't you make a...", well I just ordered a Ricoh soft leather case GC-10, which is open at the top.., then I can avoid challenging my creative skills ..
    thanks
    Shouldn't every modern man be able to use thread and needle

    But the GC-10 is indeed close to the idea I suggested. Only you'll have to fold back to top slip to be able to pull the camera directly from your pocket, without first pulling out the case and then pulling the camera from the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegelli View Post
    Shouldn't every modern man be able to use thread and needle

    But the GC-10 is indeed close to the idea I suggested. Only you'll have to fold back to top slip to be able to pull the camera directly from your pocket, without first pulling out the case and then pulling the camera from the case.
    Well I did once use a needle and thread..when I was 18 I sued a fine leathercase for my Rollei 35, before I left on my danish motorbike Nimbus (please google ) to the Mediteranian Sea, together with a pal, also on his Nimbus...well that was a tour, crowds were gathering everywhere we came, they had not ever seen a 4-cylinder, with overhead camshaft and free exposed valves and operating valve-spring, that was a show every time we started..
    Yes I'm thinking of cutting the strap off, but perhaps it will be handy for pulling it a bit up...
    Will, after having had a GR in the belt for several years, and looking like a gun-man, the crusial thing for me now is trying actually having it in the pocket, I imagine it could be a gamechanger for me..
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    Re: Fun with the Ricoh GR III

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    Will, after having had a GR in the belt for several years, and looking like a gun-man, the crusial thing for me now is trying actually having it in the pocket, I imagine it could be a gamechanger for me..
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    Cargo pockets, like those on hiking pants! Although, I think they may not work well on business suits and tuxedos, but fashion and trend setting has never been my strong suit. I might get out those needles again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    Cargo pockets, like those on hiking pants! Although, I think they may not work well on business suits and tuxedos, but fashion and trend setting has never been my strong suit. I might get out those needles again...
    neither do I, use business suit, just Wrangler jeans, cowboy-trousers we called it in the early times, as architect in Denmark, its luckily okay to look like a well-preserved homeless
    but keys in the right pocket and a GR in the left, mobile and money in the back ones, who could ask for being more well-equipped
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    I've been sticking this camera in my jeans pocket without a case. I found that this works well if there's no case and if I use the small strap that comes with the camera. Every other combination has been more difficult for me. I never considered the possibility that this could damage the camera. It seems solid to me.

    There is new firmware that was just released
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam L View Post
    I've been sticking this camera in my jeans pocket without a case. I found that this works well if there's no case and if I use the small strap that comes with the camera. Every other combination has been more difficult for me. I never considered the possibility that this could damage the camera. It seems solid to me.

    There is new firmware that was just released
    https://www.dpreview.com/news/378515...-camera-system
    , yes that I will do too, then, if the leathercase is too much in the way. My mind is constructed that way, if circumstances are too much uphill it kills my photolust. And its too late to tell my mind other ways to behave.
    So off it go, the leathercase, if it's in the way, in any way , just needed that the little push..
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    Re: Fun with the Ricoh GR III

    just a little service-info.
    Normally I always use Sandisk Extreme Pro SD while they have ever done their best to me.
    But buying the GR the only available in the shop was Lexar Professional.
    But formatting the Lexar in the camera and then on the PC copied the bin-update file to the root: turned it on while pressing the Menu : "The card is not formattet" - several times the same statement.
    So putting a Sandisk Extreme Pro in, and it just succeeded as usual (ver. 1.30), so I wont use Lexar any more (!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorkil View Post
    just a consideration:
    while I really do think the Ricoh GR is about the only REAL pocket-camera of high IQ-capacity, I'm considering 3 options to have with me when I absolutely don't want to drag an ordinary camera with, while not feeling in the ultimate photo-mood, or just don't care for holding the size and weight, and dont want to concentrate on the level such a committed camera ask you for to be in (even of a Z7 or X-T3 or even a X-E3), so:
    1. buying a Iphone 11 pro, while it seems to take really good pictures (instead of my Samsung 8)
    2. buying a Z50, even though its not a pocket-camera, but its handy and familiar with my Z7, so its like being at home
    3. just putting the GR III in my pocket without any protection, so its available just as quick as a phone, and take the risk of hurting the lens-closing-mechanism - while we only live once (perhaps washing trousers with inside out in the future then, to avoid pocket-wool then)
    The option 3. seems to be the most attractive (and the most moneysaving option (before a lens-door-damage), while its just here).
    Anyone doing the option 3.???
    (Well silly questions one can't have enough of...)
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    I'd vote for option 1-iPhone here.

    I don't have a GRIII, but an RX100II is my in-between that has better IQ than my phone (currently Pixel 2 XL), but easier to carry than my Sony A7rII. Realistically these days though, I just use my phone for occasions when I don't want to lug the big camera, and the RX100ii is now pretty much only used for diving in my underwater housing. There's definitely a difference in image quality between the 1" sensor and phone, but for the usage I intend (mostly online or small prints) it is not significant enough to matter.

    The software and internet connectivity is a huge plus of using a phone vs. a traditional compact camera also. The editing in smartphones these days makes the experience of enjoying my photos much smoother, and there are even features like handheld image stacking & HDR that mean I can take images I otherwise would need a tripod.

    At this point, I would only consider buying a new in-between camera only if it something significantly different from my phone experience like: rugged/60m waterproof for diving, wider zoom range w/ ultrawide, or a fast prime like a 35/2 equivalent. For some people, a 28/4 equivalent is exactly what they want, and the GRIII starts to make sense. Personally though, an iPhone with 3 focal lengths at 12MP (including ultrawide now) and all of the connectivity and software feels much more appealing.
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    Re: Fun with the Ricoh GR III

    Quote Originally Posted by ggibson View Post
    I'd vote for option 1-iPhone here.

    I don't have a GRIII, but an RX100II is my in-between that has better IQ than my phone (currently Pixel 2 XL), but easier to carry than my Sony A7rII. Realistically these days though, I just use my phone for occasions when I don't want to lug the big camera, and the RX100ii is now pretty much only used for diving in my underwater housing. There's definitely a difference in image quality between the 1" sensor and phone, but for the usage I intend (mostly online or small prints) it is not significant enough to matter.

    The software and internet connectivity is a huge plus of using a phone vs. a traditional compact camera also. The editing in smartphones these days makes the experience of enjoying my photos much smoother, and there are even features like handheld image stacking & HDR that mean I can take images I otherwise would need a tripod.

    At this point, I would only consider buying a new in-between camera only if it something significantly different from my phone experience like: rugged/60m waterproof for diving, wider zoom range w/ ultrawide, or a fast prime like a 35/2 equivalent. For some people, a 28/4 equivalent is exactly what they want, and the GRIII starts to make sense. Personally though, an iPhone with 3 focal lengths at 12MP (including ultrawide now) and all of the connectivity and software feels much more appealing.

    thanks a lot for your input Graham!
    I have to admit I'm a bit reactionary and old fashioned. And dealing with phonephotos on the internet isn't my strongest side, apart from doing mms'es to our children etc.
    I have the prejudice about cell phones that they make a copymachine-copy of reality, and not a real photo.
    Yes the Iphone 11 really seems to be in the same league as many good compact cameras and even better cameras. But computerwise I'm a windows-computer guy and the relation between my phone and computer are via USB-cabel (sigh..)
    But I can't let go of the feeling of a "cheap" pseudo-photo when using my phone. I'm not reasonable at that point (even though envy can grow upon me seeing those really fine Iphone-shots...but still...the prejudices)
    So after Adam told me he was just sticking his GR directly into his pocket, without ever thinking about the delicate lens-closing mechanism could end up in a serious pocket wool crisis - then with greater peace of mind I will just put my GR in my pants pocket from now on, and put the concerns aside (mental freedom..), and I am delighted by the thought of, having the very competent GR camera right there in my pocket.
    I have also had several wonderful GR years, so I owe it a great deal of goodwill and solidarity.

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    Re: Fun with the Ricoh GR III

    well with the GR III just naked in the pocket, easy to pull out by the strap...





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