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    Re: New style with the GRD2

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    Nice set of environmental portraits!

    The desaturation works well here

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    Hey Brian.

    Thanks for your nice comments. I'm glad that you like them - not everyone does

    P.S. Regarding your last post - l like your sence of humor
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    Crush?
    Someone has a Crush on me?

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    Okay Lili.
    I have to admit it - it's me
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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Just me sweetheart. LOL


    Not sure if labels are a good thing or a bad thing on some ones style. Reason i say that is someone may have a series of images than a week later change there style with something else. Not sure if one should get pegged with a certain style attached to it. This desaturated look works on these images but may not be very good on others of a different look of images. Our well known Jim Colum moderator has a certain look to his work which is mostly seascapes with IR and such but even Jim switches that around also when he maybe doing something else. i guess i just can't put a label on Jim like that because even though most of his work is like that he does move it around. Maybe i need that second espresso. LOL
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Guy and Ellemand!!!
    Oh my!!!

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    Guy; well spoken.
    I didn't try to make a new style for me. I tried out a new style - and it was fun
    I'll never give up my b/w-work, but I found this "new style" interresting - and I know it can only be used to some sort of my work.
    Thanks for the discussion - it's great
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    I have no money but I am a nice guy.


    Well I think this is important here . We should be experimenting and trying new things than along the way if you find a niche than it is all good. As a Pro i never took the specialist stance , i may not be the best at one thing but I believe i am good at many. I kind of rather have it that way to be honest. i like doing lot's of different type of work. Now i may not be the 25k a day fashion shooter but i rather do different things and just be good at them. I get bored easily I guess but i don't want to be the best in one filed of work either. Hope that made sense.
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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Here are a couple of shots from the PMA convention last month. Hope it's OK to post them in this thread (they're from a DSLR).

    I used a Canon 40D with a 50mm f1.4 lens, and it was my experience with this camera and lens at PMA that led me to purchase a GRD2 a few weeks ago. The 40D was too heavy to lug around all day, and I wasnít able to focus it as quickly as I would have liked. I learned that I prefer a wide-angle or normal fixed lens, but need a much smaller and lighter camera.

    These shots were slightly out of focus with color that was too saturated. I tried dropping the color a bit, and also tried them in b&w. Then I tried this desaturated approach, which I liked mainly because the model's expression in the second shot seemed melancholy, as though she had worked too many years at the job and was ready to quit.

    One of the camera manufacturers (I think it was Samsung) had the two models at the booth, where you could jump in and grab a quick shot. I donít know anything about fashion photography and still feel awkward imposing on people to take a photo, but I did the best I could (why pass up the opportunity?). These were the only shots that were interesting.

    I agree with ellemand that this kind of desaturation should be used sparingly and only when it draws something from the content.



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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    We want you to post pictures anywhere on this site and glad you identified what camera. That also helps people
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Great series
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    Nice shots David, well done.

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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Quote Originally Posted by Lili View Post
    Otumay

    Nice set of environmental portraits!

    The desaturation works well here
    Thanks, though I did not grasp what you meant by 'environmental' here. As for desaturation, I always thought that the Ricoh is a little too saturated, so desaturation or b+w works for me. Anyway, the funny thing is that, I can no longer go out without my Ricoh in my pocket. Addiction? We'll see...
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    Environmental portraits are usually considered outside the studio in a natural environment. I go through this with clients all the time asking them what they want environmental portraits or studio shots.

    This could be a US description only not sure if this applies around the globe
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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    I've just uploaded two shots in the members' gallery under my username, otumay. You can also search by Fujifilm, S5Pro, Ricoh, and GRD2. Retouched similarly, this may serve as a crude comparison between these two widely different two cameras.
    http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/show...atid=newimages

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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Environmental portraits are usually considered outside the studio in a natural environment. I go through this with clients all the time asking them what they want environmental portraits or studio shots.

    This could be a US description only not sure if this applies around the globe


    Guy, that is exactly what i meant

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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Environmental portraits are usually considered outside the studio in a natural environment. I go through this with clients all the time asking them what they want environmental portraits or studio shots.

    This could be a US description only not sure if this applies around the globe
    Thanks a lot Guy. I'm learning, I'm learning...

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    Great hopefully the folks here inspire you to learn as much as you can.
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    Here's another desaturated photo from PMA.

    I think the other two are stronger, but this one is worth keeping. I like the composition and the fact we focus on the makeup woman more than the model. I played around with the color, and it seems to work better with faded color than with b&w.


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    Nice shots David, well done.
    Thanks Lili. I appreciate your kind words. It may sound sappy, but I value your opinion because I value your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    Thanks Lili. I appreciate your kind words. It may sound sappy, but I value your opinion because I value your work.
    *blushes*

    Thanks David

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    I really like the look of these de-saturated photos.
    I'm sure I'm not the only one who has looked at his prints or slides and thought how bright and colourful they are compared to ones memory. For an example of this, try Fuji Velvia and a polarising filter, it can make an ordinary beach scene look suitable for a holiday brochure.
    I'm sure a little de-saturation is a return to reality.
    Cheers,
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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    i'm not sure i'd qualify the original images as 'desaturated' abnormally. I just think most people are used to the look of 'chrome' images.. which are typically more saturated than reality.

    If you look at some of the classic work done using color negative film, you'll find that those images are still less saturated than the ones found here. Most digital cameras tend to emulate the look of color transparency material.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCollum View Post
    I just think most people are used to the look of 'chrome' images.. which are typically more saturated than reality.
    It's similar to how televisions are sold with heightened color and brightness levels. Rather than match the muted colors of real life, we assume we need to ramp up the color and brightness in order to get our money's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    It's similar to how televisions are sold with heightened color and brightness levels. Rather than match the muted colors of real life, we assume we need to ramp up the color and brightness in order to get our money's worth.
    yea.. it's funny how the eye/brain becomes used to things. I started reading this thread near the end.. then went to the beginning. I was confused, because i couldn't find any desaturated images

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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    Here are a couple of shots from the PMA convention last month.I used a Canon 40D with a 50mm f1.4 lens


    DAVID
    Truly Lovely...... These shots remind me of an exhibit Mary McCartney did
    a few years back with the British Royal Ballet (For Olympus) with the Olympus E1
    Cheers ! Helen

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Truly Lovely...... These shots remind me of an exhibit Mary McCartney did a few years back with the British Royal Ballet (For Olympus) with the Olympus E1
    Cheers ! Helen
    Thanks, Helen. I did a Google search to see some of the McCartney ballet photos. I found a few here: http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/exh_gfx_en/ART28417.html. Looks like a fine group of photos.

    The setup with the models at PMA was a good way to get over my shyness with taking pictures of people. I still feel as though I'm imposing.

    I watched a documentary last week on Henri Cartier-Bresson (it's running on the Sundance Channel). He made the point that it's best to take a few pictures and then wait patiently for your subjects to become used to your being there. That's when you'll be able to capture photos that are more genuine. Having a small camera like a GRD2 would help. It looks like a point-and-shoot.

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    Re: New style with the GRD2

    Third photo (portrait) in the starting message is niiccceee..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellemand View Post
    Hey you all.
    I decided to try out a new "style" than the ordinary b/w, you've seen from me. I would be very happy to hear your opinion.
















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