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    Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Link here to the Rioch page http://www.ricoh.co.jp/dc/gxr/

    and a GXR special site here http://www.ricoh.co.jp/dc/gxr/special/

    The special site has a neat animation, and there are some samples in the special site. Samples are not full size but most are low light.
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - In English - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    The GRX english site is up now http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/gxr/

    and the official brochure is available

    http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/support/brochure/pdf/GXR.pdf

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    And across the street from me, Yodobashi-Yokohama says they have it in stock.
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    And across th estreet from me, Yodobashi-Yokohama says they have it in stock.
    -bob
    you're mean to get a gal's hopes up!

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    You should go buy it Bob so we can test it out. Gear sluts unite
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    I just read about it. What an BRILLIANT concept! Sorta like Hasselblads and other medium format cameras that have a self contained shutter with the lens, but this includes the sensor as well. There are several really intriguing things about this concept.

    One, since the lenses/sensor units are sealed there's little worry about the dust issue. And if the optics of their previous cameras are any indication the lenses will be TOP NOTCH.

    Two, Ricoh has finally, EFFECTIVELY addressed what I've always felt was the weakest aspect in the whole digital age and that is when you bought a camera (or system) you were committed to a sensor and its resolution. (In the film era when you bought a camera like an M6 for example and could keep the equipment or at least the body while Kodak and Fuji and Agfa duked it out in the film department.)

    Thus when the sensor is improved (like the M8) you don't have to toss out legacy equipment when a better sensor came along. Although the costs for each lens/sensor won't be cheap (so far $860 for the 50mm unit).

    I have always yearned for a system where you could buy a camera body and be able to change or improve the sensor (unlike ridiculously exorbitant medium format systems) and Ricoh appears to have finally made that possible. So far a fast 50mm f2.5 with an APSC sized sensor. And a zippy f2.5 zoom with a smaller sensor. (As DPReview put it you trade compactness for quality but you have the option for both.)

    I also like the rugged magnesium body. And a CHOICE of EVF or optical finders. And the 920 kilodot LCD is no slouch either.

    With Ricoh having made ENORMOUS strides in the noise control on their previous small sensor cameras the use of their algorithms on the APS-C size sensor will also be worth looking into as yet a new formidable challenge to mirrorbox-less mFT and APS-C cameras like the GF1, EP-1 and 2, DP-2, X1 and whatever Sony is supposed to announce in a week.

    I'd been considering getting a the GF1 but have concluded since I'd want the EVF anyway I might as well stick with my G1 and the 20mm f1.7 pancake as the unit will be relatively non-descript and compact.

    But THIS concept opens up a whole new ball game. And I'm going to line up to check out this camera.

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    The question for you, Guy, is....WHAT will discussions be under? Small sensor? APS-C? Or its own Ricoh thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    And across th estreet from me, Yodobashi-Yokohama says they have it in stock.
    -bob
    Bob -- i seriously thought you were teasing. my bad! (you do have a quirky sense of humour, you know?)

    at the very least, you have to go over and give it a fondle for us

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    Thus when the sensor is improved (like the M8) you don't have to toss out legacy equipment when a better sensor came along. Although the costs for each lens/sensor won't be cheap (so far $860 for the 50mm unit).
    Well, you now have to toss out your lenses instead of the body. I think I would rather keep a lens that I really like and replace the body to get an improved sensor. Seems a bit impractical to have one sensor per lens unless you limit your system to a couple of lenses.

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    The question for you, Guy, is....WHAT will discussions be under? Small sensor? APS-C? Or its own Ricoh thread?
    Great question and actually thought about that this morning, where the heck do we put this thing in the forum. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Great question and actually thought about that this morning, where the heck do we put this thing in the forum. LOL
    "Other Cameras"?
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Boring. LOL
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

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    Boring. LOL
    agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    you're mean to get a gal's hopes up!
    This might be the only way I can
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    This might be the only way I can
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Name it:

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    how about Lego cameras?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Boring. LOL
    Some people are hard to please
    I'll try again:
    Medium format and digital backs
    Better?
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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    It's nice to see companies thinking outside the box. I fear that the lens/sensor modules will be expensive, although anything compared to Leica is inexpensive.

    Now imagine new modules for IR, UV, very low light, achromatic (b+w), or even profiled like classic films (Velvia, Kodachrome, etc.)!

    Keep it coming, Ricoh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Now imagine new modules for IR, UV, very low light, achromatic (b+w), or even profiled like classic films (Velvia, Kodachrome, etc.)!

    Keep it coming, Ricoh!
    i like the way you think!

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    I would love a B&W optimized component!!! Then, layer in classic B&W film profiles in-camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewteee View Post
    I would love a B&W optimized component!!! Then, layer in classic B&W film profiles in-camera.
    I would not like to see any film profiles baked-in to the image. Personally, picking what you like in post processing is far more flexible.
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    Agreed, but I shoot RAW and in-camera JPGs on my cameras. With the Olympus EP1 I shoot RAW plus the in-camera B&W filter (underexposed around a stop, give or take). In most cases I prefer to PP an image in Silver Efex Pro, however in some cases the in-camera JPG B&W shot is what I'm looking for. I would love to have more in-camera B&W "filters." With two young kids and full-time work I don't have all day and night to take pictures and post process ; ) Plus, many people like Ricoh's in-camera B&W JPGs.

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    andrewtee-- the GXR, like other Ricohs, allows you to shoot RAW & JPEG. the b/w has a ton of options and it's quite easy to find a look you like with a little trial and error.

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewteee View Post
    I would love a B&W optimized component!!! Then, layer in classic B&W film profiles in-camera.
    . . .. and of course, if they were making a black and white only lens, they could do away with the bayer filter and get 3 times the resolution for the same number of pixels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I would not like to see any film profiles baked-in to the image. Personally, picking what you like in post processing is far more flexible.
    -bob
    Bob, every sensor processes with its own unique profile based on its physics, baking this into the RAW file. There really is no such thing as "pure RAW".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    ...if they were making a black and white only lens...
    Eh? what sort of lens is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    And across the street from me, Yodobashi-Yokohama says they have it in stock.
    -bob
    The Japanese site says it will go on sale in the beginning of December. If you order it between now and the day before it goes on sale, they'll give you a Ricoh strap.

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    Re: Ricoh GXR - Its on Ricoh's Japanese site now

    Fellow at the Yokohama Yodobashi says he has one I can look at.
    I will go there this afternoon (Japan time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I will go there this afternoon (Japan time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    andrewtee-- the GXR, like other Ricohs, allows you to shoot RAW & JPEG. the b/w has a ton of options and it's quite easy to find a look you like with a little trial and error.
    I do this today with the GRD series. But, would love to have more control. I tweak exposure, ISO and the B&W settings to get something I'm looking for, but to have a catalog of film-type settings to use as a base for further tweaking would be sweet.

    I'm also in agreement with the wish to have a sensor component without an AA filter for the most B&W clarity (along the lines of Sigma or Leica).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Campbell View Post
    Some people are hard to please
    I'll try again:
    Medium format and digital backs
    Better?
    It might need a new category of "digital Fronts"

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    Don't know, but HOPING -- HOPING -- HOPING ... hoping the GXR's 1.88x telephoto converter lens TC-1 that fits the new 43mm HA-3 adapter can also be used with the GRD3's 43mm GH-2 adapter. That would make a 52mm lens out of the GRD3's 28mm, making up for ground loss by not providing a 40mm TC for the GRD3 like Ricoh had for the GRD2. Hoping ...

    Praying and the lighting of candles for the Digital Gods to start at sundown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Campbell View Post
    Eh? what sort of lens is this?
    Hmm . . . . One with a monochrome sensor? No Bayer filter? Like the Kodak 'whateveritwasitmighthavebeena760butIcantremember' !

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    I dunno...I have to admit this has pushed me back towards the X1. At least that camera is a camera that doesn't have an identity crisis. And the Ricoh isn't hugely cheaper either.

    Of course I kind of poo-poo'd the iPod when it first came out so what do I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    At least that camera is a camera that doesn't have an identity crisis.

    The GXR looks a lot like the Mamiyaflex TLRs or Fuji GX-M to me.

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    And, once again, I am still satisfied with having purchased the GF1.
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    Having to purchase a new lens and sensor makes less sense than getting rid of the body itself to upgrade at a later date with new sensors. Typically, all manufacturers lens stick around for some time, but, with the old tech sensor attached, don't know.
    Have to see how this plays out.

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    How do we mount the lenses on the Pen or the Panny?

    Hold on........what....oh.....

    it's the left side of my brain arguing with the right side....
    I'm stuck in the middle with a camera that only works with itself.......
    Boy, that sure is doing a lot to support the m 4/3 movement...

    what....ok...I'll shut up.....

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    The only piece of gear that has lasted me through several generations is my upstrap and a hot-shoe bubble level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    The only piece of gear that has lasted me through several generations is my upstrap and a hot-shoe bubble level.
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    I have an old 5x7 Deardorff that I haven't used in years cause it's to small. So I take all the sensors from the cameras I don't use and put them in there....soon, it'll be complete and I'll have a digital view camera....
    Ricoh stole my idea of going modular but I ain't talkin'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxide Blu View Post
    Don't know, but HOPING -- HOPING -- HOPING ... hoping the GXR's 1.88x telephoto converter lens TC-1 that fits the new 43mm HA-3 adapter can also be used with the GRD3's 43mm GH-2 adapter. That would make a 52mm lens out of the GRD3's 28mm, making up for ground loss by not providing a 40mm TC for the GRD3 like Ricoh had for the GRD2. Hoping ...

    Praying and the lighting of candles for the Digital Gods to start at sundown.

    The Gods of all things digital didn't care ... again.

    Ricoh just confirmed the TC-1 will not work on he GR-D 3. They didn't say why or what would happen if tried, vinetting, lens clearance, focusing, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Now imagine new modules for IR, UV, very low light, achromatic (b+w), or even profiled like classic films (Velvia, Kodachrome, etc.)!
    Or a sensor module that accepts interchangable lenses.

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