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    Re-classify fully manual cameras

    I think they should re-classify cameras like the G11, S90, LX3, etc. and pretty much anything that has full manual control and RAW. There are enough models out there to define this class of cameras. P&S sounds cheap and cameras like the G11, S90, LX3, (etc.) aren't toys. If you kept only one lens on your dSLR it would be a large P&S?

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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    No cameras are toys,but people can play with a Leica too!
    Ricoh have their GRD and GX cameras under "professional" on the Ricoh website.
    That too is not so clever.
    How about EC , Enhanced Consumer, ?

    There is a great site called Bullsh*t job.com . Perhaps that could come up with something
    PR and marketing friendly!
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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by ajuett View Post

    If you kept only one lens on your dSLR it would be a large P&S?
    Yup -- if it is an auto focus lens, me thinks so. Well, me thinks you would be using your dSLR as a P&S.

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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by ajuett View Post
    I think they should re-classify cameras like the G11, S90, LX3, etc. and pretty much anything that has full manual control and RAW. There are enough models out there to define this class of cameras. P&S sounds cheap and cameras like the G11, S90, LX3, (etc.) aren't toys. If you kept only one lens on your dSLR it would be a large P&S?
    Nope, not if it's my Zeiss C/Y 21/2.8 on my 5DMkII or my Leica-R 50 'Cron.

    "The market wants a Leica to be a Leica: the inheritor of tradition, the subject of lore, and indisputably a mark of status to own."
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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxide Blu View Post
    Yup -- if it is an auto focus lens, me thinks so. Well, me thinks you would be using your dSLR as a P&S.
    Quote Originally Posted by johnastovall View Post
    Nope, not if it's my Zeiss C/Y 21/2.8 on my 5DMkII or my Leica-R 50 'Cron.
    Well, my G11 has MF too and it works quite nicely when needed. Now, where does that leave us?

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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by pollobarca View Post
    No cameras are toys,but people can play with a Leica too!
    Ricoh have their GRD and GX cameras under "professional" on the Ricoh website.
    That too is not so clever.
    How about EC , Enhanced Consumer, ?

    There is a great site called Bullsh*t job.com . Perhaps that could come up with something
    PR and marketing friendly!
    pollobarca, ECC, Enhanced Consumer Camera, or EPS, Enhanced Photography System.

    OT: I have a cousin in Lake Como, are you anywhere near there?

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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    I think it was Olympus that started the Prosumer line?

    How about 'Advanced compact' or maybe 'Compact with Control' ?

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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    My 8x10's are fully manual cameras. Let's not confuse terminology here.
    Monochrome: http://mochro.com

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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    Ajuett,
    yes- I like ECC. Apart from in italian it has the same meaning as Etc. (Eccetera).
    Compact with control sounds like a small size condom ( italy some durex are called control)
    We need to have a name which will not mean something silly in eskimese or engrish.
    CEC consumer enhanced camera ,or camera enhanced for consumers.
    Hopefully its not a sigla for a terrorist grouping in Azbekistan or something.
    A quick google seems to give only innocent meanings to CEC.

    BTW I live about 25 kms from Como.

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    Re: Re-classify fully manual cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by pollobarca View Post
    Compact with control sounds like a small size condom ( italy some durex are called control)
    l


    LOL, I better remember that when I visit Italy!

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