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    Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    For anyone who cares to see what this camera can do in very capable hands please go to the web page of Jim Radcliffe linked here:
    http://www.boxedlight.com/dp1/

    He had the camera for all of 24 hours before taking these photos.

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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    No matter which CAMERA Jim uses
    His Work is Magic
    thanx for posting bbodine9.....lusting for the DP1 anyone ?
    Cheers! helen

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    Wow, those are terrific shots. I already have a DP1, so I'm lusting for the knowledge/talent/skill to create comparable images with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    No matter which CAMERA Jim uses
    His Work is Magic
    thanx for posting bbodine9.....lusting for the DP1 anyone ?
    so true!!!

    anyways, this is a heads-up to tell anyone who looked at the gallery to do so again. he finally has the ones he shot of B.B. King up. as awesome as the Farmers Market shots are (incredible but so totally not my style), i think the ones of the concert are really mind-blowing. they make most of our compacts look like tinker toys.... whoa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam;
    so true!!!

    anyways, this is a heads-up to tell anyone who looked at the gallery to do so again. he finally has the ones he shot of B.B. King up. as awesome as the Farmers Market shots are (incredible but so totally not my style), i think the ones of the concert are really mind-blowing. they make most of our compacts look like tinker toys.... whoa!
    CAM:
    Give us a tease PLEASE / Post one Shot from your DP1
    as long as it does not hurt your arm
    (promise not to tell your boyfriend about your new trinket)
    Hurry & Get Well so you'll be in GREAT Shooting Shape for NYC
    Cheers! helen

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    CAM:
    Give us a tease PLEASE / Post one Shot from your DP1
    as long as it does not hurt your arm
    (promise not to tell your boyfriend about your new trinket)
    Hurry & Get Well so you'll be in GREAT Shooting Shape for NYC
    Cheers! helen
    first to clarify -- when i say Jim's shots aren't my style, i didn't mean i didn't like them, simply that i so rarely see things that way. and, to be honest, this is where the DP1 excels.... when you take the time to stop, think, compose, prepare, yada yada. slow deliberation, reviling in the beauty in front of you.

    it is so contrary to how i shoot. most of the time i'm rushing right in the middle, getting lost in the moment, and snapping tidbits, hoping to capture a glance. the DP1 is there to let you absorb rather than skim... i have a lot to learn with this camera. both how to make it sing for the images it wants to make and also how to make it bow to my will and style.

    that said, i am so so so a GRD girl! but i don't regret the DP1 as i think it will make me grow as a photographer deliciously. when the shot is spot on, it does take your breath away.

    i took a shot of a sleeping pigeon and it seriously floored me -- the depth, the detail, and that was on the DP1's crappy screen... don't know how exciting a pic it is though as for street shots and what not, i've been playing around but cutting off an awful lot of heads (complications/weakness from surgery). in other words, i'm not being stingy, just not sure if i have anything worthy of sharing yet....

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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    Hi cam, good to hear you're enjoying it! it's great to add a totally different camera (especially one with a funky different sensor technology) to inspire us to think and shoot differently...

    I can't wait for my replacement DP1 to arrive... hopefully tomorrow. In the meantime, check out Qimage Studio for maximum quality of scaling - it smooths out the AA jaggies nicely!

    Glad you stayed safe in Paris - I know how frustrating it feels to get unjustly banned! lol no fear of that around here much more civilised company and hosts.

    Kind Regards

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    am just starting to view the images full screen (hadn't installed the software before -- which, btw, is painfully slow on my mac).... OMG!!! my first reaction was, **ck me!

    keep in mind that up till now i have been strictly a small sensor being. i don't have a DSLR or an M8, so i'm very much the innocent in that way. a virgin, if you will. i've never seem images i've made on a larger sensor.

    these blow my mind. truly! they are *that* good when you stop to think that such an itty bitty thing can capture that depth and detail. wowzee!!! and the colours (keep in mind that i really don't care for colour) are astonishing!

    okay now. scraping my jaw off the floor and going back to view more pics. just had to share that initial impression... breathless!!!

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    The good part is the SLR-like quality of these images. When its good, it's very good indeed. Despite the naysayers in other forums, F/4 does not necessarily spell doom in low-light.

    The bad part, visible in some of Jim's shots (ie, the "still life" of lemons) is the signature Sigma characteristic of green & magenta splotches, which I've also seen in many Sigma SD-14 slr photographs. That's an ugly bi-product of the Foveon sensor about which I've yet to read a clear explanation (but I have read lots of down-playing about it, which suggests to me that it's in the "too hard" basket, unfortunately).

    If they can fix the latter, plus make the whole thing more responsive in operation & less cumbersome in handling, I'd definitely buy a DP-2 or DP-3 (or whatever they call the next generation). As it stands right now, I just can't see myself paying the premium for this camera, despite its obvious good qualities.

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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    Cam,

    LOL, your killing me!!!!!!!!!:



    Feel better and post those wonderful shots you speak of, pleeeeeaaaasssseeeee






    jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by kai.e.g. View Post
    The good part is the SLR-like quality of these images. When its good, it's very good indeed. Despite the naysayers in other forums, F/4 does not necessarily spell doom in low-light.

    The bad part, visible in some of Jim's shots (ie, the "still life" of lemons) is the signature Sigma characteristic of green & magenta splotches, which I've also seen in many Sigma SD-14 slr photographs. That's an ugly bi-product of the Foveon sensor about which I've yet to read a clear explanation (but I have read lots of down-playing about it, which suggests to me that it's in the "too hard" basket, unfortunately).

    If they can fix the latter, plus make the whole thing more responsive in operation & less cumbersome in handling, I'd definitely buy a DP-2 or DP-3 (or whatever they call the next generation). As it stands right now, I just can't see myself paying the premium for this camera, despite its obvious good qualities.
    your negatives are true -- the signature Sigma splotches (don't forget those funny red dots for flare), lack of responsiveness, and kludgy handling. and you can add to that the fact that larger sensor's DOF make it truly less forgiving (it's really easy to get bad bokeh with this) if a) you don't know what you're doing and/or b) you are shooting on the fly.

    but when you get it spot on, it is simply stunning. and there is an almost three dimensional quality that i've rarely seen. you feel like you can reach out and touch it!

    there are many like you that will wait. common sense and bank account says i should have as well. however, i don't regret buying it now. as i said, i don't have a DSLR yet... this gives me that amazing quality for less than the price of many lens.

    i am not saying at all that this is a *must have* simply that it has many more positives than a lot of people (other than Sigma fanboys) give it credit for. it's quite simply gorgeous, even with all it's special, um, features

    for me, personally, and my typical style of shooting, i would still have to choose the GRDII if i could only have one camera. period. however, i'm tickled pink that i can easily carry the DP1 with me as well. it may be a beta product, but it's an exceptional one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDavila View Post
    Cam,

    LOL, your killing me!!!!!!!!!:



    Feel better and post those wonderful shots you speak of, pleeeeeaaaasssseeeee
    Jeff, happy to oblige

    making you crazy, i mean! as for putting them up....

    i have to say that most of the pics aren't all that great photographically speaking. technically stunning, yes, but as great photos go -- they're not. many of what i've got show the potential of this camera. the ones i actually kind of like as photos do not show where the DP1 really shines. and that's more driver error (i really am having difficulty to hand movement and arm strength) than the camera's limitations.

    another strength of the DP1, btw, is the ability to bracket or get continous shots in RAW. very cool! (tells you something about *my* strength right now, though. in continuous mode [where one press of the shutter gives you 3 images], i usually get only 2 and sometimes 1

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    The good news is that Sigma's just-released firmware & software updates (8 April 2008) apparently fixes the "green corners" issue - this might well also fix up some of the other green/magenta splotching issues that crop up [fingers crossed]?

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    Jims work is awesome indeed!
    It makes the DP-1 just that much more tempting....
    Cam I really want to see your work with this camera as well, how it does on the Paris Streets. But don't over do it; relapses are so not fun

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    for Lili: not exceptional DP1 photos

    Lili, for you...

    neither is exceptional, nor the best to show off the DP1's prowess (Jim's do that). and i have many that are technically better. for some reason, though, i just kind of liked these two shots. perhaps it's just my mood?

    both are taken at 800 (RAW), no noise reduction (my processing is not spot on either -- it's difficult right now). the metro station shows you a bit of the depth i was talking about. the second, well, is not really in focus at all but i liked the film-like feel.

    again, these are not my best shots! (and why do i have a feeling that Sigma fanboys will be up in arms at what i'm going to come up with with this cam?)

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    Loved the mood & tones of the subway photo
    Cheers! helen

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Loved the mood & tones of the subway photo
    Cheers! helen
    thank you, helen! LOL -- the second one really does suck, but there was just something that attracted me to it (in other words, ignore it).

    i put up a metro station shot because this is one instance where the DP1 truly sucks, especially in comparison to the GRDII. there is something about the lighting that the DP1 just refuses to accept. however, this shot proves it *can* be done if you persevere and i liked the depth that f/4 and the larger sensor gave me. (still, i'll probably stick with the GRDII underground unless i'm feeling particularly masochistic.)

    as for tones, desaturated master by 88 (the colours at 800 are already slightly anaemic) and brought up the red afterwards by 88. i could have gone completely B/W, but i loved the way the slight red tone brought up the deadly pallor in the face.

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    Cam,
    Excellent!
    I do like the second very very much, it is very street.
    As we run through our lives we do not see absolutely everything in sharp focus, rather we see them in a series of vignettes.
    And that is what you caught here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili View Post
    Cam,
    Excellent!
    I do like the second very very much, it is very street.
    As we run through our lives we do not see absolutely everything in sharp focus, rather we see them in a series of vignettes.
    And that is what you caught here
    LOL! i guess i'm feeling really needy right now thank you for indulging me! i'm not feeling sharp so the razor pictures just don't draw me right now (along with the fact that they are dreadfully boring).

    one of the joys i've had with all my cameras is the quality of its **ck-ups. this one demonstrates what happens in the metro station to an extreme (totally driver error here). and, again, totally blasphemous from a DP1 quality point of view -- but i like it.

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    Cam, I like your photos, including the screw-up subway photo. It has an ethereal quality that would be difficult to duplicate intentionally. At some point, the expressive power of photography has to be able to override its documenting capabilities.

    Here's one from my GRD2.
    Last edited by DavidE; 10th April 2008 at 09:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    LOL! i guess i'm feeling really needy right now thank you for indulging me! i'm not feeling sharp so the razor pictures just don't draw me right now (along with the fact that they are dreadfully boring).

    one of the joys i've had with all my cameras is the quality of its **ck-ups. this one demonstrates what happens in the metro station to an extreme (totally driver error here). and, again, totally blasphemous from a DP1 quality point of view -- but i like it.


    I love this. LOVE. IT.

    It is simultaneously Duchampian, evocative of Anton Giulio Bragaglia and utterly yours.

    BRAVA!!!

    I loved the first two you posted, too.

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    ooh, fantastic, David!! the motion is superb! i love the fleeting treats we get from our cameras, almost as though they're the ones expressing themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I love this. LOVE. IT.

    It is simultaneously Duchampian, evocative of Anton Giulio Bragaglia and utterly yours.

    BRAVA!!!

    I loved the first two you posted, too.
    i don't believe i've asked you to marry me this month yet, have i???

    and, as always, much gratitude -- you continually add to my education, introducing me to photographers i don't know but love at first sight!

    ah, WTF, i've already totally hijacked this thread... here's one from the GRDII. i never put it up on flickr because i'm still not happy with the PP, not sure whether to keep the colour in, yada yada. this is the blurb i wrote at the time (public consumption and all that -- what i didn't mention is a wee bit of family history that the pic so obviously shows):


    I yelled at my nephew when he ran into my lens whilst I was trying to take an artsy shot of my step-father's feet. (A camera on the floor with a nine-year-old running around is not the brightest move.) I then apologised to Oliver when he was digging into his ice cream delight and coke. And tried to explain.

    I told him how important my camera was, how it helped me express myself. He asked me if I carried it with me always. I said I did. I then asked him how he expressed himself. He answered that it was with a basketball, but that he couldn't carry it with him all the time. But he said if he was me, he wouldn't want the camera break to either. And then he expressed himself in front of me, around the kitchen table.

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    David and Cam, lovely shots all!

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    Another fantastic photo, Cam! Put it up on Flickr, already!!!

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    Great to see you rock again Cam!

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    Here's another mysterious screw-up photo. No post processing except to brighten it a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    Here's another mysterious screw-up photo. No post processing except to brighten it a little.
    Yikes! Whatever it was that flew in through your window from outer space must still be hiding in your house somewhere, David. Does this sort of thing happen very often around your part of the world??

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    Well I've gone and done it. Ordered a DP1 from Park Cameras today, should arrive on monday
    Last edited by Will; 11th April 2008 at 05:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kai.e.g. View Post
    Yikes! Whatever it was that flew in through your window from outer space must still be hiding in your house somewhere, David. Does this sort of thing happen very often around your part of the world??
    I hope it's not still there. I prefer to think it was heading out, rather then in. (ET return home.)

    The light in the window is from a table lamp, and the smear could have come from camera movement. Only I can't figure out why the rest of the photo didn't also smear (maybe the difference in light intensity?). Similarly, the blue house could have come from the white balance being off (the house is white). Yet why didn't everything come out that blue? Life's little mysteries.

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    I would like to buy a print of that, David.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    I hope it's not still there. I prefer to think it was heading out, rather then in. (ET return home.)
    sorry, charlie! it's coming in

    very very cool!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    Well I've gone and done it. Ordered a DP1 from Park Cameras today, should arrive on monday
    congrats, Will!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbrandsma View Post
    Great to see you rock again Cam!
    thank you! though i think i'm only capable of very slow waltzes at the moment

    glad to hear you got your camera back so fast! they must've known what an excellent spokesperson you are for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I would like to buy a print of that, David.
    Maggie, I wouldn't even know how to charge for a print. How about if I grant you a one-time right to print it for personal use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    Maggie, I wouldn't even know how to charge for a print. How about if I grant you a one-time right to print it for personal use?
    Sure! Got a hi-res file for my printer?

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    Thank you cam, and David for sharing your 'expressive images' I really like what you're doing with these... and the great thing about this forum is that noone seems to take their plastic so seriously to become offended by someone else's personal experience based opinion.

    In the end, it's more important to me to be inspired by a camera, than any particular strength or weakness.

    The trouble is, I'm finding it difficult to define what the criteria are for an 'inspirational' camera...

    it's my overall impression of the camera, starting with the specs, through observed on-line image quality - a huge part is the 'vibe' I pick up from reasonable but passionate fellow photographers, and how they are inspired to use the camera. These shots are perfect examples of that!

    Also, the reputation of the brand supplier comes into play - and I've taken a bit of a gamble that Sigma have produced a high quality camera... only time will tell (now that my first defective unit has been replaced) - I hope that the price is based on more than market positioning, but on the highest quality components.

    Finally, it comes down to getting out and using the camera every day, to see how well I can adapt to it, and make it sing... more on that in due course!

    Kind Regards

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    Sure wish Jono would try the Sigma! Macro too!

    I am hoping that Jono will soon take a stab at the Sigma. He and Jim Radcliffe seem to get the most out of their cameras from what I have seen. What do you say Jono, is it time to try it yet? If you have not seen Jim's latest he is now doing macro with it also.

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    Here's a shot I took this afternoon - the DP1 is certainly discreet!



    I was stood at the handrail of a balcony, and the girl was stood right next to me - the 28mm fov makes it quite practical to frame blind.

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    OK, here are a few of my first efforts with the DP1. I didn't enjoy the experience of taking the pictures but when I got home and saw he files I started to change my feelings towards the camera!









    Same subject with my newly repaired GRD2 for comparison


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    Hi Will, I know what you mean about the shooting experience - but your first shot is veeery nice

    Your 2nd pair illustrates perfectly something I'm struggling with at the moment - I prefer my skies to be blue rather than green!

    One of mine from today :


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    We just ned to get used to the files Brian.


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    Yes, that's lovely & smooth... it will
    be good to have 3rd party RAW support.

    Kind Regards

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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    Brian and Will,

    Great stuff! Applaud you both for being early adopters of this camera and sharing your efforts (and frustrations). I hope you'll get RAW support for it soon.

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    Joan

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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Yes, that's lovely & smooth... it will
    be good to have 3rd party RAW support.

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    call me crazy, but i'm actually not minding the software. or maybe it's just that i'm so floored about how much can be recovered either way -- which would actually be the file itself rather than the software. i'm also fascinated with the monochrome setting for b/w. while i miss being able to tweak the channels separately, it is taking full advantage of the sensor... i still tweak in CS3 after, though (you don't do this, do you?).

    perhaps it's because you're going for the realistic colour whilst i'm playing with expressionistic black and white. i was just playing with another ghost shot and found that the fill light can really mess with the noise/grain if you go too far. it actually came out quite gorgeous. very, very film-like.

    i think, like the camera itself, you need to learn it. unfortunately for me, the software seems to be easier to get my head around than the camera itself.

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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    this is a *major* crop, but an example of SPP at work.

    i only cropped and adjusted levels in CS3. it was very easy to get a more natural feel, but i chose to tweak it somewhat severely because i wanted the pavement near white (even though the expanse isn't shown here).

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    I like your treatment cam. I haven't really played with black and white much yet. I see what you mean about pushing the fill light, I may have some fun with that later if I get time.

    In the meantime here is one i did using channel mixer on a jpg. Not completely happy with it yet though.



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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    this is a *major* crop, but an example of SPP at work.

    i only cropped and adjusted levels in CS3. it was very easy to get a more natural feel, but i chose to tweak it somewhat severely because i wanted the pavement near white (even though the expanse isn't shown here).
    Awesome Cam. This is great

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbrandsma View Post
    Awesome Cam. This is great
    you sweet talker, you! i actual prefer the full shot but it was too hard to see any detail that way. like i said, Sigma purists will probably hate my guts

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    Will,

    every image that comes out of the DP1 needs an upping of the contrast, IMO, especially when you go b/w. a nice little dab of auto level in PS helps as well.

    your image is great, but maybe the above will help. did you shoot RAW or JPEG? you might also want to try using the USM... although you need to be careful of over-sharpening these Sigma files, my favourite way to dehaze is using the Unsharp Mask at 10-25.0-0 (sometimes more than one pass is necessary). if you do that, though, you may want to actually pull down the sharpening in SPP by -0.5 or -0.8.

    as for the fun with the fill light (which really *is* marvelous!), this was the image i was talking about. i bumped down the exposure and juiced the fill light to exaggerate the blur and grain. i'm not sure if you can tell at this size, but the texture is dreamy. (everything but resizing done in SPP -- the blur was all me )
    Last edited by cam; 16th April 2008 at 10:43. Reason: changed my mind

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    Re: Exceptional DP1 photos shared here!

    Love your latest image cam. Beautiful tone and grain to it.

    With my one I made a jpg from the raw file having made a few adjustments to desaturate a little and recover blown highlights. I then cropped, mono channel mixed, levels adjusted and unsharp masked quite a lot in CS3.

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