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    A bit of Survey

    Dante Stella wrote if he had five minutes to pack for Round-the-Wolrd trip he would take his Konica Hexar AF.
    What Camera would you all take?
    For Myself it would be my Hexar if I wanted to take a film camera.
    In Digital the choice is tougher.
    My choices would be;
    1-My Pentax K100D with the 50/1.4. It's Noisy, Big, Heavy, tough and FAST (speed is something I find I cannot do without).
    2-GRD-tiny light, fantastic lens but it drops to second place cause I worry overmuch about dust and fragility, both relating to retracting lens assy.
    3-Fuji S6000fd-It has long zoom range lens that is superb at the wide end and good enough for those few times I need a longer POV. However it is roughly the same size as the Pentax and not as sturdy. The lens is fixed, non-retracting (and so more dust proof than the GRD) and the camera is as quiet as my Hexar.
    These are very close rankings, tough to make that final decision.
    Whats yours?

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    Re: A bit of Survey

    All I have is an M8. I guess it'll have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    All I have is an M8. I guess it'll have to do.
    Maggie, that is one fine choice
    My Ex once told me there was Old Western Gunfighters adage;
    "Beware the Man with one Gun, for he knows how to use it."
    In your case you have a very fine "weapon"

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    Re: A bit of Survey

    I don't really own a P&S or small sensor camera, so it would be the M8 with 28 cron. Even if I did own another "portable" camera, I'd still want the M8.

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    I'd probably miss my D-Lux 3, but truth be told, I haven't used it in weeks.

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    TR and Maggie, I think the key here is to use what you are most familiar with and trust most.

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    I know this'll make me unpopular in this forum, but the image quality of the M8 is what makes me want to use it more than the D-Lux 3. I look at photos from the little Leica and more often than not, I wish I'd taken them with the M8.

    Of course, I was always a photographer who had a Nikon F3, but wanted a 4x5 view camera and thought that XP1 was the greatest thing to happen to 35mm film- no more grain! Obviously, my horizons have broadened. (or my standards have gone down! )

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    Re: A bit of Survey

    Five minutes to pack:
    It's my GRD with 21 and 40, with plans to pick up a DP1 where the price is right.

    Five minutes and a year to pack:
    One of the little 40mm boxes DP2 or Leica CM-D.

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    Five minutes to pack:

    M8 with 24, 35 and 75 lenses in my old gas mask bag. Stick the GR-D2 in a jacket pocket. Stuff lots of little SanDisk packs with tiny card readers in the other pocket. OFF! (the laptop was already packed.)

    add a small train of native bearers, and I'll bring the E3, telephotos and ultra wide lenses, plus viewfinders for the 24 and the ultrawides. GR-D with the 21mm add-on lens, and a real flash, that swivels around. My daughter, not to be left behind, carries the GX-100.

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    If I could only take one camera, I'd have to say my Pentax DS + A-28mm f/2.8 lens, mainly because it runs on AA batteries :) Also, that lens is, IMO, useful for a wider variety of tasks than that of my "up-close street photography" GRD2's.

    Besides, I've had the DS for about 2 years now (GRD2 for only 4 months) and I've become rather attached to it, despite the crack on the front and the broken AF motor :D

    If I could take as much as I could pack in 5 minutes then naturally I'd throw in my GRD2 and its charger as well. Then I'd probably also include the A-50/1.7 lens and maybe the M-135/3.5 for the Pentax, since they're not that big or heavy.

    All would go in my lovely orange Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL bag, which is in need of a good clean.

    I'd probably leave my K10D and assorted accessories behind, because of the weight.

    edit: thinking about it, a round-the-world trip would mean I'd really need some kind of portable backup device, but I don't have one of those :(
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    Re: A bit of Survey

    Five minutes is enough to pick up my two little camera bags, one with my Nikon D200 with 18-200 VR lens already in it, the other with my Nikon D70 body converted to infrared already in it (uses the same lens, which I swap back & forth between the bodies).

    I have a compact (Fujifilm F30fd, soon to be replaced with an F100fd, I expect), but I only have it to carry around all the time for "photographic emergencies" when I wasn't expecting to be doing serious photography.

    Those are the only cameras I own, so I don't have to spend time dithering about which to take!

    Lisa

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    Interesting question... if this were 10 years ago, I'd be dragging a couple of F5s and half a dozen lenses and other paraphernalia. Having graduated to the digital versions (both Nikon and Canon), and dragging them around for years, I finally ditched it all for a pair of M8s.

    To be honest though, at this point, I'd really be tempted to just go with a small waist pouch with my GRD II and my GX 100, and possibly with the TZ3 thrown in for longer reach situations. Then I could really concentrate on enjoying going around the world!

    Cheers,

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    Not around the world, but went to Thailand and Myanmar a few weeks ago and took just my GX100. I have to leave my 1DII and 20D at home now after an accident leaves me unable to hold them for more than a few minutes!

    Pleased with half of the shots (low ISO), but not too happy with the higher ISO images where I really missed the larger sensor characteristics.

    Going to have to look even more seriously at the DP1.

    Paul.

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    Hi Lili,

    I'd carry an Olympus E-420+pancake lens on the Y-strap which just arrived , and also the ultra sharp ZD 12-60mm lens (EFL 24-120mm)... and stuff the DP1 in another pocket.

    I'm ready to go! I love adventure

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    I'm going around South America for three months towards the end of this year and having a pocket-able digital travel camera was one of my main considerations which led me to get the GRD.
    another consideration for me, was security as I'll be doing the trip on quite a small budget. staying in hostels not hotels, getting long distance buses etc.

    plus i'm going to need to fit nearly all my belongings for three months into a backpack.

    originally i was gonna buy myself a small DSLR like the Nikon D40x, but quickly ruled this out as i didn't want to have to worry about storing it at hostels on days when i wasn't taking it out.
    lets face it, no matter how small a DSLR you get you are not gonna carry it at all times. like for instance on a night out or a trip to the beach, with the GRD though it can fit in my jeans or combat shorts pockets no problem.

    which also means I'll have it on me at all times. which is what having a travel camera is all about surely.

    soooo, I'd take my GRD.

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    Hi all,i would take my Grd with the 40mm for digital, or my gr1 v for film..Thats all i own :-\

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    Quote Originally Posted by naoip View Post
    Hi all,i would take my Grd with the 40mm for digital, or my gr1 v for film..Thats all i own :-\
    Excellent choices, both of them.
    Excellent Cameras too naoip ^_^

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    I would pack my M8 with CV15, 35 Cron, and 75 lux. I always have my GX-100 in my purse in case of emergency, so that would go. If there was a little extra room, I'd stuff in my xti and 70-200 IS.

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    Because I use my heavy, bulky Canon 5D outfit less and less often nowadays as much as I like the image quality that it produces, I'd take my GR-D II with its 21 and 40mm lenses, two extra batteries, battery charger, two 4 GB cards, and 21/28 viewfinder. Whatever the Ricoh's shortcomings, it's a fine instrument and so easy to travel with. The entire Ricoh outfit fits into the excellent, small Duluth Trading Fire Hose Leather Travel Case. (I'm not associated in any way with Duluth Trading.) I'd take some large plastic ziplock bags to protect the outfit against the elements. On the other hand, if I really did need or want better image quality than the Ricoh generates, I'd take the 5D, 50mm f/1.4, 24-105 mm zoom, and 580 flash. Oh, my aching back!

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    Interesting answers and rationale, all of you
    I got home tonite and have been playing with packing a small bag to see what would carry best.
    Of course the GRD, with both lenses, spare battery, charger and a tiny Sunpak slave flash beat every thing in the "bang for spac/weight" category.
    BTW, SLLDPI, thanks for the bag idea
    Ok my *final* answer;
    The GRD as above would be my choice.
    Possibly with the Pentax K100D and 50/1.4 for those low light moments.
    But the GRD would go with, regardless

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    I like to travel light so my first choice would probably be the GRD2, charger, 21, 40, an extra battery or two and some large memory cards.

    On the heavier side it would probably be the Oly E-420 with the Leica 14-150mm and one or two extra lenses. Something wide angle, so the 8mm fisheye. If I take another it would be the pancake or 50mm.

    Stuff clothes and camera into a pack a little smaller then your maximum legal carry and I'm ready to go.

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    Tough question. I'd probably go with film and take the OM-2N and Zuiko OM 40mm f/2 lens. That's just what I enjoy the most at the moment. Maybe the 5D with a 28mm prime for wide angle and low light. I reserve the right to change my answer in a week though, since a Fed Ex truck is currently bringing an E-420 and I have a DP1 on order with Canoga ;-).

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    Re: A bit of Survey

    I am on one (well, only China and back to Massachusetts).
    Two M8s
    CV12, WATE, 28/2 35/1.4, 50/2.5, CV75, 90/2 ASPH.
    All in one small bag
    Oh, and a DMC-LX2 in my pocket
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    Hi All,

    I would certainly take my M8. The lenses would be the hard choice ...

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    For film it would probably be my Oly XA (yes still use it and just brought a second spare on ebxx) (The QL17 backup maybe?)

    For digital it would be my Panasonic LC1 (the black D2) I have used it numerous times around the world and always take 3 batteries (and never need more than 1 and half..)
    Its much bigger than my Canon S400 which I originally got to be an always carry camera for putting on my belt but so much better (it always takes a picture whenever I hit the shutter even if [I'm/] its wrong!!)

    If I had space it would be the K10d (with M42 CZ/Pentacon lens...+an MTL or EE for backup) but with battery grip and real glass its a monster.

    cheers
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    (still dreaming of a GX100, except the LC1 is still going strong... and appears to have lower noise 8/ )

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    I would pick up my balck paint MP with a 28 cron and brick of TRX shoved in a DRIZ-abone Coat -in case it rained.

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    my little Gem........the grd 2 of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I know this'll make me unpopular in this forum, but the image quality of the M8 is what makes me want to use it more than the D-Lux 3. I look at photos from the little Leica and more often than not, I wish I'd taken them with the M8.
    as I've shot more with my K20d, I understand the sentiment. When I pixel peep, the files from the K20d are clearly better (pun intended).

    BUT, I just got back 16x20 prints of some of my shots from Hong Kong, all taken with the DLux3. All turned out stunning. And when I do a walkabout, I certainly have an easier time with the DLux3 than with the K20d, as I usually will want a couple of lenses with me (though I've had the new 35mm ltd macro on the camera solid since I got it last week).

    I played with an M8 last week. I didn't bond with it, and it isn't that much smaller than my K20d. It doesn't strike me as nearly as pocketable and portable on the street as the DLux3 or GR2. At some point I bet you'll rediscover it...

    Of course with all that on the recent trip to Yosemite I took both

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    as I've shot more with my K20d, I understand the sentiment. When I pixel peep, the files from the K20d are clearly better (pun intended).

    BUT, I just got back 16x20 prints of some of my shots from Hong Kong, all taken with the DLux3. All turned out stunning. And when I do a walkabout, I certainly have an easier time with the DLux3 than with the K20d, as I usually will want a couple of lenses with me (though I've had the new 35mm ltd macro on the camera solid since I got it last week).

    I played with an M8 last week. I didn't bond with it, and it isn't that much smaller than my K20d. It doesn't strike me as nearly as pocketable and portable on the street as the DLux3 or GR2. At some point I bet you'll rediscover it...

    Of course with all that on the recent trip to Yosemite I took both

    When I succumb to the pixel peeping mania, I find most cameras dissappointing My K100D with a good prime does the best then. However when I print to reasonable sizes I don't see the flaws anymore. I have to remind myself, how often does one really look at any image at the pixel level anyway?

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    Digital M8 and 35 IV Cron for a second lens the Nocti third 90 non-ASPH 'Cron

    Film M4 and use the same lenses.

    GR-DII is always in my pocket now anyway...

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    Since my GRD2 now has a place on my belt, I would have to bring it. I would have to bring my Sigma DP1, especially for strong-light exterior shots. That leaves my Canon 40D. I can't imagine not bringing it, the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lens, and the Canon 24-105 f/4 IS zoom. (If I'm not going to bring the 40D on a world tour, why the heck did I buy it?) Then again, the 40D is too large and heavy to trek around on a daily basis.

    OK, after objecting that this is a totally unfair question (I would try to bring all three), the order would probably be DP1, GRD2, and 40D. The more practical answer is I would bring both the GRD2 and DP1, and also pack the 40D and lenses, if there was room in the bag. If I could bring my lightweight tripod, that would help tilt the choice to the DP1 over the GRD2, though it would pain me to leave the GRD2 behind (can I hide it in a shoe?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    Since my GRD2 now has a place on my belt, I would have to bring it. I would have to bring my Sigma DP1, especially for strong-light exterior shots. That leaves my Canon 40D. I can't imagine not bringing it, the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lens, and the Canon 24-105 f/4 IS zoom. (If I'm not going to bring the 40D on a world tour, why the heck did I buy it?) Then again, the 40D is too large and heavy to trek around on a daily basis.

    OK, after objecting that this is a totally unfair question (I would try to bring all three), the order would probably be DP1, GRD2, and 40D. The more practical answer is I would bring both the GRD2 and DP1, and also pack the 40D and lenses, if there was room in the bag. If I could bring my lightweight tripod, that would help tilt the choice to the DP1 over the GRD2, though it would pain me to leave the GRD2 behind (can I hide it in a shoe?).
    re the shoe!

    other than the fact that i don't have the 40D, i have to agree with David. there's a part of me, though, that still leans towards the GRDII.... i think if you all are allowed your big cams with multiple lens, we should be allowed are two itty bitty ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    re the shoe!

    other than the fact that i don't have the 40D, i have to agree with David. there's a part of me, though, that still leans towards the GRDII.... i think if you all are allowed your big cams with multiple lens, we should be allowed are two itty bitty ones
    Actually I never mentioned a size or weight limit, just saying if you had five minutes to pack for this long trip which camera(s) would you take.

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    are those people minutes or dog minutes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    are those people minutes or dog minutes?

    ROFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili View Post
    Excellent choices, both of them.
    Excellent Cameras too naoip ^_^
    Hehe i fibbed a little there,i spied the Gr1v in my local shop and put a deposit on it ,pick it up Monday £150 seemed a steal..So i'm posting as if its mine

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    GRD2, but I would make sure I had enough on my CC to get an M8 somewhere on my travels!

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    I'll just grab my pouch, as it already contains what I consider as the "essentials" for carry-everywhere gear:

    - Ricoh GX8 + 22mm adapter lens + spirit level + cable release
    - Fuji F31
    - Minolta TR-1 mini-tripod

    That's it. My DSLR's would stay at home for this trip.

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