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    Just to say hello to everyone,

    this looks like a nice place.At the moment Im just a film user but am very interested in digital,especially the ricohs and the dp1.Sorry if this is in the wrong place,Neil.

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    Hi Neil,
    You're welcome. And this is certainly not the wrong place. As a film user do you use B&W film or colour? In my opinion the Ricoh's are really great for B&W.

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    Hi Niel, welcome to the Party

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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Nearly 100% black and white with rangefinder cameras ,50mm or35mm lenses.The gx100 looks great,Id also consider the dp1 if it had say a 40mm f2.8 . Thanks for the welcome!

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    Welcome Neil. Lots of great discussion here about those cameras. I agree with Wouter that the Ricohs are excellent for B&W work. Have you done any digital photography? Going from B&W film to B&W digital has its challenges as you probably know. For starters, the digital require one to expose somewhat more to the left (at least compared w/ film), and a certain amount of familiarity with digital postprocessing is generally needed to get the intended look. Have you seen the large GX100 thread started by Wouter in this forum?

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    Hi Amin,I have next to no experience with digital,all Ive done is to scan into photoshop7,on a friends computer, 3 negatives and then kept playing until the image looked more or less print like.Enjoyed it a lot.Its liberating when cost isnt involved! The gx100 thread is a treat,a real pleasure as is Mitch"s on the grd11 with the 40mm lens.Im tempted by this combination and if it wasnt for the fact that the 28 lens used "square"can be acceptable "to me"Id buy said combination and araldite it together.
    Thanks for the welcome Amin.

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    This is the 3rd photo(the other two are here and are 35mm)and was taken using a minox b.I think the sensor in the grd cameras is about the same size as a minox negative. http://flickr.com/photos/cornishman/2402651101/sizes/m/
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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by nei1 View Post
    I think the sensor in the grd cameras is about the same size as a minox negative.
    Hallo Neil, and welcome.

    As far as I remember, the sensor in the GRD/GX100 is about half the size of the minox [8 x 11 mm] negatives - yet much greater enlargements are possible.
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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Hi Neil,

    welcome to one of the most civil, interesting and photography focused forums around!

    Good luck with your choice for the jump to digital - there are some gifted users of the Ricoh around here... and I'm getting more and more experience with the DP1, plus I'm a long time user (> 6months! lol) of the Olympus E-400.

    I would recommend you have a play with the E-4x0 model + the 25mm f2.8 pancake (EFL 50mm).

    Where are you based?

    Kind Regards

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    [QUOTE=Robert Campbell;22470]Hallo Neil, and welcome.

    the sensor in the GRD/GX100 is about half the size of the minox [8 x 11 mm] negatives
    Then its even more of a marvel than I thought.Thanks for the welcome Bertie.

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    I have to agree about this forum Brian,I wish Id come here first.
    Im based in southern spain.

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    Welcome nei1

    There is no way to avoid the fact that we always find what we are looking for in the last place we look.

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    Thanks Will,very true,regards Neil.

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    Welcome to the forum.
    If you're interested in b&w but do not want to do any post processing on the computer the Ricoh GRD I b&w jpgs are the best you can get IMHO.

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    Thanks Vladimir for the advice and the welcome,it seems the closer you look at these cameras the more there is to see.

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    Hi Neil, welcome,

    I Agree with Vladimir on the GRD B%W JPGs, but I will also in the same sentence advice a digital newbie to try out Lightroom for its intuitive and easy to work with interface. The newly released free beta 2.0 incorporates local adjustments such as dodge and burn.

    I have the GRD with conversion lenses and if the GRDII was 40mm I would have gotten it a while ago by now. Of course, if you're prepared to throw out pixels, then maybe consider center cropping the 28 to 40 or whatever. Personally, a lot of the time I like to compose with the LCD on this camera and I would much prefer to use more of the screen than a stamp sized window for the 40. But you will likely find it a sweet camera to use with a 40mm VF attached, if you prefer that.

    Check out Sean's review site "Reid Reviews" on GX100, GRD1 and 2, DP1, digital RFs (RD1 and M8), lenses, essays, stuff.

    Thomas

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    Welcome Nei1
    I'm new here too and i'm in the same dilema position as you trying to choose between the Ricoh's, DP1 and a Leica.

    I've actually ruled out the DP1, the reviews of it dont exactly make me want to rush out and buy one.

    I grew up shooting film then when digital came along i moved to that - carrying a brick in my pocket. Over the years i found myself losing interest in photography as digital pics were too 'clinical' and didnt allow much creativeness within the camera.
    Ive been using photoshop for well over 10 years now so I can do lots with photos in post processing but sometimes its good to have something to great to start off with from the camera.

    I switched to film last year and have been shooting with a Holga and LC-A for their quirkyness and unique results - great for street photography.

    It was the Ricoh GRD that initially caught my eye as it was almost 'like' the digital version of the lc-a.

    This got me into weighing up the GRD/GRDII and the GX100.

    Ive been pixelpeeping at peoples pics on flickr and have noticed that the image quality of the GX100 is definitely more detailed than the GRD.
    The GRDII loses the "grain" that the GRD has. But the GX100 seems to be a good middleground.
    The little zoom on the GX100 is something i wouldnt use much but i would find it handy sometimes - esp when using the camera for more "touristy" photos.
    Features of the GX100 that attract me over the GRD (but without the pricetag of the GRDII) are being able to shoot RAW, square format 1:1, the "MY settings".

    I realy want to get te wide angle lens with the GX100 too so im currently shopping around for the best deal i can. Was hoping to play shops off of each other taking advantage of their "pricematching" policy but some shops have one in and not the other and vice versa.

    Lots of people on flickr groups are still trying to "big-up" the GR over the GX100 but i've still to see concrete evidence - from images - that makes me change my mind.

    I challenge anyone to make me change my mind :P

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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by The End Of Print View Post
    I've actually ruled out the DP1, the reviews of it dont exactly make me want to rush out and buy one.

    I challenge anyone to make me change my mind :P
    i'm not going to try and change your mind. you've obviously made it up already. i had done the same with the GRD and the GX100 just wouldn't do for me. when my GRD needed to be serviced, i bought the GRDII rather than the GX100. while there are times i wished i had a zoom, i prefer to shoot with a fixed (and razor sharp) lens. i don't regret my decision, neither should you with the GX100. the mind is a very strong thing as is the gut. go with it!

    a couple of points, though. first, the GX100 shoots 1:1 only in JPEG, not RAW. only the GRDII does it in RAW.

    the second thing is i think you're giving the DP1 short shrift. no doubt about it, it's fairly miserable and slow to use. coming from film as you are, though, it shouldn't bother you. the slowness, i mean. the misery is after you've gotten spoiled by the Ricohs but if you're truly looking for detail, i'm sorry to say but this is the one. and looking at the images you put up, they all had a wonderful bokeh that you just aren't going to get with a small sensor camera. with the DP1, you will get it with a DP1.

    whatever you choose, a hearty welcome to both you and Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The End Of Print View Post
    Ive been pixelpeeping at peoples pics on flickr and have noticed that the image quality of the GX100 is definitely more detailed than the GRD.
    The GRDII loses the "grain" that the GRD has. But the GX100 seems to be a good middleground.
    Those are very reasonable conclusions based on pixel peeping at Flickr, where the bulk of samples come from in-camera JPEGs. Whether in-camera JPEG or from RAW, the GRD I produces noise, the character of which I happen to like. Thus the samples on Flickr are charming (to me). The GRD II in-camera JPEGs have quite a bit of noise reduction applied, whereas the GX100 in-camera JPEGs are a good middleground IMO. However, in files processed from RAW, it seems to me that the GRD II and GX100 have a similar noise character. I believe that Sean Reid has done the most detailed analysis of files between those cameras. As you may know, Sean's site is www.reidreviews.com.

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    Thanks Thomas for the welcome,Ive thought about doing the same (not using all the sensor)for the dp1 by using the voightlander ovf that has both 28 and 35mm frames.Then composing as if it was a 35mm lens and cropping the file in post processing to that 35mm lens.Im not sure if the ricoh could stand such a crop(about a third of the sensor)but Im prepared to be convinced otherwise.-Neil

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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by thomasl.se View Post
    The newly released free beta 2.0 incorporates local adjustments such as dodge and burn.


    Check out Sean's review site "Reid Reviews" on GX100, GRD1 and 2, DP1, digital RFs (RD1 and M8), lenses, essays, stuff.
    Neil,

    Lightroom 2.0 is a beta, a trial to sort out bugs [at no cost to Adobe] and not recommended for saving work permanently. If you don't have a full copy of LR, version 2.0 will only work for 30 days.

    I find LR very easy to use -- it's intuitive but the present version doesn't have any local control, for which you need Photoshop [which I find very counter-intuitive and difficult] though LR 2.0 addresses some of these difficulties; others here suggest Silkypix and Aperture for the Mac - I don't have any experience of either.

    Sean Reid's reviews cost a bit - about $30 I think - and are very useful and thoughtful, even if I don't always agree with him
    Sláinte

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    Hi Cam,thanks for the welcome.I have tried to forgive the dp1 all its faults but Im still left with that massive red honeycomb whenever its pointed at a significant lightsource.
    Welcome to end of print too,lets see where we end up and with what camera,regards,Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nei1 View Post
    Hi Cam,thanks for the welcome.I have tried to forgive the dp1 all its faults but Im still left with that massive red honeycomb whenever its pointed at a significant lightsource.
    i'm in Paris where it's been raining more often the not (but i have had sun!), so i think i've had a total of one shot with the red honeycomb seriously, the DP1 is a pain to use, but the output is amazing. still, if i had to pick only one camera it would be the GRDII. it fits *my* style of street photography much better. there were shots that left me wanting, though, which is why i got the DP1 as well and i have not regretted it.

    as to your question if the GRDII can withstand the cropping, the answer is yes. unless you're planning to print really large (and even then the answer isn't definitive). it *is* that good of a camera.

    and i second Amin's recommendation to shoot RAW. i shot a lot of JPEG and lost photos because of it. the Ricohs love to blow highlights.

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    www.lightcrafts.com/ Bertie thanks for the help,Im going to try "lightzone" as it seems to work as I print.

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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by nei1 View Post
    Im going to try "lightzone" as it seems to work as I print.
    Very popular here, but I haven't used it.
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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Campbell View Post
    Lightroom 2.0 is a beta, a trial to sort out bugs [at no cost to Adobe] and not recommended for saving work permanently. If you don't have a full copy of LR, version 2.0 will only work for 30 days.
    Yes that's true of course. I should emphasize the reason I mentioned it here is all on merit of it's interface; as Adobe might put it, a good "kicking the tyres" experience for a newbie to digital PP.

    Regards,
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    if you're on a Mac, you can do a 30 day trial of Aperture.

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    Re: Just to say hello to everyone,

    Welcome aboard, Neil. I'm new here, too, but have already fallen in love with this forum. Terrific group of very talented and knowledgeable people. And they are exceptionally nice and helpful, too!

    Good luck with your camera choice, I just went through a similar process and ended up choosing an older model - Leica Digilux 2. It's not pocketable nor has the latest frills, but it has analog "film camers like" controls and a fabulous fast lens. Might be an easy transition to digi for you (?)

    Best regards,
    Joan

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    Thanks Joan,Ill have a look,Neil.

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