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    Ricoh GRD I Forum

    I thought it might be helpful to start a thread specifically dedicated to those of us not upgrading from the GRD I to II, or those of us with new GRD I's. Also, this may help to not confuse folks looking for information specifically related to the GRD II on the other thread. Please, let me know what you think.

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    Re: Ricoh GRD I Forum

    Mark,

    Good idea, there will always be a demand for a GRD only aspect especially now Ricoh have released the new firmware to upgrade some GRD features to GRD2 capability.

    I suspect also that quite a few GRD leavers have been encouraged back by the new model, either to reinstate their use of the GRD or to upgrade to the new model either way it appears to have regenerated interest.

    I also believe that as this site implies, these cameras (as the likes of Mitch Alland) has proclaimed for a long time are the new "format" in digital cameras - they are very small, inconspicuous in many cases, have good controls and produce very good quality images - their benefits above all encourage and challenge photographers to use them in a slightly different way and the results can be both exciting and challenging, a new genre of an old medium = rejuvination.

    Can only be a positive (no pun intended)thing!

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    Mark,
    Having just got my GRD a couple of months ago, it will be a bit before I even think about the GRD II.
    Now the GT-1, I will get as soon as it's available!
    Thanks for starting this thread!

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    Lili,

    Did you mean the DP-1 (ie - the Sigma)? BTW - Very nice cat picture. The framing, lighting and overall mood is great!

    Take care.

    Mark T.

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    I hope you don't mind Lili; but, I thought the cat would look great in B&W:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Turney View Post
    Lili,

    Did you mean the DP-1 (ie - the Sigma)? BTW - Very nice cat picture. The framing, lighting and overall mood is great!

    Take care.

    Mark T.
    Mark, thank you so much!

    I would love to get a Sigma DP-1 if/when they ever show up!
    By GT-1 I was referring to the 40mm adapter for the GRD I/II.
    I have the GW-1 already
    I wish tho that the DP-1 or perhaps another camera would come out with a model as sturdy as my much loved Konica Hexar AF.
    The fixed lens barrell, especially when covered by a B&W KR1.5 MC filter is virtually sealed and dust proof.
    Of course such would make a GRD or DP-1 far less pocketable...

    As to the B&W coversion of my shot, that looks very good.
    I am newbie to PP'ing so just learning the ropes.
    Photoshop has a steep learning curve for me!
    One thing I adore about the GRD is the ability to control so much in-camera while shooting JPEG's so I got spoiled quite fast

    Edit;
    More info, I have only just now gotten into playing with RAW and that on my Fuji S5200 (a vastly underrated small sensor superzoom, RAW and full manual controls tho nowhere near as superb as those on the GR's). The freeware S7RAW works wonderfuly well with its files and the camera and software have helped whet my appetite for learning this part of the workflow.
    I have just now gotten PS CS2 and have started doing this with my GRD.
    So I am far behind the rest of you all in this regards, but I am willing to learn!
    Last edited by Lili; 10th December 2007 at 10:26.

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    Re: Ricoh GRD I Forum

    The B&W possibilty and the fast operation in SNAP resp. infinity mode combined with the film grain and high detail level are the reasons why i stay with the GRD I

    Some shots done on the street while shopping...

    http://picasaweb.google.de/kweide/ShoppingTrapani

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    Re: Ricoh GRD I Forum

    Hi all... I just arrived here on this forum and my new/used Gr just arrived last week. Was wondering about this GR thread. Would one not then end up with a huge, long thread ?? Would this not function better as a Sub-Forum in order for it to work well?

    Please explain if there is something I am not understanding.
    Last edited by veriwide; 10th December 2007 at 13:37. Reason: further thoughs

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    There are other GRD and GX100 threads on this forum. Just click on "Forum Home" on the top of this thread and then click on "4/3rds and Small Sensor Cameras", or go there by clicking on the following link:

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32

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    Re: Ricoh GRD I Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Turney View Post
    I thought it might be helpful to start a thread specifically dedicated to those of us not upgrading from the GRD I to II, or those of us with new GRD I's.
    i had to upgrade much sooner than expected... i will be joining you here, however, when my GRD comes back from service. i love the GRDII, but was madly in love with the original.

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    Now on my 3rd GR D1, gave up on the others as I just couldn't get decent pictures,but.............. I keep coming back to it. I think I should lower my expectations and use it for what it is intended. I will probably stick to B & W
    I'm would like to know from more seasoned users, what I should avoid and what I should implement.
    My current settings:I use 200 ISO only, set to aperture priority and set the aperture to f3.5. Shoot only raw and set focus to Snap.
    Is there anything else I should do ??
    With Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iansky View Post

    Good idea, there will always be a demand for a GRD only aspect especially now Ricoh have released the new firmware to upgrade some GRD features to GRD2 capability.
    Does anyone know where I could find out which GRD features can be upgraded please?

    I tried looking at the Ricoh website only to find that both the GRD and GRD II now have 4x optical zooms fitted.

    My credit card is trembling for a GRD at the moment and Christmas is fast approaching.
    Last edited by tucker; 10th December 2007 at 20:41.

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    About ten days ago I got the GRD2 and have been thinking whether I should keep my GRD. In another thread comparing the GRD vs GRD2 and GX100 cameras I wrote that I like the GRD2 at ISO400 and 800 but much prefer the GRD at ISO200 to the GRD2 at this speed. Perhaps I'll keep the GRD to shoot at ISO200. Below is a GRD picture at ISO200 followed by a GRD2 one at the same speed:










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    [QUOTE=tucker;3319]

    I tried looking at the Ricoh website only to find that both the GRD and GRD II now have 4x optical zooms fitted.

    QUOTE]

    Sorry - that should read 4x digital zoom - my typo and lack of product knowledge - still learning about this camera.

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    FWIW - I don't think you'll find too many folks using digital zoom - I can't think of any experienced photographer who does. You're much better off, IMHO, cropping in the PC where you have better interpolation routines and better overall control of sharpening and other pp. That's not to say don't use it; I shoot jpeg frequently when I 'm shooting for family outings and not for artistic endeavors. But, even if I shoot jpeg only, I still crop in the computer.

    Mark T.

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    Hi Mark - Thanks for your response. I was surprised to find it even had a digital zoom feature considering its target market.

    It's not a feature I would plan to use unless there were exceptional circumstances. A crop in the PC is the way I work at present.

    The more I read about this cameras ability and the results I see from loyal, enthusiastic followers the more I think it is the one for me.

    I don't mind working hard to get the best out of a camera and I am not looking for the simplicity of a standard point and shoot type.

    I was disappointed to find at this price level that the battery charger is not included as standard and is an optional extra. Most odd.

    I still may bite the bullet and buy before Christmas if I can't wait for the January sales that is. Kind regards Tucker

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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    ...I was disappointed to find at this price level that the battery charger is not included as standard and is an optional extra. Most odd...
    No, there's some misunderstanding here: the battery charger is is indeed included, as you can see if you download the manual from here:

    http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/support/manual/grd.html

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    Thanks for the link Mitch - my local photo shop had told me it was an optional extra. Much appreciated. You should be the dealer - you have more knowledge and experience. I'd rather buy from you than him. Tucker

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    I bought mine in Paris about ten days ago: the dealer was very helpful and knowledgeable. Another denizen of this forum, Cam, directed me to him. A small shop, he ordered as far as I know the most GRD2's in France because he is an enthusiast and knows he can sell the cameras. I'll put his coordinates down here for anyone interest in Paris — and I should say that I have no connection to him:

    His name is Marcel

    L'INSTANTANE
    40, Bd Beaumarchais
    75011 PARIS

    Métro Chemin Vert
    Téléphone : +33 (0) 1.43.55.02.32

    The shop is a few doors away from La Maison du Leica.

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    Marcel was the first dealer in France to receive a shipment of the GRDIIs and also has got the last of the original GRDs for sale. he will also be the first to get in the 40mm adaptor.

    i have no connection with him either. it was simply the only shop in Paris i could find that stocked *all* the Ricohs so i could play and test and compare. he is lovely to work with and way more knowledgeable than most because of his love (and personal use) of the brand.

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    OK Mark and Mitch - now you've done it.

    My wife wants your names and addresses to pay you both a visit.

    I placed an order for the GRD + Creative Kit today and after I left the house the shop rang to discuss the order.

    Sadly, I had forgotten to tell my wife about my new camera from Tucker to Tucker.

    She is now demanding to spend a similar amount on shoes before Christmas.

    Thanks guys. Thanks a lot

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    You made me laugh tucker. I'll be in a similar situation if the Sigma DP-1 ever arrives...especially if it's just past the New Year. My 15 year wedding anniversary is Jan 9th, so I hope the DP-1 is released much after that. Get some brownie-points with a good anniversary present first; then I should be OK for a new toy ... ;-)

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    Judging from the last announcement from the head of Sigma, I don't think we'll see the Dp-1 until next Spring or Summer, at the earliest. It kind of sounded like they were starting over from scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    OK Mark and Mitch - now you've done it.

    My wife wants your names and addresses to pay you both a visit.

    I placed an order for the GRD + Creative Kit today and after I left the house the shop rang to discuss the order.

    Sadly, I had forgotten to tell my wife about my new camera from Tucker to Tucker.

    She is now demanding to spend a similar amount on shoes before Christmas.

    Thanks guys. Thanks a lot
    When she comes I'll hide in the bathroom so she can discuss shoes and handbags with my wife.

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    Mitch, are you shooting your GRD-1 in RAW or JPG?

    In RAW, do you find the buffer speed (or lack thereof) to be much of an impediment?

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    I'm shooting the GRD in RAW, and, of course the 14 second wrote time is very long, but I generally don't need to shoot shots in quick succession — so it's a matter of philosophy or psychology, or just plain patience, which becomes difficult after shooting with the GRD2.

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    The tower in the sun;-))



    some have been asking for colour-pics - from this summers holiday.
    Have a nice weekend.

    Elllemand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Alland View Post
    I'm shooting the GRD in RAW, and, of course the 14 second wrote time is very long
    It sure is a long 14s, Mitch. Get your 8s with Lexar 133x; RAW+N640. Or 4s on 2 GRDs (don't remember now but I think it was two Olympic P&S Alex Majoli used in switch mode to halve the sluggish RAW write time.

    Thomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasl.se View Post
    don't remember now but I think it was two Olympic P&S Alex Majoli used in switch mode to halve the sluggish RAW write time.
    As far as I know Majoli didn't use RAW on his Oly cam's, but jepgs instead. I have a Olympus as wel, an older C4000z, and the write times for jpegs are almost 5 seconds. His switch mode was switching between to cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbrandsma View Post
    His switch mode was switching between to cameras.
    What did I say?

    One vote for Majoli JPG and one for RAW Only kidding. Point is there are ways to work considerably fater than 14s with GRD RAW.

    THomas

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    i have the M8 for the best part of the year now and wanted a pocketable small sensor camera..had the grd1 for a few weeks now and love it!
    here a shot I posted on the other site...by the way I messed up in registering, on the Lieca forum I am andym911...

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    I love hwo your captured the reflection in the puddle... Brian.

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    Brian thanks for the comment..and one more color shot for the day.

    andy

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    and one more from my daughters school.

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    and a couple of black and whites ....

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    Hi everyone.

    I wish you all a happy new year with this picture from a cold morning in Denmark.
    Looking forward to see more of your pictures in 2008.

    Ricoh GRD - 100 ISO - jpeg.


    Cheeers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Alland View Post
    When she comes I'll hide in the bathroom so she can discuss shoes and handbags with my wife.

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    Shoes, shopping, handbags - it's all I can do to keep her in cold, wet and windy England - Happy New Year Mitch. My GRD has arrived and I'm loving it.

    Hope to post some pics in the New Year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Turney View Post
    You made me laugh tucker. I'll be in a similar situation if the Sigma DP-1 ever arrives...especially if it's just past the New Year. My 15 year wedding anniversary is Jan 9th, so I hope the DP-1 is released much after that. Get some brownie-points with a good anniversary present first; then I should be OK for a new toy ... ;-)
    Well the GRD has arrived and it is really great - I love it already. Happy New Year Mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orliekim View Post
    i have the M8 for the best part of the year now and wanted a pocketable small sensor camera..had the grd1 for a few weeks now and love it!
    here a shot I posted on the other site...by the way I messed up in registering, on the Lieca forum I am andym911...
    If you want to fix that let me know I can change it . Just send me the current name and what you want it to be and password and i can make that change. Just send me a PM
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    I love the fact that my GRD can go anywhere with me and catch whatever I see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili View Post
    I love the fact that my GRD can go anywhere with me and catch whatever I see
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    Hi you all.

    Lili; you're right, it's a lovely camera to carry everywhere;-)

    Here are to pics from Paris - both with the Ricoh GRD.
    I wish you all a good weekend.






    Cheers

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    Hi again.

    One more from my trip to Paris.

    Title: To close.... (Ricoh GRD).



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    Re: Ricoh GRD I Forum

    your last pic reminded me of another huge (if silly) difference between the GRD and the GRDII. the original is a dog magnet! i had to get the initial shot right and immediate or i'd have a snout up my lens. the auto focus obviously has some high frequency they're attracted to.

    fantastic photos, everybody! it makes me happy i was able to pick up my GRD and start shooting with it again. although i have a GRDII as well, it has been missed!

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    Re: JPEG or RAW?

    Hi all,

    Normally I shoot only RAW with my Digital cameras..M8 and Canon.

    Recently however I tried shooting straight JPEG B&W and am really surprised with the out of camera quality.

    Just made a few prints in 10x8 and I find them excellent, tonal range, good blacks etc.

    Do you also shoot JPEG or work with RAW on the GRD....just curious?

    thanks

    Andy

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    Orlekim,
    I have almost always shot JPEG
    In fact a major reason I got my GRD was the degree of in-camera image control even in JPEG.
    I have only very recently started experimenting with RAW, in the GRD and my K100D.


    Ellemand,
    Very nice B&W street work!

    Cam,
    I've not noticed if the GRD draws dogs or not, will have to experiment

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    Hi out there.

    It's been a while, since I've uploaded a GRD-picture - so here you are:



    Cheers
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    It's pay-time...



    No one else with GRD-pics..?

    Cheers
    Ellemand.

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    This is my first post but I've been following this forum for a while.
    Good to see a forum with very informative and most important very civilized discussions.

    Here's a color GRD picture, who says small sensor cameras have a limited dynamic range . This is a jpg from the camera where I just aplied 10/10 in the Shadow/Highlight tool in PS CS3. If I would use the RAW file I am sure I could get more out of it.

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