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    Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    I think the XZ-1 fits into this section because of sensor size, although IQ might easily exceed the typically offered quality by such cameras .....

    Anyway, dpreview has published a sample gallery:

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/1101/11...xz1samples.asp

    I like the shots, even the ISO1600 ones.

    Check it out!

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    Nothing world-moving ... you can make such pictures with 100 other cameras too.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Nothing world-moving ... you can make such pictures with 100 other cameras too.
    Well, I do not think that there are many cameras as small and compact which can do similar pictures. That's the whole concept of the XZ-1

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Sharpness at f/1.8 is rather impressive if you ask me. Looks promising, and convenient to have a p&s that can share external flash with m43 and/or Olympus DSLRs. Absolutely a serious alternative to G12/S95/LX5.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    It seems that only the S95 is small enough to get into any pocket.
    Now the XZ1 might have a better IQ overall, wait & see more pictures.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Hmmm... I wonder if those are all right? The ISO 100 samples I saw almost looked like they had gone through heavy noise reduction. My S95 low ISO shots are much clearer and sharper than that. Maybe the final version of the camera will be better. Hope so, because I have heard so much about the Olympus JPGs and would like to try one of their cameras.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    It's weird not to see anyone here with this camera. From what I've all over the web the consensus is that this camera is THE compact camera to have (beating the LX5, S95, G12, LT500).

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    I have owned the LX5, S90, G11, X1, Nex3 and several others, and the XZ-1 with the VF2 EVF is the best of them all for me. Great image quality, f/1.8 speed, outstanding viewfinder, lens ring, compact size, zoom lens, fantastic build quality. It's a keeper.

    This is a tough shot for any camera and the XZ-1 did a great job. Handheld, 1/20 sec., f/3.2, ISO200. This is 100%...


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    The shot does look good. Do you have any iso 1600 samples? It would also be cool to see some high contrast shots to check how it does when it comes to dynamic range.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Here's an ISO 1600 shot in the worst possible lighting conditions. 100% size.



    And here's a hi contrast shot, not good photographically, but lots of dynamic range.


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    not bad this xz1, wondering though if the skin tones in the iso 1600 shot looks a little plastic looking due to excessive in camera noise reduction?

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    I used Lightroom's noise reduction in those skin tones. I was looking for less noise and willing to give a little in skin texture. Don't get me wrong, this is no Nikon D3 or Canon 1Dm4 when it comes to high ISO noise, but it's darn good for a pocket zoom point and shoot, which is why I bought it. The fantastic EVF makes all the difference for me. I don't like shooting at arm's length. If and when Panasonic replaces the mediocre VF-1 with the EVF from the GH-2 then we're talking...

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    Hi,
    this is a shot with f2.0, 1/60 and Iso 1000 @Memphis Beale Street, TN.
    Got the blue hour, happy with that cam.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Handled the XZ at my local Wolf Camera, bought it.
    Sigh, love fast glass!!!!!

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Lili, you won't regret it. It has replaced my LX5. Get the EVF right away. It's what seals the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Lili, you won't regret it. It has replaced my LX5. Get the EVF right away. It's what seals the deal.
    Brad thanks! Had VF-2 already, use it with long lenses on my E-PL1

    I iz Oly Addict!!!!!!!

    Seriously the compatibility with the VF-2 and the very fast lenses sealed the deal. Once I held it in my hand (big advantage of brick-and-mortar-stores) I was lost....

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Full Frame

    Shot hand-held at 112mm-e, F2.5, 1/13 sec, using the VF-2 helped stabilize this low light image at ISO 400

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    bradhusick ,nice shot .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinwen View Post
    It seems that only the S95 is small enough to get into any pocket.
    Now the XZ1 might have a better IQ overall, wait & see more pictures.
    almost looked like they had gone through heavy noise reduction

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    >and the XZ-1 with the VF2 EVF is the best of them all for me.

    What did you not like so much of the LX5 (besides the EVF, the Olympus is better, yes)?
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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    The LX5 is a fine camera, but the XZ-1 + VF2 is better. I like the function ring, the lens speed, ease of use.
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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    We are currently checking out eh XZ-1. First results:



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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Im very disappointed that Olympus hasn't made the front dial user assignable. I typically prefer to keep the camera wide open (not much point stopping down a compact) and shoot in Av mode. What I do adjust is the EC or the zoom position and would love to be able to do either of those with the front dial like the s95.

    I really enjoy the fast lens on the camera but its lack of user customization is a bit sad on a $500 camera that seems targeted towards more advanced photographers.

    Additionally not being able to adjust the NR levels is also something I find rather lacking given its price, as even my cheapest p&s's allow a high/med/low adjustment. I find the XZ1 is set way too strong for my liking as robs a bit of detail it could otherwise produce.

    Not a bad camera at all, however, one that could be really great with a few tweaks that I don't think are coming.

    Overall I think I'm happier with the s95 as its just a bit easier to use, dispite the slower lens

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    The XZ-1 is a lot of fun to use.







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    Hi Uwe,
    great images. Dont look like from a small sensor camera.
    How do you like the xz1 so far?
    And an off topic question: How did you feel about IQ between the m4/3 and the GXR?
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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    >How do you like the xz1 so far?

    Quite a bit. More images here:

    http://outbackphoto.smugmug.com/DOPF.../Olympus-XZ-1/


    >And an off topic question: How did you feel about IQ between the m4/3 and the GXR?

    The GXR images from a12 modules are excellent in my opinion. I like the S10 module image quality but not the AF for the S10 module.

    Here are our GXR photos:

    http://outbackphoto.smugmug.com/DOPF...sts/Ricoh-GXR/
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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Hi Uwe,

    I prefer the look of the XZ1 images. Wonderful, awesome, great! Especially when considering what a small and compact camera that is!

    I still resisted to buy one so far, but might not much longer, as I also have all the other credentials like the VF2 etc.

    Keep showing samples!

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    Color and tonality looks really nice.

    One reads different things about sharpness. on dpreview the xz1 images look quite sharp and clear/ some other guyes say IQ is a little soft.

    I find the fast aparture of the lens a clear advantage over some other smal cams.

    I dont know if I want to put an EVF on such a camera. Makes it kind of big for a pocket camera.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    I think the EVF makes this camera the best one out there. I just hate shooting at arm's length. The Oly EVF is so sweet.

    Two other accessories I'd suggest: the Franiec grip and the auto-open-close lens cap available on ebay:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Self-Retaining-A...ht_1970wt_1008
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    >I think the EVF makes this camera the best one out there.

    We compared it to the Panasonic EVF on a GF1 and the Olympus EVF wins hands down.

    >I just hate shooting at arm's length.

    Bad for so many reasons: Not stable, harder framing and in sun useless

    The first P&S camera I liked to use was the Ricoh GXR with S10 module. THe AF was not reliable in lower contrast situation and this would be a deal breaker. So far the XZ-1 is the first P&S camera I really enjoy to use.
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    >I dont know if I want to put an EVF on such a camera. Makes it kind of big for a pocket camera.

    True, but for me it actually makes it a camera. I really cannot work seriously without an eye level viewfinder.



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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    The more I see stuff shot with this camera the more it looks like THE best serious compact in the market.

    Now lets dream for a while....how incredible would it have been if it carried a micro 4/3 sensor?

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    >how incredible would it have been if it carried a micro 4/3 sensor?

    Much bigger with the same kind of lens :-)


    These are my criteria for compact P&S:

    - Raw
    - Not really regretting that I did not take the bigger gear (means nice image quality)
    - Fun to use (this includes a decent EVF for me)

    As of now it looks as if the XZ-1 fits the bill.



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    ustein, nice shots.
    I have been doing RAW exclusively processing OV2 and SilkyPix.

    I really think the XZ-1 brings unmatched IQ for its size and fast lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamamike View Post
    Hi,
    this is a shot with f2.0, 1/60 and Iso 1000 @Memphis Beale Street, TN.
    Got the blue hour, happy with that cam.
    When I look at your photo, I see people with no faces. This is evidence that the smearing of fine detail is still a problem with the XZ-1.

    Can somebody point me to some ORF files? I'd like to try them in Lightroom to see if RAW is the answer.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Maybe you look here (we hardly ever photograph people :-) ). Also this is not a camera to be used at higher ISO. But you easily can use wider apertures.


    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...1_review.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    Maybe you look here (we hardly ever photograph people :-) ). Also this is not a camera to be used at higher ISO. But you easily can use wider apertures.
    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...1_review.shtml
    It was Michael's favorable comments at Luminous Landscape which caused me to revisit this Forum. I had an XZ-1 when they first became available, but returned it to the store after three days of ownership because of the IQ issue.

    I greatly admire Olympus cameras. I want to be convinced that I got a bad XZ-1 sample, and if that happens I will readily buy another one.

    I didn't have Lightroom when I had the XZ-1, so I didn't shoot much RAW with it during those few days. But I do have Lightroom now, so any RAW files would be easy for me to process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Ostling View Post
    When I look at your photo, I see people with no faces. This is evidence that the smearing of fine detail is still a problem with the XZ-1.

    Can somebody point me to some ORF files? I'd like to try them in Lightroom to see if RAW is the answer.
    If you like Allan, I can send an ORF file or two.
    I usemy XZ-1 in RAW exclusively.

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    >I use my XZ-1 in RAW exclusively.Me too and also stay a low ISO.
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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Anyone notice an issue where the LCD takes on a bit of a color shift when viewed from other than a straight on angle ?

    If I'm holding mine about chest height and looking down on the LCD I often notice it taking on a bit of a green cast, which is odd, as I've never really seen this on any other LCD before.

    Any thoughts ?


    The not being able to configure the control ring on the lens is still really bothering me as well. The control dial on the back is so small and finicky its really an annoying way to have to adjust the EC values and still try to keep a good grip on the camera. Perhaps Richards grip could help the handling in that regard

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    Yes, the OLED is having some color cast when viewed from other than 90 degree. But it is pretty minimal.

    I love this camera! Much better than any of my Dlux-xyz cam's, 2 of them are already gone of this reason.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Found a replacement for those silly German cameras, Jono?

    When seeing the results here, I keep asking myself if I really need more than a XZ-1 for travel. Lots of lovely photos here. Is there any noise at low ISO/long exposures? Anybody tried?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Found a replacement for those silly German cameras, Jono?

    When seeing the results here, I keep asking myself if I really need more than a XZ-1 for travel. Lots of lovely photos here. Is there any noise at low ISO/long exposures? Anybody tried?


    ISO 320, f2.5, 1/2 sec, handheld.

    Ustein, yes, I never go over ISO 320, actually given the lens speed ISO 200 is pretty much all I need.

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    So the question is do I upgrade the LX3 to a LX5 or XZ-1?
    Not to worried about 24v28mm end of the zoom.
    Me thinks LX5 has have the edge on video but there again you can't plug a mike into it which I believe you can in the Olympus
    Confusion reigns.

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    Jono,

    Very crisp results - you seem to have got the hang of the XZ-1..............and the M9 and others as evidenced by your website. All excellent stuff.

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    Re: Olympus XZ-1 Samples

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Found a replacement for those silly German cameras, Jono?
    That's the one Jorgen

    When seeing the results here, I keep asking myself if I really need more than a XZ-1 for travel. Lots of lovely photos here. Is there any noise at low ISO/long exposures? Anybody tried?[/QUOTE]

    Well, I'd rather the K5 with the 18-135 personally, but I can see that it's feasible.

    Here are some from last night:

    here comes the Auricula!


    . . . and the first wild raspberry on the fen


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    Jono, Great Stuff there.
    I agree with you on the XZ-1 as an only travel camera

    This is basically straight out of camera, save RAW to jpeg, cropping and a tiny bit of sharpening.

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