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    Re: GRII versus LX2/D-Lux 3

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    Tim, I don't agree with this. Long exposure at low ISO is a valid and useful photographic technique. I do, however, think it is possible that the-D-LUX 3 is smearing RAW file shadow detail selectively on long exposures. This is certaainly done with in-camera JPEGs in some cameras. However, Bjorn demonstrated similar if less impressive results using a different RAW converter and with much faster shutter speeds here.
    Hi Amin
    Am I right in thinking that Bjorn is only using Silky Pix? and that he is using an LX2 and not a D-lux3? (just for the record you know).

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    I received the LX2. It is a nicer camera than I thought. It feels nice in the hand, handles well and the controls are pretty easy to get to and use. The LCD is bright and easy to see outside. It shows fingerprints easy though. I haven't had much time to check the image quality but here is one photo. I am not sure about how much I will use the 16:9 format. I have a Panny FZ7 that has it and don't use it much on that camera. It could grow on me though as this will be my carry most everywhere camera. So I will get the chance to use it alot. I know that I am pretty much behind the curve as this is an old camera in the digital age but I am really waiting for the GX200 that I am hoping Ricoh will bring out in a year or so.

    From what I can tell Panny doesn't have any firmware updates for anything but their DSLR.

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    Re: GRII versus LX2/D-Lux 3

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    I received the LX2. It is a nicer camera than I thought. It feels nice in the hand, handles well and the controls are pretty easy to get to and use. The LCD is bright and easy to see outside. It shows fingerprints easy though. I haven't had much time to check the image quality but here is one photo. I am not sure about how much I will use the 16:9 format. I have a Panny FZ7 that has it and don't use it much on that camera. It could grow on me though as this will be my carry most everywhere camera. So I will get the chance to use it alot. I know that I am pretty much behind the curve as this is an old camera in the digital age but I am really waiting for the GX200 that I am hoping Ricoh will bring out in a year or so.

    From what I can tell Panny doesn't have any firmware updates for anything but their DSLR.
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    Re: GRII versus LX2/D-Lux 3

    Jono- You are totally whacked
    you're comment re: his legs had me hysterical
    I nearly fell off the chair
    Cheers! helen

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    Re: GRII versus LX2/D-Lux 3

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    Hi Amin
    Am I right in thinking that Bjorn is only using Silky Pix? and that he is using an LX2 and not a D-lux3? (just for the record you know).
    Hi Jono, Bjorn has posted examples from Silkypix and Adobe Camera RAW (v3.6 IIRC). For the record, he was using an LX2 and not a D-LUX 3. If anyone can show a significant difference between RAW files from those or other PanaLeica pairings, they'd have a nice newsworthy discovery to share =). Bjorn is currently using a GX100 (and a D300 I think?).

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    Chuck - you need to eat more - your legs are even skinnier than mine
    Good one Jono . But you wouldn't know it by looking at me! But seriously this is a nice little camera with lots of potential. I will have to find some way to test the smearing issue.

    I think that Amin is correct. People have been talking about differences in the Leica vs the Panny siblings since the pairings started and I have yet to see any credible evidence of a notable difference in image quality.

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    Re: GRII versus LX2/D-Lux 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck A View Post
    Good one Jono . But you wouldn't know it by looking at me! But seriously this is a nice little camera with lots of potential. I will have to find some way to test the smearing issue.

    I think that Amin is correct. People have been talking about differences in the Leica vs the Panny siblings since the pairings started and I have yet to see any credible evidence of a notable difference in image quality.
    Hi Chuck
    Well - I think it was pretty well established that the V-Lux used a 'lighter touch' than the panny equivalent - at least for jpgs.

    Mind you, after 3 days with a d-lux3 I'm seeing smearing in the raw files as well as the jpgs . . . . . . . but I'm not sure that it's very realistic to go pixelpeeping aggressively with a 400 camera and comparing it with a 3000 camera . . . .

    I almost bought a gx100 today to do some real comparisons, and then I had a reality check!

    I think the image quality is 'useable' from both of them, my big question is whether the cameras are 'useable'

    . . . . . . .but I still think you have thin legs

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    Re: GRII versus LX2/D-Lux 3

    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Jono- You are totally whacked
    you're comment re: his legs had me hysterical
    I nearly fell off the chair
    Cheers! helen
    Hi Helen
    I'm usually whacked (hic)
    I hope that no damage ensued (I'm skint from buying Leica lenses and couldn't handle a claim for damages).

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