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    New Panasonic TS1

    With the release of a number of tough cameras and the nicer weather I decided to pick one up. I want to have some fun with it at the beach, underwater, etc. I will test it a bit over the weekend (side by side with a Ricoh G600 that I got off ebay).

    The Panny camera can go 3 meters deep for an hour, can be dropped etc.

    Here are my first couple of test shots. The wide end is definitely sharper than the tele end.

    I am not used to doing work in Lightroom on JPEGs and dang there is a reason to shoot RAW and beat up your files. Have to be careful here as things can get ugly in a hurry).

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    Hi Terry,

    thanks for posting these. I looked at both the Olympus Tough samples and some from the Pana TS1 and I think IMHO that the TS1 IQ was a lot better. Also the TS1 does 720P video.

    How do you find using the TS1? Is it quick through the menus? is there much shutter lag? There was some reports that the Olympus suffered it bit with slowness?

    I am thinking about one of these as a combo, use at the beach and for the kids to use.

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    No real menus to get through. i haven't read the manual yet so over the weekend I should know more. iA, intelligent auto, really works quite well so far so it could indeed be great for the kids.

    This is also really a true pocket camera with no case as you don't need to worry about a lens cap, the auto lens cap with blades that can get messed up etc.

    I think the tele end is impacted bi diffraction on slow lens with very high pixel density on tiny sensor.

    But still with negatives it is pretty interesting

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    I'm interested to hear your impressions of this camera too. I've been helping a friend shop for a camera for his trip and this is at the top of his list right now. Any thoughts you have on the video features would be welcome.
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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    I'm not an experienced video person but I'm happy to take some in either format and send it to you (I can do big files). There are two format choices AVCHD lite and motion jpeg. I know there are benefits and problems in dealing with both (mjpeg - huge files, avchd - editing software but great direct to Panny/Sony tv). Changing back and forth is simple! They put the format choice right it in the quick menu. Also dedicated stop start of video button very! convenient.

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    By the way, This is the FT1 model in some areas of the world (where video length is limied to 15 minutes)

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    So you got one. Looks pretty nice. We looked at these cams at PMA. Pretty nice little camera
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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    So you got one. Looks pretty nice. We looked at these cams at PMA. Pretty nice little camera
    Yeah, I was looking for something for the beach that i wasn't putting into multiple ziplock bags. I also thought this might be interesting in the nooks and crannies of the rocks seaweed and other critters under the water at low tide down the coast a bit. will try it out this weekend. Prob down in Carmel area this AM. Low tide midday so light for underwater.

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    Sounds good have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Yeah, I was looking for something for the beach that i wasn't putting into multiple ziplock bags. I also thought this might be interesting in the nooks and crannies of the rocks seaweed and other critters under the water at low tide down the coast a bit. will try it out this weekend. Prob down in Carmel area this AM. Low tide midday so light for underwater.
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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    The wide end looks extremely sharp as does the telephoto side after a little PP. Looks like a good camera to have for general purposes and vacations.
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    kweide, wow it is really sharp! These underwater cameras are indeed very capable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I'm not an experienced video person but I'm happy to take some in either format and send it to you (I can do big files). There are two format choices AVCHD lite and motion jpeg. I know there are benefits and problems in dealing with both (mjpeg - huge files, avchd - editing software but great direct to Panny/Sony tv). Changing back and forth is simple! They put the format choice right it in the quick menu. Also dedicated stop start of video button very! convenient.

    Hi Terry,

    I'd be keen to see a sample in AVCHD Lite format. How can I get one?
    Thanks

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    If you can wait a day I will take some tomorrow and either post it on my iDisk and give you the link or I can email it. Let me take it and see how big it is to link it. I think this camera will do better in daylight is that OK for the video or would you prefer the video underwater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    If you can wait a day I will take some tomorrow and either post it on my iDisk and give you the link or I can email it. Let me take it and see how big it is to link it. I think this camera will do better in daylight is that OK for the video or would you prefer the video underwater?
    I'd like to see some best case capability so just regular daylight will be fine. Thank you again. There does not seem to be any samples on the net yet?

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    The fog is now lifting. Time to head down the coast and see how this little baby can do.

    About 9AM straight from the camera iA mode

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    This camera is INSANELY good at wide angle in iA mode. Two shots had a curves adjustment. All of the histograms were perfect...

    I have lightroom set to do standard sharpening for screen output when I reduce size. I know sometime the forum software sharpens a bit more. These probably don't need anything in the export to jpeg process
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    The white dot in the sky is left in for Jack....It is a blimp....Jack it follows me where ever I roam

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    This was at 55mm and I did a bit of a curves adjustment. Need to do some work figuring out the differences with this camera between wide and tele

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    Had to paly a little cat and mouse with the fog a few times. The white on the right is the fog coming in. Doesn't bother me because I know what the scene was like. What do you think

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    My God Terry, that is awesomely good! Even for a non-folded-optics camera!!
    Brava!!!!
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    Really nice images Terry, this camera performs much better than expected. It seems it may be a good choice for inexperienced photogs as its auto settings seem to be near spot on!?

    Thank you for posting the samples

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    Just be careful with overexposure and blue skies. That first bridge shot has the pull towards green that is typical for clipped blues. Maybe dial in a slight underexposure?
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    Hey Lars,
    You are right. Here it the original histo that I wasn't paying attention to last night because I was just thinking about the fog on the right

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    Here is the picture with highlight recovery and the new histo

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    Tim,
    I am going to get you the video. Yesterday when I went to take it, the camera said it stopped writing because the card was too slow. Strange. That card was an 8gb Transcend Class 6 which I thought would be fine. I didn't buy this card, it was sent to me when I purchased another camera so I don't know its history. I will find another fast card to give it a try.

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    So no underwater stuff. LOL

    Looks very nice like we all drove down there after the Carmel workshop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    So no underwater stuff. LOL

    Looks very nice like we all drove down there after the Carmel workshop
    It was a user problem for no underwater....I was wearing hiking boots and the only way to get a shot was to really step in. I need to get some aqua shoes or something better. Stepping on the rocks in bare feet seemed a bit risky with the stuff growing/living on them.

    Yes, conditions were somewhat similar but the fog was certainly lurking as you can see. I have my mother in town visiting so it was a nice ride to take her on.

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    Did you see any of the estimated 50,000 bicycles that were in the Monterey/Carmel area for the Sea Otter Classic weekend?

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    Careful she might move in after seeing that scenery. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxide Blu View Post
    Did you see any of the estimated 50,000 bicycles that were in the Monterey/Carmel area for the Sea Otter Classic weekend?
    Strange. Missed the bikes. Probably a good thing as a driver!

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    This belongs in the "car window" thread only it was from the sunroof. Just a glorious day in San Francisco today!

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    Could you post some indoor / low light pictures ? I would like to know if this camera can take good standard indoor shots....

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    I am looking forward to receiving my first stock of TS1 tomorrow. I will have blue and the cost in Canadian dollars 460.00 I have been stocking the Pentax WR cameras and am excited to now have a Panasonic to offer as a alternative. I can't wait to get an orange one for myself.

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    OK! Here are the low light shots. I didn't get this camera for low light shooting. This will take a couple of posts and I will put my thoughts at the end.

    First two in decent light the second two I was trying to see what would happen in the shadow areas with the dark backsplash and the edge of the stove

    Very close focus - just a couple of cm's

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    ISO 400 f3.3 1/8
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    ISO f3.3 1/8
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    Noise pretty clearly visible

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    Next up ISO 800 along with crops.

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    So, Obviously you don't want to be venturing too far into high ISO at anything but smaller snapshots with this camera. I was playing with the flash last night and it does seem to give good exposures. I will do some flash shots soon. My apartment is sort of embarrassing as I don't have any photos/art on the walls yet....yikes.

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    Thanks for these indoor shots. From my viewpoint, pictures until ISO 400 look OK, maybe a bit too soft. Now I consider buying this camera for my next trip!

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    Re: New Panasonic TS1

    Paslag - I did absolutely no PP and took out my normal export sharpening for the screen.

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