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Doing Her Nails
- Thread starter ShiroKuro
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7ian7
Guest
Nice!
Lately, I've become a complete Alien Skin
Exposure 2 convert. Color and B&W.
Lately, I've become a complete Alien Skin
Exposure 2 convert. Color and B&W.
TRSmith
Subscriber Member
I like these too. Very intimate feeling.
*Observation: This is not meant as a criticism in any way, just something that popped into my head while viewing these images with the film-grain look. It occurred to me that back in the 70s-80s when I was employed full-time as either a lab tech or photographer, film grain was the enemy. All manner of hoops were leapt through to minimize the stuff. It was evil. As universally hated as "noise" is today.
In some ways, the current use of film grain plug-ins reminds me of the use of Sepia printing paper back then. The paper was very warm toned and flattened contrast, providing a sense of opening the shadows. If one wanted to imitate an "antique" look, Sepia paper was one method. Even back then it was an obvious trick and got tiresome pretty quickly.
Again, this is not a judgement on the use of grain. More of a recognition of how a technical aspect of photography can become a stylistic one as tastes change.*
*Observation: This is not meant as a criticism in any way, just something that popped into my head while viewing these images with the film-grain look. It occurred to me that back in the 70s-80s when I was employed full-time as either a lab tech or photographer, film grain was the enemy. All manner of hoops were leapt through to minimize the stuff. It was evil. As universally hated as "noise" is today.
In some ways, the current use of film grain plug-ins reminds me of the use of Sepia printing paper back then. The paper was very warm toned and flattened contrast, providing a sense of opening the shadows. If one wanted to imitate an "antique" look, Sepia paper was one method. Even back then it was an obvious trick and got tiresome pretty quickly.
Again, this is not a judgement on the use of grain. More of a recognition of how a technical aspect of photography can become a stylistic one as tastes change.*
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Well interesting thing is back in the day when doing commercial work. Grain was the devil in many ways to give files to a client. Now that has become noise in many ways. But what is neat is it really always had a place anyway in photography but just depends on look and use of it. Interesting how times have changed but not really also. The bottom line fact is it still works. I think the trick as artists is making the best use of it without over abusing it also. Just like the the OOF area's on some portraits where the eye only is in focus. It's a overused technique but still has a place if done well. There are rules and than there are rules that are meant to be broken , and this is a nice case of breaking rules and making art. Good stuff
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7ian7
Guest
I'm blown away by how Alien skin can subtly shift the viewing experience of an image in the direction of something way closer to how I respond to images made on film. It's better at it than anything I've achieved on my own starting with files from digital cameras (of all sizes).
Theoretically if they can do it within PhotoShop, we can too — but I'm just not that good. Beyond grain — which can be dialed down or completely off — the plug-in excels at taming the color palette in remarkably pleasing ways. (However I do think Mitch would love the pushed Tri-X settings!).
Theoretically if they can do it within PhotoShop, we can too — but I'm just not that good. Beyond grain — which can be dialed down or completely off — the plug-in excels at taming the color palette in remarkably pleasing ways. (However I do think Mitch would love the pushed Tri-X settings!).
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7ian7
Guest
P.S. In the New York (fashion and advertising) labs I worked at in the early 90s, we were constantly experimenting with development and processing and paper combinations to amplify the idiosyncrasies of various films, as these "styles" were practically synonymous with many a photographer's identity.
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Exactly Maggie.:ROTFL::ROTFL::ROTFL:
simonclivehughes
Active member
Love the photos but I'm damned if I can see what #2 is a picture of!
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7ian7
Guest
#2 is actually a photo of ... Grain. 
But seriously, royalties aside, check out a demo
of this thing — it's a more subtle all-purpose tool
than one might think.
But seriously, royalties aside, check out a demo
of this thing — it's a more subtle all-purpose tool
than one might think.
Will
New member
Picture someone walking out of the room, right hand swinging back, head out of the shot top left. Of course I may be imagining things, but that is what I see.
Cindy Flood
Super Moderator
I'm not a lover of that much grit, myself, but I think the last one is wonderful.
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GaryC
Guest
I also, really like the last one, alot. Nice work!
-Gary
-Gary
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Mitch Alland
Guest
I'll take you up on it, Ian, and will post in a new thread a couple of pictures to which I've applied Tri-X pushed 2 stops.
—Mitch/Bangkok
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/sets/72157603989168260/show/
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Mitch Alland
Guest
Subarashii, ShiroKuro-san! (Honto no namae wa nan desu ka.)
I like the first and the last ones, although with the latter, if it were to be a photograph on its own rather than a part of this series with the title available to us, l would have likes to see more clearly what she's doing as otherwise I wouldn't know. The second one doesn't work for me as an abstract composition. And of the macros of the toes I prefer the second one as the first one is too gimmicky for my taste.
But overall I like the composition, the contrast and the grain of these pictures. (Moriyamo no mitai deshoo.)
Speaking of the grain, how do you get this grain in Alien Skln? I don't get anything like it with the presents.
—Mitch/Bangkok
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/sets/72157603989168260/
I like the first and the last ones, although with the latter, if it were to be a photograph on its own rather than a part of this series with the title available to us, l would have likes to see more clearly what she's doing as otherwise I wouldn't know. The second one doesn't work for me as an abstract composition. And of the macros of the toes I prefer the second one as the first one is too gimmicky for my taste.
But overall I like the composition, the contrast and the grain of these pictures. (Moriyamo no mitai deshoo.)
Speaking of the grain, how do you get this grain in Alien Skln? I don't get anything like it with the presents.
—Mitch/Bangkok
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/sets/72157603989168260/