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    books instead of cameras.

    i just looked at the 4 thirds forum and my goodness, how many have jumped from here to there! one day i may do it myself, but i have so many beautiful cameras and lenses already...

    yesterday at barnes & noble i ran across a new national geographic book, a hundred photos submitted by amateurs - as good as anything the pros do. ah, the digital age has changed things.

    so, i'd like to quote erasmus: "when i have money, i buy books. if i have anything left over, i buy food and clothes."

    here are three books i've found very helpful and none focus on equipment:

    http://www.amazon.com/Being-Photogra...8227806&sr=1-1

    (i'm sure you can get it from lenswork cheap)

    http://www.amazon.com/Within-Frame-J...8227917&sr=1-1

    (which i'm reading now)

    http://www.amazon.com/Moment-Clicks-...8227917&sr=1-9

    (it only takes one tip to make you take a quantum leap)

    now i'm as sinful about books as cameras. i've probably bought at least 300 photo books in the past six years. one failure doesn't make up for another.

    does anyone have suggestions for books?

    wayne
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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    Quote Originally Posted by smokysun View Post
    i just looked at the 4 thirds forum and my goodness, how many have jumped from here to there! one day i may do it myself, but i have so many beautiful cameras and lenses already...
    Getdpi is kinda special, click on "Forum Home" at any point in time during day or night and you'll see the that the two busiest forums are the 4/3 first, then MF forum followed by buy and sell!

    Quote Originally Posted by smokysun View Post
    yesterday at barnes & noble i ran across a new national geographic book, a hundred photos submitted by amateurs - as good as anything the pros do. ah, the digital age has changed things.

    so, i'd like to quote erasmus: "when i have money, i buy books. if i have anything left over, i buy food and clothes."

    here are three books i've found very helpful and none discuss equipment:

    http://www.amazon.com/Being-Photogra...8227806&sr=1-1

    (i'm sure you can get it from lenswork cheap)

    http://www.amazon.com/Within-Frame-J...8227917&sr=1-1

    (which i'm reading now)

    http://www.amazon.com/Moment-Clicks-...8227917&sr=1-9

    (it only takes one tip to make you take a quantum leap)

    now i'm as sinful about books as cameras. i've probably bought at least 300 photo books in the past six years. one failure doesn't make up for another.

    does anyone have suggestions for books?

    wayne
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    Hard to recommend books not knowing what you're looking for, I don't usually buy books on photograpy rather prefer books of photographers. A couple of my favorites are Eikoh Hosoe and Connie imboden, I'm pretty sure that both will appeal to your sense of aesthetics.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    Hmmm, books...my most expensive vice.....

    Some good reads....
    A Primer Of Visual Literacy....Dondis A Dondis...Out of print but an easy find....
    Camera Lucida.........Sarte
    Visual Thinking and Toward a Psychology Of Art...Arnheim
    Aesthetic......Benedetto Croce

    Easy to find great books about Photography but the above are related to vision and thinking and ...understanding what works and why....

    Don't forget....
    Kertesz......
    Winogrand......
    Evans.............

    shooter......

    ps..the above books are in my collection and I will lend them to any member with the promise of a quick return...if you can not find a copy of your own..
    My family don't get to my books....
    Don

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    great recommendations, don. i'm sure the local university library will have them.

    david, connie imboden a new name. thanks for the tip.

    best,
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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    a book for today:

    http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Colo...8409775&sr=8-2

    amazing how much of what we now take digitally for granted being done the hard way in the twenty years before!

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    the real problem for the photographer is what to shoot?. with millions of wonderful photos on the web, how do you strike a vein of gold on your own?

    here's a book from the guru who had a career very like michael jackson's:

    http://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Osho-...8547394&sr=8-1

    and i think it's a goldmine of ideas. for example, he says, 'find the thread that runs through all things.' now that's a great photographic project, no matter what you decide the thread is:

    gravity
    love
    sex (desire, libido)
    air
    light
    money
    earth
    fire
    water
    spirit
    time

    probably every little chapter could give you a life's work.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    got to musing on the threads running though certain photographers. here's a sample:

    Sam Abell: solitude
    Lee Friedlander: reflections
    Jan Sudek: spirit
    Jan Saudek: lust
    Mary Ellen Mark: growing up
    Henri Cartier-Bresson: life as a journey
    Robert Frank: exile
    Robert Douisneau: community
    Bill Brandt: tension
    Sally Mann: decay
    Phillip-Lorca diCorcia: dissipation
    Robert Capra: life as a dance

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    i know i've mentioned this book before:

    http://www.lenswork.com/obp.htm

    re-reading passages i've underlined. a very good treatise on how pros work, especially in photojournalism.

    a few passages on equipment:

    "It is important to have the right equipment for the purpose at hand and which is compatible with your own personality."

    "And personality is what will determine, to a large extent, the choice of certain subjects and ways of working over others. My advice is to stick to one camera and format for a considerable period of time."

    "For me, the top requirement is a very quiet shutter, and all other controls and features are secondary considerations."

    "More important than the choice of camera is the ease and fluency with which you use it."

    "All the technical decisions in photography should be so thoughtless that the act of shooting pictures is solely concentrated on the image in the viewfinder."

    "You can learn all you need to know about the technical side of photography in three days, but it takes constant practice to make it so instinctive you are in the right position, at the right moment, with the right exposure and focus, without any thought about equipment or technique."

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    i've been reading bits and pieces of this compilation at breakfast for the past couple of months. a fun way to start the day:

    http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Loves-...0521647&sr=8-1

    charles simic began pretty much as a street-kid in war-torn serbia to become (recently) poet laureate of the usa.

    and since my first love poetry (you can browse my bits at http://www.pbase.com/wwp/the_written_words ), i find the poet and photograper kin. both try to express the ineffable and unsayable in an image.

    one sentence from this book might help a photographer define his/her career. say this one, "Everything, of course, is a mirror if you look at it long enough." that's how a photographer's sensibility gets mixed up in whatever picture he/she takes.

    this is my favorite quote from the book (so far). i think it says what we've all felt at one time or another:

    "It's the desire for irreverence as much as anything else that brought me first to poetry. The need to make fun of authority, break taboos, celebrate and body and its functions, claim that one has seen angels in the same breath as one says that their is no god. Just thinking about the possibility of saying **** to everything made me roll on the floor with happiness."

    enjoy!
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    hmm, interesting. those stars showed up automatically to replace his word!

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    spent the day reading this

    http://www.amazon.com/Revisions-Alte...tt_at_ep_dpi_3

    and again i found ian jeffrey very insightful. he gets at (or speculates wisely) on the vision of each photographer. how they see things. and also the currents of history in photography, what's in, what's out. in this book he touches on each major scientific development. normally this bores me to tears. not here.

    i read all of the following one at barnes & noble and still haven't bought a copy:

    http://www.amazon.com/How-Read-Photo...tt_at_ep_dpi_2

    the title a bit misleading. it's really about 'how to read a photographer.'

    and looking at this

    http://www.amazon.com/Josef-Sudek-55...1774858&sr=1-1

    it struck me how interesting the commentator's comments. once again it turned out to be jeffrey.

    here's his amazon page:

    http://www.amazon.com/Ian-Jeffrey/e/...WGA45M2YNTY439

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    When I have money, I buy books. If anything is left over, I buy food and clothes. erasmus

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    Quote Originally Posted by smokysun View Post
    i know i've mentioned this book before:

    http://www.lenswork.com/obp.htm

    re-reading passages i've underlined. a very good treatise on how pros work, especially in photojournalism.

    a few passages on equipment:

    "And personality is what will determine, to a large extent, the choice of certain subjects and ways of working over others. My advice is to stick to one camera and format for a considerable period of time."


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    Wayne,

    this line makes me wonder if with all the new digital models coming out every few months if many of us would adhere to this? Will our images suffer because of it? Probably not, but we only just get used to a camera and there is a replacement.

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    hi tim,
    i guess it depends. recently someone asked about the leica digilux 2 and if anybody used it. the answer is yes, it has many rabid fans. and leica keeps sending out refurbished ones cause they sell. (originally out in 2002, i think). even certain digital cameras have special results and despite their drawbacks, appeal to people. it is amazing how many people jumped on the olympus ep1. and quite a few are coming up for resale. in terms of the foveon sensor, only sigma has it. so if you like it...
    my question is: do you want your pics to look like everyone elses? almost anybody can take a 'beautiful' photo these days. kodak's original saying, 'you push the button and we do the rest' has come to pass.
    wayne
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    ps. two famous examples of photographers who used old cameras. joseph sudek used a 1900 kodak panorama to shoot prague in the 50's and 60's. bill brandt used an old police mug shot camera for his wonderful nudes at about the same time.
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    Wayne,

    this line makes me wonder if with all the new digital models coming out every few months if many of us would adhere to this? Will our images suffer because of it?
    Getting to really know a camera takes time, I'd say six months to a year of frequent use. I do agree that people who are swapping cameras like mad are probably doing it to the detriment of their photography.

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    Great thread. I have been buying a lot of photog books and I'm running out of room to put them all! Very few are technical and most of those are about printing in black and white. I've been studying a lot of photographers and their work. Most nights I pick one to study while I relax. I also read essays and discussions about photography and art in general.

    Lately, I'm particularly drawn to Josef Koudelka, particularly his panoramas. Browsing and 6-degreeing Amazon and other sites I've recently discovered the likes of Richard Long who combines photography with conceptual and land art.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    in response to wooter's thread on his son's autism and photography, i'd like to suggest a few readings. the point is to realize other people can and do see the world differently. and the desired result: to develop (find) your own vision.

    none of these have specifically to do with autism, but i think are related. i once gave a lecture on literature and madness, have spent thousands of dollars of therapists myself, and have wasted too much time in the past trying to figure human beings out!

    http://www.amazon.com/Autobiography-...2274165&sr=8-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Memories-Dream...2274220&sr=1-1

    http://www.amazon.com/My-Voice-Will-...2275051&sr=1-7

    milton erickson ultimately shows how we hypnotize ourselves all the time! telling ourselves the same things over and over, we believe them. (backed up by neuroscience research).

    jung did a tremendous amount of self analysis and self healing. his record of it well worth reading.

    and the autobiography of the girl incredibly intense (i read it 30 years ago).

    and yesterday i ran across this on a shelf here at the lookout:

    http://www.amazon.com/My-Voice-Will-...2275051&sr=1-7

    how a number of outsider artists, many institutionalized, have used photography in their art. one, henry darger, became famous through a documentary about him:

    http://www.amazon.com/Realms-Unreal-...2275863&sr=1-1

    evidently he was diagnosed as autistic.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    i'm wondering about magazines? couldn't get to the lenswork site. they only sell on the web now, so i haven't bought one in awhile. great duotone printing.

    http://www.amazon.com/Lenswork/dp/B00007AZ87

    and these two put out by the same publisher, the color just recently. some very interesting info on auctions, collectors, and so on, but mainly portfolios of photos. the last color issue well over 200 pages.

    http://www.color-mag.com/

    http://www.bandwmag.com/

    most of the how-to magazines seem to basically develop a thirst for buying new equipment instead of taking pictures!

    any other great art photo mags out there?


    wayne
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    ps. the competition very stiff. two things seem determinate: subject matter and a powerful perception of form.


    To take better pictures put something more interesting in front of the camera. joe mcnally

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    Ag magazine from Britain is excellent.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    Wayne,
    The best book to read bar none is the one you live.
    Our own book of life gives us from our own personal experience
    the will and knowledge to go forward. It's very obvious you read that book all the time.

    There is no point in complicating photography. The simple truth is in the answers we all seek. Those answers are always answered by our selves.
    The key is to apply what you have learned to living and the awareness of dying.
    Your book has some very interesting images in it and I for one enjoy reading it.
    Your friend....don
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    hi don,
    i couldn't agree more. getting close to the bone is goal. thank you for the kind thoughts. that's the clearest statement of the artist's task i've ever read.
    best,
    wayne
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    ps. andrew, thanks for the tip. here's the site for ag magazine: http://www.picture-box.com/
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    Anyone got some tips on a good book for portraiture? I'm looking for something using window light with maybe one reflector but not necessarily flash or anything. Its just something I am not good at and some book should help!

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    Tim,
    2 Photographers I would think could show you the way would be...

    1 Kertesz..his eye for light was the best. His natural light portraits are stunning.

    2 Sudek...again as Kertesz.
    There are many books on the subject but a careful study of images is the best way.

    I had a teacher many years ago before I was thrown out of school named Frank Zecca.
    He was a true master of the PROFESSIONAL Portrait and lighting. I capped Professional because he was teaching that kinda image making. He taught me 1 thing that I will never forget that we all know anyway....

    There is only 1 sun......Light like the light is the sun.
    It drives me crazy to this day to see fashion shooters that don't know this. I mean the best too....look at the catch light in the models eyes...if you see more than 1 catch light...the shooter is well...whatever...

    anyway...with digital image making, the journey is somewhat easier because you get an instant result.
    Enjoy your journey.....
    Don

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    tim,
    two good cheap tips. hang a white sheet over the window to get soft light. and the cheapest reflectors are those collapsible ones with a silver side and a black side to block sun coming in car windows.
    luck,
    wayne
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    ps. browse through http://www.amazon.com/Moment-Clicks-...3148487&sr=8-3

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    focus magazine just showed up on the doorstep. i recommend it to everyone. beautifully printed and the price is right:

    http://www.focusmag.info/

    the editor/owner explains the delay in printing. economy. it really is a labor of love.

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    looking at this book led to a small epiphany:

    http://www.amazon.com/Winning-Digita...4423651&sr=8-1

    suddenly i realized the winning photos always stock photography. now the essence of stock is absence of the photographer. no quirks, no interpretation gets in the way of the viewer entering the scene. it is a space in the imagination where anything can be advertised. throw in a soup or a dress, and it becomes the star. the photos chosen by viewers as the best are those which interfere with their minds least!

    the opposite would be:

    http://www.amazon.com/Magnum-Brigitt...4423994&sr=1-1

    just out (it was in the chico barnes & noble last saturday). all these photographers have fish to fry, usually a political catch. this is not to everyone's taste and their disturbing elements can put people off (me too, depending on my mood). however they can be examples for meditation, as many of hcb's.

    the day can be filled with dreams or ashes. usually it's a bit of both.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    when the screensaver pic below came up, i was reminded of the book by edward abbey:

    http://www.amazon.com/Black-Sun-Nove...4672957&sr=1-5

    one of the most fun about being a lookout. i also recommend the first chapter of

    http://www.amazon.com/Desolation-Ang...4673215&sr=8-1

    this is how it used to be in kerouac's time. not quite as romantic now. and there's a really nice story in mclean's:

    http://www.amazon.com/River-Through-...67/ref=ed_oe_p

    and one more, a diary section by gary snyder in

    http://www.amazon.com/Earth-House-Ho...4673421&sr=1-1

    and if you'd like to know what's happening with lookouts today and help in their preservation, here's the site:

    http://www.firelookout.org/

    best,
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    I find some useful information from here.

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    Personal Knowledge, by Michael Polanyi.

    http://www.amazon.com/Personal-Knowl...6325405&sr=8-2

    Profound understanding of the theory and nature of knowledge. Sets forth the thesis that all our knowledge, from the most basic to the most sophisticated, whether that of science, art or religion, has as an inescapable component an intuitive, personal participation of the knower.

    For us as users of tools with the intention of making works of art, one of his most pregnant observations is that, "We dwell within our systems of articulate meaning as we dwell within our bodies." Learning to ride a bike offers an example of this. The process involves focusing on learning the details until we can put them all together, forget about them as things in themselves and just RIDE (even though we can't explain it all in words.) Learning to play a cello involves a similar process and so does using a camera. (And GAS probably doesn't help either one....)

    We know all this, roughly, and mostly, but it's a fascinating book which offered me, at least, more than a nudge in the right direction.

    Cheers,

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    just ran across this at barnes & noble:

    http://gapingvoid.com/books/

    a fun book on creativity. you can download most of it, i think. i first read his thoughts in a photomagazine most of you know

    http://www.lenswork.com/

    which does really beautiful printing. unfortunately, they no longer put it on the newstands and you have to subscribe.

    wayne
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    ps. it's very interesting to see what's going on in the world of collecting: http://www.iphotocentral.com/ an article i read recently claimed you have to know what's going on in all forms of photography (and its history) to do photography well. an interesting hypothesis. one thing hugh mcloed says in the first book: 'the young underestimate the competition.' it's good to know what you're up against. it sharpens the teeth!

    pss. here's a book that just came out http://www.amazon.com/Magnum-Brigitt...6443180&sr=8-1 what's remarkable is that you can identify the photographer from one photograph (and there must be a hundred shown). who says it's not an individual medium?
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    the article i read by the director of this museum:

    http://www.mocp.org/

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    It is useful.

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    i am in absolute awe of professional photographers. here's a set of videos worth far more than the cost:

    http://www.photovisionvideo.com/store/shop.mvc?

    also, don't miss

    http://www.amazon.com/War-Photograph...7319326&sr=1-1

    were i just starting out i'd be a pro for sure. despite the fact they work harder than i ever will

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    ps. just posted a new blog: http://smokysunsheaven.blogspot.com/...rofoundly.html

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    here's the specific link for the photovision four dollar intro deal:

    http://www.photovisionvideo.com/stor...egory_Code=PVM

    that's what i meant worth the cost.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    Wayne,
    Thanks for this again...I'm a complete fool when it comes to things like this......

    Hmmm, where's my debit card....hmmmm
    Don

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    you're welcome, don. i watched another hour this afternoon and have paid the 35 dollars for five more disks. a lot of studio work, discussion of business practices, a wedding at a fancy las vegas hotel, etc. i've watched others and these by far the best. even in streetshooting it's your relation to people that counts. and working with kids, boy, is that an art.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    just watched the last on these two disks. a photographer in the deep south u.s.a doing a senior (high school, big deal here) shoot in his backyard. really a hoot. photographers tend to be a lot of fun.

    and i would say there's little difference shooting out in the 'real' world in that you have to catch things when they're interesting, people and places and landscapes. i'm looking forward to the arrival of more videos cause they're so interesting, especially when it comes to working with people.

    i will say many have a formula they've developed, but they are really helpful formulas. it's possible then to do spin-offs. the main things is to learn to see. 'every photograph is a fantasy.' a thought i wrote down for myself.

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    i've received three more of the five photovision discs from 2009 (35 dollars) and have been watching the first one. these pros work incredibly hard to get what they need to have for clients, while perfecting their own special view. for some reason after looking at a lot of books, i find videos help me to understand what photographers are actually doing. personally, i enjoy the fact i don't have to make money at it, yet when you have to deliver, it sharpens the mind! one writer (norman douglas) said, 'all the wisdom of the world is contained in its cliches.' so knowing those and giving them a twist not a bad idea.

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    ps. a local pro photographer of portraits told me all you need is the canon 5d and the 70-200 lens. amazing how many of these photographers use this combindation.

    pss. a movie about a studio portrait photgrapher by mike leigh: http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-menson...753879&sr=1-41
    he's a wonderful filmmaker and all his films recommended, generally for story and not cinemaphtography.
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    just watched three more dvds. the photographer working with the newborns worth the price of admission. it's all about shooting portraits and setting up a business. personally, this is not what i want to do, yet it's a great insight with lots of suggestions for the real world. most photographers seem more hermetic yet the famous photographer (and one of my favorites) robert doisneau had to overcome his fear of people. as samuel johnson said, 'courage is the first virtue cause without it you can't practice the others.' or as hcb said, 'unless you're aggressive, you don't get the shot.'

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    a couple years ago i ran across hugh macleod. he's just come out with a book on creativity:

    http://gapingvoid.com/books/

    i think you'll enjoy his tough-love approach! wrote a blog based on thoughts about it:

    http://smokysunsheaven.blogspot.com/...nto-abyss.html

    a nice addition to the self-help for photographers library.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    just browsed this book at barnes & noble:

    http://www.amazon.com/Contact-Sheet-...0056705&sr=8-1

    always bracing to see the photos taken right along with an iconic photograph. there's still a legend of 'pure' photography. it's never existed. many shots, cropping, manipulation. there from the beginning of the medium. this idea of the perfect photo stifles creativity.

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    A useful Daily Read

    Mike Johnston is also a great book reader.

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    Nice point of view. Ansel Adams once said: "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." But still, too many aspiring photographers focus on getting a cool camera instead of a great photography book.
    Have a look at photography.pro, which is a great new resource for the best photography books.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    i've been watching a lot of dance videos. the dance seems a great study for photographers. here's one of my favorites:

    http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Taylor-Da...1716282&sr=1-1

    in case you don't think it relevant, look at the photos of robert capa. i think he saw life as a dance, both in war and peace.

    http://www.amazon.com/Robert-Capa-De...1716501&sr=8-1

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    this book changed cartier-bresson's view of life and photography:

    http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Art-Archer...1962015&sr=8-1

    just ran across the follow-up book, aphorisms from the hourse's mouth, the teacher who taught the writer of the book above:

    http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Bow-Arrow-...d_bxgy_b_img_c

    substitute camera for bow and you've a very different approach to photography.

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    Quote Originally Posted by smokysun View Post
    this book changed cartier-bresson's view of life and photography:

    http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Art-Archer...1962015&sr=8-1

    just ran across the follow-up book, aphorisms from the hourse's mouth, the teacher who taught the writer of the book above:

    http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Bow-Arrow-...d_bxgy_b_img_c

    substitute camera for bow and you've a very different approach to photography.

    wayne
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    Wayne, thanks a LOT for this info! Iīm one of those who have put Herrighelīs book on my short "shelf of honour", so to say.... Itīs not a reference; either I re-read it completely, or I leave it alone. But each new read remains an earth-shattering experience.

    I hadnīt seen there was another book abour Master Awa; Iīll get it ASAP! (Just found it was temporarily out of stock with my regular dealer, but Amazon works well even from Sweden).

    Again, thanks!

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    you're welcome, per. a great way to start the new year!

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    My very absolute most favorite hobby/pastime is reading. I brought a Kindle 10 months ago and I’ve already read over 50 books. So much cheaper and easier downloading them – leaves me more money for the second most enjoyable habit – photography.

    Happy New Years!

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    I cant sleep unless I read a page of text. But I cannot get into photography books!
    I have a few doubts about e-books. One is how can I get the writer to autograph an E book? How can I dedicate a PDF ( you know Happy Birthday messages etc etc ) although this could be resolved by retailers adding an extra dedication page. I must admit that I am tempted by those ebook machines all the same.
    Same thing with music- get an MP3 or ITune autographed....
    The great things about a book are that it doesn't need electricity, it wont break down (though it might fall apart) and doesn't require that you are a good citizen with an internet connection.
    All the best

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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    I agree with you Paul. Somehow the books I prefer tend to be on subjects other than photography. This may be due to many factors; that the books are mostly written by critics and curators which usually alienates the reader, or photographers philosophizing on their craft which sometimes make the book a poor read. This is by no means a generalization, just that I come across a good photography book very very rarely.
    As for preferring a 'real' book to an e-book, well, I'm for analogue and prefer to read LP covers to CD inserts
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    Re: books instead of cameras.

    since i've been plagued by the transitory nature of existence, i've found solid books a comfort (i'm back up to at least a hundred boxes, many full of photo books). e-books can vanish at the touch of a button! maybe it's time to watch the movie 'farenheit 451' again.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_...&sprefix=faren

    as for photobooks, if the pictures in them (technique or history) don't interest you, pass. i do think studying actual photos can sink into your unconscious.

    however, if i were to recommend one book, it would be on painting, and mostly about portraits:

    http://www.amazon.com/Art-Spirit-Fra...2141614&sr=8-2

    reading, underlining, and re-reading this book will pay off. (that's been my experience.)

    wayne
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    ps. i did run across this book at the san francisco museum of modern art today:

    http://www.amazon.com/Artists-Eyes-V...2141843&sr=1-1

    it looks like it might be really useful.

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