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    The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    and the impossibility of focusing handheld!












    How did they do that?

    I'm sure it's flawed in lots of ways, I just haven't found 'em yet!

    PS this was our 10 minutes of sunshine today.

    PPS shot RAW processed in Aperture (nothing more than slight exposure adjustment and one cropped)

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Obviously defective equipment Jono...time to send it back for repair!
    Good shooting as always!

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    All lovely! But the first one is stunning!

    Can I take some blame now?

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    exif says f/5, how is it producing such images?

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    All lovely! But the first one is stunning!

    Can I take some blame now?
    Absolutely - it's all your fault!
    What's more, it hasn't yet irritated me.
    Have a wonderful trip.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by ken_vs_ryu View Post
    exif says f/5, how is it producing such images?
    I'm guessing a close focusing distance.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    I'm guessing a close focusing distance.
    Min focus distance is only about 10 inches.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Excellent work Jono ......

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Maybe it is a good thing sand got into my LX3?

    Very nice shots Jono.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Really nice, Jono. I've heard nothing but praise for this lens in terms of bokeh, and the samples seem to back that up.

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    Excellent demonstration of what I was preaching at DPR - the bokeh is not just good, but very good in my book. Cheers. -Norm

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Cosidering its price, size, weight and the range provided, I think this lens seems to be punching well above its weight grade !
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    and the impossibility of focusing handheld!
    Not certain what you mean--shot with autofocus or manual?

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by tom in mpls View Post
    Not certain what you mean--shot with autofocus or manual?
    DMF I was joking, it's easy

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    DMF I was joking, it's easy
    Right, I did know it was a joke, but sometimes I don't get the punch line. Although a college graduate, I admit it's still not clear to me. I think you shot with the camera's autofocus; please humor my confused brain.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by tom in mpls View Post
    Right, I did know it was a joke, but sometimes I don't get the punch line. Although a college graduate, I admit it's still not clear to me. I think you shot with the camera's autofocus; please humor my confused brain.
    Can't be as confused as mine Tom!
    DMF is auto with manual over-ride - so you autofocus, then refine it with the manual focus ring.

    I also think the bokeh is delicious

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I also think the bokeh is delicious
    THAT joke I did understand. Thanks for explaining what DMF meant.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    The blur is nice, but any lens with very close focus will throw the background into smooth oblivion, medium distances (2-3m) are where the gems are separated from the mud.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by thrice View Post
    The blur is nice, but any lens with very close focus will throw the background into smooth oblivion, medium distances (2-3m) are where the gems are separated from the mud.
    Try the Olympus 50 f2 macro - it might be one of the sharpest lenses, but the blur ain't good
    try the new 35 'lux come to that!

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    and the impossibility of focusing handheld!












    How did they do that?

    I'm sure it's flawed in lots of ways, I just haven't found 'em yet!

    PS this was our 10 minutes of sunshine today.

    PPS shot RAW processed in Aperture (nothing more than slight exposure adjustment and one cropped)
    Very impressive, Jono

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Very impressive, Jono

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    Don't get me wrong - the lens has plenty of shortcomings (Slow - not great at infinity - distortion wide open - some CA). BUT unlike most cheap kit lenses it does have some redeeming features.

    My slightly over the top response was mostly based on surprise that it is as good as it is.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Don't get me wrong - the lens has plenty of shortcomings (Slow - not great at infinity - distortion wide open - some CA). BUT unlike most cheap kit lenses it does have some redeeming features.
    I think one of the biggest advantages of the lens comes when shooting 1080i video. When the 14MP output of the sensor gets crunched down into a 1920x1080 sized output, all of these shortcomings should just melt away. And when that output is derived from an APS-C sensor, low-light video in particular, would stand out.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    I think one of the biggest advantages of the lens comes when shooting 1080i video. When the 14MP output of the sensor gets crunched down into a 1920x1080 sized output, all of these shortcomings should just melt away. And when that output is derived from an APS-C sensor, low-light video in particular, would stand out.
    I guess you're right - I haven't tried it, but clearly I should.
    Time please!

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    The "kit" lens was the biggest surprise for me when I tried it out at SonyStyle store. Love the feel. I liked what I saw in the out of focus areas in the test shots, especially close focus portraits. I went in thinking I would get the 16mm, and walked out with the Nex5 plus 18-55mm. No regrets so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Min focus distance is only about 10 inches.
    I seem to be able to get a bit closer than that, but I haven't tried measuring it.

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    Re: The Shocking NEX kit zoom and it's dreadful bokeh

    very nice Jono. I handled one of these the other day and noticed in the menus there is a "defocus" option, was that on in any of these pics?

    I've used something similar in a Fuji F70 EXR called "pro focus mode" which works pretty well in some situations, allowing nice bokeh with the relatively small aperture, kind of depends on backlighting, and distance of subject from camera and background.
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