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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by sebboh View Post
    thanks, no tripod - i had just got the MC/MD adapter and ran out on my lunch break to test it with the MD mount lenses i had with me. i just handheld the shots with the lens at mfd and fired a burst (whenever i do this it seems the first is always the keeper as my focus drifs through the burst). as it happens, when i switched lenses to my rokkor MD 24mm f/2.8 another bumble be landed on that exact same flower and i was able to get a very similar shot of with it for comparison:

    focal length and max aperture issues aside the two lenses have rather different drawing styles (and i'm sure the MD 28/2 will be closer to the other rokkor than the vivitar). wide open my rokkor is sharper (but a stop slower) and has greater contrast. stopped down they are both extremely sharp. the vivitar has an extremely smooth bokeh that to my eye flattens the look of the images. this can be very nice for portraits and very busy backgrounds, but overall i like the slightly less smooth rokkor style bokeh that seems to keep some of the images depth intact. i'm always amazed how consistant all of my MD lenses have been in their drawing style (the MCs i've used seem a bit different).

    anyway, enough of my rambling. good luck with the MD 28/2, i'm quite jealous. i was stalling trying to decide which lenses i could sell to buy it myself (getting the NEX and Cindy's 42mm has maxed out my camera spending for a bit). post some shots when you get it. and if for some reason you want to sell it or the MC version let me know.
    Interesting comparison between the two lenses and a most useful observation about the impact of the slightly edgier bokeh on the image depth. Were the two pictures shot at the same aperture?

    So you bought Cindy's 42/1.2. I can remember, when I was just getting into Pen F lens for m4/3, I'd found a 42/1.2 for sale and sent Cindy a PM asking how she liked that lens. She told me that she liked it a lot and that was all the information my Department of Rationalization and Self-Justification needed in order to authorize the purchase.

    If I do decide to sell one or other of my Rokkor 28/2 lenses, I'll send you a PM first.

    Quote Originally Posted by wayne_s View Post
    Good to see people trying the old Rokkor 28/2 on theNEX.
    I have both 49mm and 55mm filter size versions and was planning on trying them out on a Nex when I buy one.I really like the lens on my 1ds3.
    Sharp wide open and great value since I got each copy for $200.
    58/1.2 and 28/2 are my favorite Rokkors.
    Wayne, did you do the Canon conversion yourself, or did you send the lens(es) to Jim Buchanan?

    Quote Originally Posted by sebboh View Post
    have you done any comparison between the two (55mm and 49mm filter thread) to see if there are any differences in performance?
    Red Bailey's Minolta Lens Chronology provides this information about the 28/2 Rokkors:
    January, 1975
    MC W.Rokkor-X 28/2 [10/9] (55mm) 0,3m f/16 65,5x61mm 340g
    A brand-new lens as a fast 28mm. This fine optic also uses floating element correction.

    October, 1977
    MD W.Rokkor-X 28/2 [10/9] (55mm) 0,3m f/22 65,5x61mm 340g
    MD up-date of the fast 28mm, closing to f/22.

    October, 1981
    MD 28/2 [9/9] (49mm) 0,3m f/22 64x50mm 265g
    Up-dated fast 28mm, optically pretty much the same, but this has been compacted and now sports 49mm filter threads.
    But according to the Minolta Manual Lens List, there were three MD variants:
    MD I (1977)
    MD II (1978) Plastic (not metal) aperture ring and changed front engraving
    MD III (1981) Reduced weight, 49mm filter, aperture lock added, amber ft scale (from green), focal length marking next to red mounting bead
    My current 28/2 is the MD II version. Not sure what Red Bailey means when he says the MD III version is "optically pretty much the same" so it'll be interesting to see if/how the changed optical formula (from 10/9 to 9/9) has altered the rendering. But perhaps Wayne can tell us about any differences he's noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    I received my Metabones adapter today. The CV 35 1.4 snaps into it very snuggly, and I'd say I'm as happy as I could be with it...considering I don't have the actual camera yet. Nice build, looks great and fair price. I hope it nails infinity. Camera arrives Monday!
    Great ! Can't wait to see samples, once you get the camera. I agree that the price is just great - both of the adapter and also of the lens (considering you are getting f/1.4 with it).

    Somewhere downstream, I might add the 50mm f/1.1 Nokton, since I have always been fascinated with lenses that take it to such extremes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathon Delacour View Post
    So I'm thinking that a late MD Rokkor 28/2 (with the 49mm filter thread) might do the trick, since it's smaller and lighter than the earlier (55mm filter) MD Rokkor 28/2..
    Agreed. And considering the prices at which the MD/Canon-FD lenses have been selling, you will get absolutely top-notch glass for a relative pittance. But seems like people are getting wiser about how these newer digital cameras like the NEX etc are able to use the older lenses, and the prices have started edging upward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathon Delacour View Post
    Interesting comparison between the two lenses and a most useful observation about the impact of the slightly edgier bokeh on the image depth. Were the two pictures shot at the same aperture?

    So you bought Cindy's 42/1.2. I can remember, when I was just getting into Pen F lens for m4/3, I'd found a 42/1.2 for sale and sent Cindy a PM asking how she liked that lens. She told me that she liked it a lot and that was all the information my Department of Rationalization and Self-Justification needed in order to authorize the purchase.

    If I do decide to sell one or other of my Rokkor 28/2 lenses, I'll send you a PM first.
    thanks, i'm quite liking the pen f 42mm, especially for social shooting and portraits. the two shots were both wide open so the rokkor was at f/2.8 and the vivitar was at f/2 giving it an obvious advantage in the blurring department. i see the same characteristics in shots from my rokkor 45 f/2 and 50mm f/1.2 that i see in the 24mm f/2.8 though, so i know it's not just a matter of dof.

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    Great ! Can't wait to see samples, once you get the camera. I agree that the price is just great - both of the adapter and also of the lens (considering you are getting f/1.4 with it).

    Somewhere downstream, I might add the 50mm f/1.1 Nokton, since I have always been fascinated with lenses that take it to such extremes.
    Yeah, both the 50 1.1 and 35 1.2 look like fun lenses, despite the size. I'm really tempted by the small ZM 50 1.5 as well, since all of my 50mm lenses are SLR sized. The Sony 16mm, CV 35/2 and ZM 50/1.5 is a pretty sweet 3 lens kit that would handle everything I'd need, and it would be a tiny overall setup. I'm going to play around with my SLR 50mm lenses first, though. My wife and I are new business owners, and I promised that I would only fund NEX purchases via ebay sales for the near future. I need to raid the photography/guitar closet and find some more unused stuff (i already sold the 24-70.)

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Jonathon and Sebboh,

    I sent my two 28/2 Rokkors to Jim Buchanan to convert as they were a lot more complex to convert than the two 58/1.2 Rokkors which I converted myself.
    He did an excellent job converting them to Canon mount with proper infinity focusing and with pretty fast turnaround time.
    I always just thought that the 55mm filter size version with the extra element is slightly sharper wide open but I haven't done too many comparison shots. I know for sure the 49mm version vignettes noticeably more than the 55mm version so I just use the 55mm one now. But vignetting should be a lot less on a crop sensor so I don't think it is a concern.
    This is a link to a web page with info on all Rokkors. Look at the performance comments for the 28/2:

    http://digitalrokkor.altervista.org/minoltalens.html
    The FLE really helps this lens be sharp at close distances as well as far.

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by wayne_s View Post
    Jonathon and Sebboh,

    I sent my two 28/2 Rokkors to Jim Buchanan to convert as they were a lot more complex to convert than the two 58/1.2 Rokkors which I converted myself.
    He did an excellent job converting them to Canon mount with proper infinity focusing and with pretty fast turnaround time.
    I always just thought that the 55mm filter size version with the extra element is slightly sharper wide open but I haven't done too many comparison shots. I know for sure the 49mm version vignettes noticeably more than the 55mm version so I just use the 55mm one now. But vignetting should be a lot less on a crop sensor so I don't think it is a concern.
    This is a link to a web page with info on all Rokkors. Look at the performance comments for the 28/2:

    http://digitalrokkor.altervista.org/minoltalens.html
    The FLE really helps this lens be sharp at close distances as well as far.
    Wayne, thanks for the link! I recall looking at this site when I first began to acquire Rokkor lenses and was wondering how to use them on digital bodies. But I didn't discover the page you linked to -- his evaluations of the different focal lengths certainly match yours and my own experience with the 28/2 and the 58/1.2. Interestingly, he doesn't mention the 20/2.8, also a floating element design, which is another gem.

    So far I've used my Rokkors mainly on the Panasonic G1, plus with a few rolls of film on a Minolta XD7 body. But your post has prompted me to think seriously about asking Jim Buchanan to convert them to Canon EF mount. This would seem to offer the best of both worlds: I'd still be able to use them on m4/3 and NEX cameras (with a Canon EOS adapter) but I could also mount them on a Canon body. The upcoming Canon 60D is rumored to have an articulating LCD screen, which I find indispensable on the Panasonic G1. Along with the APS-C sensor and the high ISO performance, the articulating screen is why I'm thinking about picking up an NEX-5.

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    My wife and I are new business owners, and I promised that I would only fund NEX purchases via ebay sales for the near future. I need to raid the photography/guitar closet and find some more unused stuff (i already sold the 24-70.)
    Yeah, as long as you stay away from bidding wars on eBay, it should be a good venue to pick up some really good stuff cost effectively. But some folks get caught up in bidding wars on eBay, and I see them seriously overpaying.

    Glad you were able to sell your 24-70, even though I personally find my 24-70 to be an invaluable lens (bolstered by the CZ85 and 135), for the type of shooting I do. During some events etc., it does a lot of heavy lifting on its own, on the A900.
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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Anyone have any experience using a NEX5 and Minolta 24-105 mm??

    Also, anyone using the 35 mm macro lens on the NEX5??

    I was hoping to use these lenses since there will be metering, and aperture control with the Sony lens adapter.


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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
    Anyone have any experience using a NEX5 and Minolta 24-105 mm??

    Also, anyone using the 35 mm macro lens on the NEX5??

    I was hoping to use these lenses since there will be metering, and aperture control with the Sony lens adapter.


    Martin
    Based on my usage of other Minolta/Sony A-mount lenses till date, I think both the 24-105 and the 30 Macro should perform just fine on the NEX. That is, if you are okay with the additional 1 inch thickness added by the adapter.
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    Any problems with edge smearing???? Not an RF lens, so I wouldn't expect it. Any specific problems with either of these lenses???

    Martin

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Any Sony or Minolta SLR lens will perform on NEX just like it does on Alpha bodies, so if you find results with the A550, it should be more or less the same.

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
    Any problems with edge smearing????
    None, whatsoever.

    Any specific problems with either of these lenses???

    Martin
    I used to have the Sony 24-105 f/3.5-4.5 in the past and even on the A900, it performed reasonably well, when stopped down at or beyond f/5.6 (not a good performer wide-open, however). So on the NEX, I would not expect any problems at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Any Sony or Minolta SLR lens will perform on NEX just like it does on Alpha bodies, so if you find results with the A550, it should be more or less the same.
    Do you know how long it took for your metabones adapter to get here ? In the USPS tracking system, it has been stating "Origin post is preparing shipment" for the past one week.

    Beneath that it states "Foreign International despatch August 13th" and beneath that it states "Foreign Acceptance August 10th".

    Just want to have a ballpark idea on when it would get here....purchased Aug.9th and shipped out on Aug.10th.

    My lens will get in tomorrow via UPS but without the adapter, I of course would not be able to use it.
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    I already own the 24-105 mm, and I have seen mixed reports on the 30 mm macro, Any recommendations on its purchase???

    Thanks again.

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by roweraay View Post
    Do you know how long it took for your metabones adapter to get here ? In the USPS tracking system, it has been stating "Origin post is preparing shipment" for the past one week.

    Beneath that it states "Foreign International despatch August 13th" and beneath that it states "Foreign Acceptance August 10th".

    Just want to have a ballpark idea on when it would get here....purchased Aug.9th and shipped out on Aug.10th.

    My lens will get in tomorrow via UPS but without the adapter, I of course would not be able to use it.
    Mine took around 8 days to arrive, I believe.

    As far as the adapter goes, I've got a little bad news about it. The button that they use as a lens release crowded the area between the lens and the grip way too much, so I took the darn thing apart and removed it, because it pinched my fingers. In order to remove the lens from the adapter, I have to use a little screw driver, which is no big deal right now, since I only have one M lens and plan on keeping it on the adapter anyway. I wish that I could have foreseen just how small that area for my fingers was going to be, but I would imagine that all of the M adapters encroach in this area one way or another. Getting the adapter back together was a pit of a pain, because there are little pressure clips that fall out easily. Drove me a little bonkers.

    Actually, upon review, I see that the Voigtlander adapter has a much more low profile lens release button. I'm not sure if that is worth the extra money or not, but I'm sorry I mentioned this Metabones adapter to you, roweraay. I'd heard nothing but good things about their adapters, and no one mentioned this issue.

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    The Kipon adapter works without this problem. Plenty of room to get in to release either the lens adapter from the camera, or the lens from the adapter.

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    I wasn't having issues with to release, but, rather, I was having problems with my fingers rubbing the release lever when holding the camera. The Kipon does look to have a smaller release, but I'll probably just go Voigtlander next time, since it is even more sleek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    ... but I'm sorry I mentioned this Metabones adapter to you, roweraay. I'd heard nothing but good things about their adapters, and no one mentioned this issue.
    That is not a problem at all, since when you mentioned the adapter, you yourself did not have it in hand and thus did it in good faith. As long as I am aware that there is this slight issue, I will simply work around it.

    Actually, based on feedback around the internet, metabones seems to have a good reputation among adapters and I doubt I will be disappointed with mine.
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    Thankyou to everyone for all the information in this thread - between you, you are solely responsible for me buying a NEX-5. When it was first released I was interested from the POV of the technology and the strides it showed Sony having made with the sensor.

    But the thought of all the little Contax G Zeiss primes, kind of changed the equation for me and made me think of the camera as an entirely different beast. I'll be shooting a friend's wedding in a few weeks and the NEX is looking to be the companion in my pocket so that I can respond quickly to opportunities and leave the longer lenses on my A900.

    One question if I may; has anyone yet tried out a macro lens with the NEX?

    I'm getting good results with the Minolta AF 50mm f3.5 and the 1:2 ratio is plenty, but I'm hoping for something a lot smaller that doesn't need the 1" adaptor and is more in fitting with the 'kit'?

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by tigertimb View Post

    One question if I may; has anyone yet tried out a macro lens with the NEX?
    Hi Tim
    Yes . . . . I've used the minolta 100mm f2.8 - works well in manual focus and produces fine results . . . pity about the missing IS, but otherwise good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertimb View Post
    One question if I may; has anyone yet tried out a macro lens with the NEX?

    I'm getting good results with the Minolta AF 50mm f3.5 and the 1:2 ratio is plenty, but I'm hoping for something a lot smaller that doesn't need the 1" adaptor and is more in fitting with the 'kit'?

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    Tim,

    I have tried both 50 and 100 macro. It is a cool setup because you could get really nasty angles well, but i really missed the wireless flash.

    Here are a couple of samples with 100 macro

    ISO 1600, 100 macro, f9


    ISO 1600, 100 macro, f9, with direct flash on subject


    Higher ISO being cleaner helps with DOF, but lack of light control and stabilization makes it more arduous to use. Flip LCD is a joy to use.

    Hope this helps,

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    Thankyou both; the 100mm is looking good and giving some excellent results. And I was certainly thinking that the flip screen and 1:1 focussing was possible going to make the NEX a better choice choice for macro than the A900 in a lot of places. Certainly, a lot of the effort is always in getting the angle on the subject that I want, and then still being able to get down to view through the viewfinder and focus manually.

    I was hoping that there might be a macro lens of a similar size to the Contax G lenses, using a similarly thin adaptor - even the 50mm Minolta ends up feeling huge by comparison. (but being light it does balance well on the tripod foot for table based shots).

    If nothing else, I have something workable, and I'll just have to hope that the rumour of Sony producing a dedicated 70mm macro for the NEX is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertimb View Post
    ...even the 50mm Minolta ends up feeling huge by comparison. (but being light it does balance well on the tripod foot for table based shots)..
    Yes, I agree. The first A-mount lens I tried on the NEX was the Sony 50mm f/2.8 Macro. Due to the 1" thickness of the adapter, even the 50 Macro looks large.

    I am awaiting the receipt of the Leica M adapter, to try out my 35/2 Summicron. Of course being an RF lens, the adapter is thin and the lens is super-tiny too.

    I also ordered for the 21mm f/2.8 Biogon, a lens from the Contax G series and expecting to get the lens and the adapter over the next one week or so. The 21mm gets close to the 35mm FOV that I prefer and thus I might sell off the 35/2 once it gets here.
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    Anyone try a Zeiss 25mm ZM on the NEX 5???

    That combo would give almost the 35mm effective FOV that I would like.

    Also, any ideas about edge smearing with this lens???

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
    Anyone try a Zeiss 25mm ZM on the NEX 5???

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showpo...59&postcount=7

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
    Anyone try a Zeiss 25mm ZM on the NEX 5???

    That combo would give almost the 35mm effective FOV that I would like.

    Also, any ideas about edge smearing with this lens???

    Thanks.

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    Yes, I too wanted a 35mm equivalent FOV. Some of the lenses I considered were the 25mm ZM (approx 37.5mm FOV) and even the Contax G 21mm f/2.8 (32mm FOV). Both of these have no edge smearing issues, which is a good thing.

    Unfortunately, both of these lenses (25ZM and 21CG) seem to have a color shift issue at both the right and left edges, which is really due to problems with wide-angle RF lenses, where, due to the extreme angles at which light hits the edges of the sensor, there are issues with color translation/interpretation by the bayer algorithms and hence lead to shift in colors at these specific edges. The top and bottom of the 3:2 sensor (in landscape mode) is just fine, since it just misses those extreme angles that are problematic.

    The Contax 21mm is supposed to be SHARP right from wide-open but seems to have some fitment issues with the Contax G adapter (it "fits" but seems to be a bit tight)....in addition to the color shift issue.

    Bottomline, I think 35mm is probably "safe" and you can push it down to about 28mm but anything wider is going to have these issues. Now, if there is a cornerfix profile developed for this, then you should be good to go, since the critical edge smearing is not present.
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    Thanks for the info.

    Bottom line - no 35 mm FOV that works w/NEX 5.

    28mm lens gives about 42mm FOV. A little high.

    Any idea if the Voigtlander 25mm has the same problem???

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
    Thanks for the info.

    Bottom line - no 35 mm FOV that works w/NEX 5.

    28mm lens gives about 42mm FOV. A little high.

    Any idea if the Voigtlander 25mm has the same problem???

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    it won't give you the small size of a rangefinder lens but any slr 24mm will work with no optical issues on NEX. most of them end up being the same size as the kit zoom even with the adapter - nowhere near pocketable but functionally not much larger than any of the of the 24-25mm rangefinder lenses and they can focus much closer. there are 24mm f/2 lenses in nikon F, canon FD, and olympus OM mounts all of which are well respected lenses and most (not the olympus) can be found at quite reasonable prices. if you don't need the speed there are a ton of f/2.8 or slower 24mm slr lenses. the best fit of these is probably the olympus OM 24mm f/2.8 - it is reputed to be an extremely good performing lens and is quite small. right now i am using a rokkor MD 24mm f/2.8 that i am quite happy with (except for the speed) while i wait for sony to release a lens roadmap. i'm hoping for a zeiss 24mm f/2 - but i doubt i'll see one anytime soon.

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    I like the 24/2.8 AIS Nikkor. Very nice bokeh (as listed on Mike Johnston's bokeh ratings; unusual for a wide angle.) Reasonably priced. CRC close range correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebboh View Post
    it won't give you the small size of a rangefinder lens but any slr 24mm will work with no optical issues on NEX. most of them end up being the same size as the kit zoom even with the adapter - nowhere near pocketable but functionally not much larger than any of the of the 24-25mm rangefinder lenses and they can focus much closer. there are 24mm f/2 lenses in nikon F, canon FD, and olympus OM mounts all of which are well respected lenses and most (not the olympus) can be found at quite reasonable prices. if you don't need the speed there are a ton of f/2.8 or slower 24mm slr lenses. the best fit of these is probably the olympus OM 24mm f/2.8 - it is reputed to be an extremely good performing lens and is quite small. right now i am using a rokkor MD 24mm f/2.8 that i am quite happy with (except for the speed) while i wait for sony to release a lens roadmap. i'm hoping for a zeiss 24mm f/2 - but i doubt i'll see one anytime soon.
    +1

    You might also try looking for a Vivitar 24/2 or 24/2.8. The Komine-made versions (with serial numbers starting with 28) are generally regarded as the best.

    Regarding the size advantage of the Leica M lenses, this post by Douglas Ferling in the Fun with the NEX cameras thread provides a useful perspective from someone who has used a Leica M and a Sony SLR lens on his NEX-5:

    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Oddly enough, I kind of like the ergonomics of my 50mm with the Alpha adapter better than my little M lens, because it sits nicely in the hand, and the focusing ring is in a good place. I may get the new cheapie Sony 35/1.8 for when being as small as possible isn't a priority.

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    Today I played a little bit with the NEX -again. I use a JINFINANCE adapter and it works quite well. The most interesting lens for me was the Elmarit 28 but it did not give me good results. So I thought I try the TRI Elmar at 28mm and I am really happy with this one. Since I carry both the M8 and the NEX in the same bag the TRI is not an extra piece to carry.
    I have 2 comparison shots on my blog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom in mpls View Post
    Ok, I admit that I've gotten completely confused about the comments on "other" lenses used on the NEX.

    I would like this thread to be a list of lenses that have been tried. If you have been able to draw conclusions, let us know. Include pertinent info such as quality of infinity focus, center and edge sharpness, ease of use, comments on adapters, or other info as you deem important.

    Please post your conclusions, pro or con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathon Delacour View Post
    +1

    You might also try looking for a Vivitar 24/2 or 24/2.8. The Komine-made versions (with serial numbers starting with 28) are generally regarded as the best.

    Regarding the size advantage of the Leica M lenses, this post by Douglas Ferling in the Fun with the NEX cameras thread provides a useful perspective from someone who has used a Leica M and a Sony SLR lens on his NEX-5:
    FWIW, I've become more accustomed to the handling of the tiny CV 35/1.4 on my NEX-5, so I'm not so sure about adding the larger 35mm lens anymore. The advantage of throwing the NEX into small pocket in my various bags (or even a pants cargo pocket) is too great to give up. My biggest issue was using a focusing tab at waist-level, but I'm ok with it now.

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    Has anyone tried the CV 12mm on the NEX yet? I used to use one on my Epson R-D1 (same crop) to very good effect. I'm tempted to pick up another but I'd rather hear from someone first.

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    Has anyone tried the Voigtlander 28/2 ultron on the nex yet? I'd like a 42mm fov

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    Runouni,

    I've got the 28/2 but I'm still waiting for my adapters!! I'll report back once they come in and I've had a chance to shoot with the Ultron.

    Cheers,

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    Great Simon thanks! Should be a really sweet combi

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    Has anyone tried the Voigtlander 50mm f1.1 lens on the NEX? I see nice images from this on m4/3 but not the NEX yet. I have the CV 50mm f1.5 but the 1.1 definitely interests me.

    Cheers,

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    I'm sure the 50/1.1 is great on NEX. Most of the issues with corners seem to be happening with lenses wider than 35mm.

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    Douglas,

    I'm not so worried about the corners, but I'd like to see how it is for CA etc, and just have a look at the image IQ on the NEX.

    Cheers,

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    Gotcha. I haven't seen examples myself. You might want to look around for M9 examples as a rough guide, if you can't find NEX samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonclivehughes View Post
    Douglas,

    I'm not so worried about the corners, but I'd like to see how it is for CA etc, and just have a look at the image IQ on the NEX.

    Cheers,
    from my experience using other lenses on both 4/3 and nex i can say that CA, coma, and sharpness should be slightly better on the nex and distortion and vignetting should be slightly worse on the nex. all of this is just due to the difference in sensor size and should apply to all FF lenses with a focal length longer than 35mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Gotcha. I haven't seen examples myself. You might want to look around for M9 examples as a rough guide, if you can't find NEX samples.
    Oh Douglas - very very rough - comparisons I've done between M lenses on the NEX and the M9 aren't kind, not even slightly.

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    Re: A list of lenses that have been tested on the NEX--good and bad!

    Jono, I simply meant in regards to getting a feel for the lens characteristics. I'm certainly not calling the NEX an M9!

    Granted, for fun, I would love to see some NEX and M shots with the same 50mm M lens and cropping the APS-C portion out of the M9 frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    Granted, for fun, I would love to see some NEX and M shots with the same 50mm M lens and cropping the APS-C portion out of the M9 frame.
    But it's not the type of thing that a sensible person puts on line

    If you'd asked two weeks ago I could have sent you some raw files . . . but I'm afraid they're long since binned.

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    Just sold off my NEX5 and the 2 lenses, in the "for sale" forum. I just was not using the NEX5 as much as my A900, and the impending arrival of the A55 (which would work natively with all of my existing A-mount lenses) was the final nail.

    I still have the NEX-to-A-mount adapter but might sell it off shortly, now that the camera is gone.
    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Oh Douglas - very very rough - comparisons I've done between M lenses on the NEX and the M9 aren't kind, not even slightly.
    Interesting, I think the comparison between M Lenses on the NEX and M8 is actually not wholly embarrassing to the NEX, although there are indeed ways in which the NEX falls short (as well as some advantages in post). The M9 must really be quite a step up. One of these days my resistance may finally run out.

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    I will join the heretics and say that not withstanding Jono's experience, other tests seem to be contradicting that the M9 just blows away the NEX. See the following Steve Huff "Crazy Comparison ..." test with the M9 against the NEX with kit 18-55. While the difference is visible, much can be attributed to two factors, better lens resolution and more megapixels. Having seen first hand how much better the NEX is with a good lens I know that the difference shown in Steve's test will diminish considerably and to the point that in all but a very large image one could not justify the cost difference.

    Pump the ISO requirement up and the NEX may even be superior to the M9 from an IQ perspective. The reasons are simple when you think about it. The keys to a good image are the sensor, the processing algorithm, the computer power to do the processing and the lenses. If the lenses are equalized (i.e. the same) the differences come down to the three other major variables. I seriously doubt if Leica has the knowledge and depth of expertise that Sony has in digital image processing. How much Sony chooses to make available in any particular model is a marketing and not an engineering decision. When it comes the the processor, Sony once again has a significant advantage in both experience and their selection of processors including the use of custom ASICs. Since Sony designs and fabricates their own sensor they clearly have the advantage there too. Again, how they choose to use the advantage is the key and typically these are marketing rather than technical decisions. Since Sony has no real interest in making the NEX cameras work better than the M9 with all M lenses, they will not optimize the sensor or processing for such lenses as it is not to their advantage. Leica has focused on trying to make the sensor and algorithm optimal for their lenses and short registration. Their struggles and on going problems with some lenses still is a reflection of their relative inexperience in the digital domain combined with the inherent difficulty of the problem. My guess is that center performance will be very close less the difference in megapixels but outer portions of the frame will be better on the M9. Steve plans to conduct further tests when he gets his adapter so we will all see for ourselves.
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    My take on the NEX-5 is that it is not a real camera! It is a sensor that spits out dressed up images.

    If anyone wants to beat up on Leica or any other real cameras, they will have to look for another real camera to compare it with!

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    Vivek,

    Pray tell what is a "real camera" and what makes it so? In the pre-electronic/digital days one might say the quality of the lens and mechanics combined with the functionality such as ability to use a wide variety of lenses, ruggedness, and handling defined a real camera from something less. With the same film available to everyone it really came down to lens quality and aperture and shutter accuracy for exposure accuracy to define image quality along with size of negative.

    Electronics with digital in particular have changed everything. By your way of thinking todays electronic flashes are not real flashed we need the old bulb flash units for a real flash. P.s. I used those in their day and it was a real pain so I will take the electronic variety and call it a real flash. Of course you may go back further and call a real flash the try with powder to ignite as the only real flash.
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