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    Fisheye options?

    Now that I have a DSLR again I'm thinking I need a Fisheye for it...

    Has anyone tried the Minolta AF 16/2.8 Fisheye on an A900/A850? Is it worth getting?

    I used to have the Zenitar for Canon and (actually, still do), well, it was borderline usable on a 1Ds2. The focusing helix wouldn't move all the way to infinity (the plain glass filter in the rear blocked it!), and optics are murky meh at best. I'd sell it, except I can't in right conscience sell a lens that won't focus at infinity...

    There's also a super pancake flat Pentax M42 Takumar with, I think, fixed focus. But adapting it might be risky due to tolerances. Or maybe not... given the enormous DOF.

    The Pentax 67 Fisheye was very good. Some of my favorite images were shot with it. So I know a good Fisheye is perfectly doable. Maybe the Minolta?

    Edit: there's also a Pentax M42 17/4 that looks newer than the pancake...

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    I have the Sigma EX DG 2.8 Fisheye, and i am very happy with this. It is very well built for the most part, and small. Very sharp even at 2.8. This one is made for the FF Sony and i use this on my A900.
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    Re: Fisheye options?

    For seldom use of such a lens I have my Samyang 8mm (less than $300) for all my cameras ... Canon, NEX, NX, Lumix.

    It has top quality and a low price.

    Samyang, Vivitar, Falcon, Polar, Walimex, Opteka, Bower, Rokinon ...
    all made by Samyang in Korea




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    Re: Fisheye options?

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    I have the Minolta 16mm f/2.8. The Sony lens is identical, it just says Sony on it. As I recall, it's 180 diagonally. Excellent quality IMHO, it's one of my favorite lenses for the special things it does so well. My only beef is I wish they had put something I could use in the selection of internal filters, like a 30CC Magenta or a 2 stop ND. Here are a couple of snapshots taken with it on the a900:



    α900+VG|F20|2xF58|16-35,24-70,135Z|STF|70-400G|50,85 1.4|16,20,28,100M,80-200APO f/2.8|28-135|500f/8|1x-3xMacro|2xMFC-1000|Tiltall+RRS, Bellows, etc.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Nice shots. The Sigma and Minolta seem to be the ones to get for a FF camera... Neither seems to be particularly available used. And new they're pretty close; about $600 for the Sigma new, and $750 for the Sony. I'll probably pick whichever I find used first at a reasonable price.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    The Minolta 16 shows up periodically on Dyxum for $4-500. Keep an eye out, they are out there.
    α900+VG|F20|2xF58|16-35,24-70,135Z|STF|70-400G|50,85 1.4|16,20,28,100M,80-200APO f/2.8|28-135|500f/8|1x-3xMacro|2xMFC-1000|Tiltall+RRS, Bellows, etc.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Thank you! I didn't realize Dyxum has classifieds!

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Haven't seen anything in the Dyxum classifieds (despite trawling once or twice a week), but I did get a Fujinon EBC 16/2.8 Fish-Eye (M42) on ebay.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    One just popped up -- better hurry! It's a bit pricey once you convert from euros but it's available and was posted about 30 minutes ago.
    α900+VG|F20|2xF58|16-35,24-70,135Z|STF|70-400G|50,85 1.4|16,20,28,100M,80-200APO f/2.8|28-135|500f/8|1x-3xMacro|2xMFC-1000|Tiltall+RRS, Bellows, etc.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Well, turns out the Fujinon doesn't work on the A850. There's no A/M switch on the lens, so the aperture stays wide open no matter what. And none of the adapters I have will permit infinity focus. Oh well.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Sorry to hear about that. Keep an eye on that 16, the price may drop. At the current price I'd get the Sony with the warranty instead.
    α900+VG|F20|2xF58|16-35,24-70,135Z|STF|70-400G|50,85 1.4|16,20,28,100M,80-200APO f/2.8|28-135|500f/8|1x-3xMacro|2xMFC-1000|Tiltall+RRS, Bellows, etc.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    If you don't absolutely have to have a fisheye, but want a superwide, there's the Samyang (Rokinon, Bower, Falcon etc.) 14/2.8. From everything I've read it's resolution is quite remarkable, and it's cheap, about $350 new.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    I don't think the Samyang is a fisheye, though - is it?

    It turns out the aperture was easily resolved: bend the auto pin a little, then push it in to wedge it in place.

    Still no infinity focus, however infinity is nice and crisp at f/8, and indoors perhaps at f/5.6, for a subject a few yards away f/4. I may see if I can find a better adapter... This is an excellent lens, so might be worth trying a few.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    You mentioned clearance in the OP. Is the lens M42? If so I can't recommend James Lao's adapters highly enough. The ebay adapter I started with would bottom out the Mirex adapter on the too-wide chip and prevent it from screwing all the way in. Not to mention the glue in the threads. You get what you pay for. With Jame's adapter the Mirex screws down tight like it should. Maybe you are having a similar issue?
    α900+VG|F20|2xF58|16-35,24-70,135Z|STF|70-400G|50,85 1.4|16,20,28,100M,80-200APO f/2.8|28-135|500f/8|1x-3xMacro|2xMFC-1000|Tiltall+RRS, Bellows, etc.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    I tried to order a couple of adapters off his site, but am not entirely sure what I ended up with...

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    I guess nothing at all; just got a refund.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

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    How is your fisheye

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Mark, I only did some quick testing but haven't shot anything I'd keep yet. Waiting for a better adapter to arrive first... Nice shot!

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Got a couple of James Lao's adapters, and still the same problem. If I put the lens on the only M42 body I have (Bessaflex TM) it reaches infinity just fine. If I put it on my old Canon D30 with an EOS-M42 adapter it's fine. But on the Sony - no infinity focus. All the adapters I have are exactly the same thickness as far as I can tell using a pair of calipers. My other M42 lenses are all fine!

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Okay, thinned one of the adapters with a Dremel, and it's usable now. The lens shows a fair amount of chromatic aberration, but it cleans up very easily in LR3 using a -40 red/cyan setting. A bit soft around the corners, but perfectly acceptable. Extremely well controlled flare and ghosting.






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    Re: Fisheye options?

    In hindsight, I probably should have just bought the Sony...

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    In hindsight, I probably should have just bought the Sony...


    At the beginning I was a bit reluctant to use Sony glass because I had previously used only Zeiss. However, I started to become a fan of the old Minolta look (not to be confused with the look of recent lenses) which include the Sony 20/2.8, 35/1.4G and 50/1.4.

    Also fisheyes are very easy to design and most are of good quality because they don't need much corrections.

    So, I too would have chosen the Sony.
    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    I have a Sony that I have barely used (as "mint" as they come with retail box and all else that came with it)....not a big fisheye person, even though when I bought it, I had hopes of using it.

    Just put mine up for sale in the buy/sell area.

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    A900 with a few lenses, flashes etc.

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    Re: Fisheye options?

    Got a Sony Fisheye - and it's a great little lens. Unfortunately, it won't focus to infinity either. And upon close examination it turns out NONE of my other lenses do either, other than those that will turn past infinity. Time to send the a850 off to Sony...

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