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    Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Hi, NEX users, I wanted to give everyone a head's up about this new adapter that someone posted about on dpreview. It has a little lever that expands the adapter out a few millimeters, which lets you focus much closer than normal with M lenses. It's like a mini macro tube built in. I just ordered one myself.

    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...hread=38833996

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Great idea!
    I don't have any M glass left in the closet!

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    pretty price .... golden with diamonds?






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    That's nice, and Hawk is good to deal with. Hmmm....this could be very cool, getting rid of the one thing I don't like about adapted M lenses...

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    I just got this Hawks adapter in the mail a few minutes ago, and, I must say, I am THRILLED so far. The fit and finish is very good, and the Helicoid is pretty smooth, although not as smooth as my M lenses. The adapter seems pretty lightweight, so I don't know what combo of lightweight metals and/or plastic is used in this thing, but it feels sturdy, and I don't mind the lighter weight.

    In my initial test with a ZM C-Biogon 35/2.8, this adapter seems to nail infinity, and the mfd has been decreased from .7m to an incredible .27m (about .2m working distance.) If you are being driven nuts by the long mfd's of M lenses, and you don't mind spending the money, I think this thing is a no brainer. I've owned generic brand, Metabones, and Voigtlander M adapters, and I have a feeling they'll all be for sale, soon. Brilliant!

    ZM C-Biogon 35/2.8 test shot at its new mfd:


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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Very cool!

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    Sweet! When you have it set to close focus, what is the furthest out it will focus?

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Sweet! When you have it set to close focus, what is the furthest out it will focus?
    Just about 4 or 5 inches (I'm eyeballing it.) The good thing is, since the adapter has an actual helicoid, you can adjust the amount of close focus, so you can easily transition from .7m to .27m smoothly without any gaps.

    I had come up with a concept for this kind of thing a number of months back, but my idea was an on-or-off kinda deal. This helicoid makes all of the difference, because it feels natural and doesn't have any gaps where focus is lost. Just twist the lens focus ring until you get to mfd, and then twist the adapter focus ring to go farther. Super awesome!
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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Here is a quick and dirty example of the C-Biogon 35 at its old and new mfd. Pretty drastic improvement:



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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Absolutely fantastic! This adapter will surely be on my shopping list when I buy the Nex 7 in a couple of months
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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Did anybody measure thickness of this adapter and compared it to "normal" adapters? For some reason this one seems thicker to me.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Hi, Zoran. The Hawks adapter looks to be about the same thickness as my other adapters when retracted, and then it extends out a few millimeters or so when turning the helicoid. It could be ever so slightly thicker than the Voigtalnder, but I don't have measuring tools capable of detecting the small difference. I think it just looks thicker, because the Voigtlander has more cut outs in the design, whereas the Hawks is more of a solid tube.

    I've only played around with my C-Biogon, so far, but, with that particular lens, this adapter nails infinity when retracted.

    I'm starting to feel a little stupid for buying 2 Voigtlander adapters for $180 each, considering how much more useful this Hawks adapter is. The only negative to the design is that there is a gap in the helicoid when extended that could let dust into the helicoid over time, but I'm not worried about it. I've seen some complain about a little bit of play in the lens, but mine is so minute that I didn't really even notice it. Maybe I got lucky with my copy?

    p.s. I just threw on my Nokton 35/1.4, and it does well with infinity, too. It still may be slightly past infinity, but it is very close, and I'd have to test more thoroughly.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Douglas, thank you for your helpful reply It seems I will have to add this adapter to my list of things to check out because closer focusing distances with my M-mount glass are thing I keep iwshing for.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    I just got this Hawks adapter in the mail a few minutes ago, and, I must say, I am THRILLED so far. The fit and finish is very good, and the Helicoid is pretty smooth, although not as smooth as my M lenses. The adapter seems pretty lightweight, so I don't know what combo of lightweight metals and/or plastic is used in this thing, but it feels sturdy, and I don't mind the lighter weight.
    Douglas, thank you for the heads up. I was on the brink of selling my M-Rokkor 40/2 because the minimum focusing distance drove me crazy. When I tried to buy the Hawk's adapter ten days ago they were sold out but I sent Hawk a message asking when new stock would be available and he emailed me yesterday to say that the adapters were listed on eBay again. I bought one (the eBay item number is 320735472335) and when I just checked there were 7 available. I suspect they'll sell pretty quickly.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    I don't think you'll be disappointed, Jonathon. It is a brilliant concept.

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    The concept is brilliant, I agree. The only thing I wish for is a locking pin keeping the adapter safely in normal position.
    Now I have to check that several times a day. It doesn't matter a lot but sometimes I get surprised by the focusing ring position and the amount of adjustment I have to do. I'm also still not sure about not having a lens with floating elements at the wrong register distance.

    /Jonas

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    The lack of a locking pin doesn't bother me, and I'm used to always returning my lens to infinity after shooting, so doing that with two rings seems natural enough to me.

    I agree that floating element lenses may have issues, but I guess being able to focus up close with a few IQ issues is better than not being able to focus up close at all, no? I don't own any floating element lenses, so I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasf13 View Post
    The lack of a locking pin doesn't bother me, and I'm used to always returning my lens to infinity after shooting, so doing that with two rings seems natural enough to me.
    So do I. My problem is that the adapter ring every so often seem to have moved. That's probably due to my clumsy fingers.

    I agree that floating element lenses may have issues, but I guess being able to focus up close with a few IQ issues is better than not being able to focus up close at all, no? I don't own any floating element lenses, so I'm not sure.
    Oh yes. My concern is about situations when I miss that the adapter ring has been turned somewhat and I'm not taking close-ups. As I said, Hawk's helicoid adapters are brilliant but I have started to think I would manage better with an ordinary adapter.

    The above is what I think when it comes to my 50Lux. As it goes down to 0.7 meter normally it really doesn't need shorter MFD. I'll see how the helicoid adapter feels when using the CV 35/1.2 (when the MkII version gets available).

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    Ah, I gotcha now. That makes sense. I don't have any issues if the adapter turns slightly, since I don't have any fle lenses.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathon Delacour View Post
    I suspect they'll sell pretty quickly.
    Sold out. (15 adapters purchased in about 27 hours.)

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    Thanks for the post updating Hawk's availability, Jonathon. One of them is on the way to me.

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    Got it today, this is by far the best M adapter for NEX.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Agreed. Glad you like it, monza. It is apparently made out of anodized aluminum, and I like that it is so lightweight. As long as there are never any issues with dust getting in that helicoid, I'm only using the Hawks from here on out.

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    Build quality is excellent, and as you say lightweight. Completely transforms M lenses...as your photos above show very clearly.

    Also picked up the Jtec quick release (got the standard, not the L.)

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Umm, the ebay page mentioned at DPreview lists the adapter for $179...
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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Another happy customer... My 0.5m min-focus Nokton can now focus at about 6 inches (from the front element of the lens). Perfect infinity focus.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Could someone post the link here. Not a link to a link to a link. The one everyone is raving about as I am having some difficulty locating it. When I search for the guy on eBay, I only get ended auctions.
    Carlos Echenique | Carlos Echenique Photography |Olympus OM-D E-M1 MK II | Olympus Pen-F - M.Zuiko 17mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 25mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 45mm f/1.8, Rokinon 12mm f/2 NCS, M.Zuiko 75mm f/1.8, M.Zuiko 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO, M.Zuiko 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    link

    If it's sold out, search for "LEICA-M L-M to SONY NEX E-mount MACRO TUBE HELICOID" and save the search so ebay will email you whenever one becomes available. Looks like a new batch is now available ;-)

    By the way, I just tested with two more M lenses: 50'cron DR, and CV 50/2 Heliar and the infinity wasn't as spot on as with the 35mm Nokton. Only a hair off.

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    Thanks Hosermage
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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    any one else try these? i have m lenses looking forward to getting into the nex system.

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    My CV35/1.2 I focuses a tiny past infinity. The focus is not as smooth as with a regular lens. However, I'm extremely happy with the purchase.

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    I'm waiting for mine to arrive.
    Sounds exciting (game changing for me if it works)
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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Hi, is your version I or version II? One thing I find is that if it's slightly past infinity, you can always adjust it on the helicoid to bring it back to exact infinity. Then you can continue to use your lens as normal because normal focusing doesn't change the helicoid (unless you accidentally turn it). So, for me, I just need to tweak it slightly if I change lenses and forget about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by hiepphotog View Post
    My CV35/1.2 I focuses a tiny past infinity. The focus is not as smooth as with a regular lens. However, I'm extremely happy with the purchase.

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    I'm using it.
    The only problem is when trying to focus on infi. I need to pay some attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    That's nice, and Hawk is good to deal with. Hmmm....this could be very cool, getting rid of the one thing I don't like about adapted M lenses...
    where do i find the hawk's adapter, on ebay?
    thanks should get my nex 5n thursday1

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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    I came across a 50/2.8 EL Nikkor enlarger lens, with an extension tube of some sort attached (Leica 14020.) Since it has 39mm threads, I attached it to an LTM adapter and put it on the Hawk adapter...voila, instant 75mm equivalent f/2.8, with the Hawk adapter helical for focusing.

    Looks like I need a slightly longer extension tube, as this would give closer focus, and not focus past infinity, but it works as it sits.


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    I love this adapter. Here is a little write up I did on my blog.

    http://dclindesign.wordpress.com/201...ica-nex-macro/

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    This is great! I'm getting one.


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    I can't find it anywhere? Anyone can recommend who is selling it? It's not on eBay.


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    Re: Super cool new M to NEX adapter

    Hawk manufacturers these in batches. He was between batches when I wanted one but emailed me a couple weeks later to let me know they were available. You can contact him through his ebay store here: http://myworld.ebay.com/hawks_factory

    And I really like the adapter!
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