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    all with the 18-55 kit lens. It's better than it has any right to be (especially the bokeh), but I'd like something a little better and a little wider (equivalent to the 12-60 4/3 Zuiko perhaps).
    I have a feeling Jono that when I next see you it will be with an OM D5 in your bag!! I was talking to the local Oly rep and he told me that they under-estimated the demand for this camera and hit is as hot as hell.......see you in May

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    all with the 18-55 kit lens. It's better than it has any right to be (especially the bokeh), but I'd like something a little better and a little wider (equivalent to the 12-60 4/3 Zuiko perhaps).
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gordon View Post
    I have a feeling Jono that when I next see you it will be with an OM D5 in your bag!! I was talking to the local Oly rep and he told me that they under-estimated the demand for this camera and hit is as hot as hell.......see you in May
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    HI Bill
    Well, I was talking of the 12-60 f2.8-f4 4/3, not the m.4/3 12-50 f3.5-f6.3 . . . but hey, you never know! I certainly think the OMD looks the business. it's obviously better at AF than the NEX as well.

    But the NEX7 seems to me to have better IQ, and a better EVF
    The other advantage of the NEX7 is focus peaking - IMHO it's the one most important development in EVF cameras over the last 18 months.

    Looking forwards to seeing you and Jeremy as well Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Today it rained all day . . . then we had a thunderstorm . . . . and then the sun came out.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    A testient to the importance of light.
    Lovely images.
    +1 and the importance of being there ready to capture the beautiful light.
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    Nex - 7 plus 24mm lux

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    Same setup.

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    More of the same -

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    The Zen of Citibank. Same setup three frames stitched.


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    Thanks Woody
    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    Nex - 7 plus 24mm lux

    . . . . more of the same
    Excellent Woody - I prefer more of the same I think.

    . . . and another testament to the importance of light.

    it's a pity isn't it, one always wants one's photography to transcend the conditions . . . but somehow it never does!

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    Here is a serie on the cathedral of Amiens. A very impressive structure.
    All with the Minolta MD 20/2.8

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    Hi all!! Love the stuff everybody is putting together...

    Not much time for shooting (or forum lurking ) lately. Just some street shots from today, all shot with Nex-7 Voightlander Nokton Classic 40 MC.


    Street Art by Photon-hunter, on Flickr


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    Thanks for watching!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Photon-hunter View Post
    Hi all!! Love the stuff everybody is putting together...

    Not much time for shooting (or forum lurking ) lately. Just some street shots from today, all shot with Nex-7 Voightlander Nokton Classic 40

    Thanks for watching!!
    It's always a pleasure Erik. Fantastic photos.

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    Love the last one, Erik!
    Although they are probably just tourists it does look very theatrical.

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    Thanks for the comments.

    @Michiel: yes, tourists indeed. Your comment made me think though. I was also in the same spot taking pictures (though itīs my own city), but you immediately associated them with tourists and not with fellow photographers. Probably because of the point-and-shootish pose or because of the fact that they are taking the picture simultaneously, but I find it an interesting thought anyhow. Probably just me and my mental dispersion...

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    A few shots from a woodland walk with the NEX7 and Sigma 30mm.

    Red trillium



    Old split rail fence



    False Hellebore



    Marsh marigold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photon-hunter View Post
    Thanks for the comments.

    @Michiel: yes, tourists indeed. Your comment made me think though. I was also in the same spot taking pictures (though itīs my own city), but you immediately associated them with tourists and not with fellow photographers. Probably because of the point-and-shootish pose or because of the fact that they are taking the picture simultaneously, but I find it an interesting thought anyhow. Probably just me and my mental dispersion...

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    More wild weather here . . . now it's just set into pouring with rain.
    Here are a couple shots over the last 24 hours, either with the kit zoom or with the 18-200.

    First of all some flowers









    These ones are a bit more structural





    This one is my favourite I think


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I have to say . . . If I lived in the Canary Islands I think I might be subject to a little mental dispersion
    LOL

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    Lovely photos guys. Does anyone use the camera for sports or non stationary subjects? The sony a900 is just such a dog sometimes that I hate carrying it around. I want to take pics of triathlons and open water swimming. I have the lenses covered but I am really getting tired of the a900.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikalWGrass View Post
    Lovely photos guys. Does anyone use the camera for sports or non stationary subjects? The sony a900 is just such a dog sometimes that I hate carrying it around. I want to take pics of triathlons and open water swimming. I have the lenses covered but I am really getting tired of the a900.

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    Mikal - I use the NEX-7 regularly to shoot soccer and track meets. I shoot with the LEA-2 adapter and primarily with the Sony G 70-400 lens or the Zeiss 24-70. Using the adapter, you get phase-detect AF with all it's bells and whistles (continuous focus, object tracking, etc). You can also select the "speed priority mode" and get 10fps, with focus and exposure locked on the first shot in the burst.

    Once I learned how well the NEX-7 works this way with the LEA-2 adapter and Alpha-mount lenses, I sold my A77 and now only use the NEX-7 for all my sports shooting.

    I would not shoot sports with a native E-mount lens on the NEX-7, as the contrast-detect AF system is not up to the task.
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    Nex-7 + Minolta 16mm Fisheye + LA-EA2







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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hatam View Post
    Once I learned how well the NEX-7 works this way with the LEA-2 adapter and Alpha-mount lenses, I sold my A77 and now only use the NEX-7 for all my sports shooting.
    Interesting Mike, thanks. I'm in the position of thinking of changing from my A900, as I just don't use it enough now that I have the GXR plus A12 Mount and a bunch of ZM lenses.

    The only thing I miss is something for occasional wildlife or motor sports, and the NEX plus LEA-2 may be a solution, however the lack of image stabilisation could be a problem. I have decided that now that compact cameras are so good in IQ , I don't really want another DSLR, as I hate looking like the paparazzi.

    Though I could part with the A900, I'm very reluctant to sell the Zeiss 24-70 135/1.8 or the 70-400G lenses as they are so nice. If anyone wants to swop a NEX-7 plus LEA-2 for an A900...

    Interested in thoughts on this, however perhaps we can start another thread rather than clutter up this excellent thread.
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    David - the loss of Image Stabilization when moving from A900 or A77 to NEX-7 can be an issue. I typically shoot sports on a monopod, which helps alleviate the issue.

    I'm looking at some of the Sigma lenses (alpha mount) as options, as you can get those with OSS built in to the lens. If they ever released the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 OSS in an Alpha mount, that would be the perfect sports lens for my use. Several others are already available - you may want to check those out.
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    Thanks Mike, and I'm looking forward to your article on Steve's site about the NEX-7 plus adaptor. I have more or less decided to trade my A900 for NEX-7 kit, keeping most of my existing Alpha mount lenses, though I may sell a few of the less used ones, we'll see.
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    David,

    I sold my Zeiss 24-70/2.8 because it was too slow at the focal length I was shooting at most of the time. I replaced it with a Leica R 50/1.4 and had it adapted by Leitax. It is a pretty good combo but I am used to using an M6 with an M 50/1.4 with no mirror.

    I also have the Zeiss 135/1.8 and I recently bought a Minolta 24/2.8 and 85/1.4 from KEH. Both work well on the a900 and will work equally as well on a Nex 7, should I go that route.

    I am not all that keen on IS because for years I never used it, and for my style of shooting it really doesn't make all that much difference.

    Truthfully, the only thing preventing me from ditching or trading the a900 is the fact that it is full frame. I like full frame cameras. If I trade it or sell it for the Nex 7, I will probably also buy a CV 35/1.2 version 2 to give me something that approximates a 50 mm lens.

    No need for another thread.

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    Thanks MikalWGrass, the Leica R option sounds really nice!
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    David, the R lenses with Leitax adapters are good solutions for the a900. The glass is excellent but you lose the autofocus component of the Zeiss lenses made for the body.

    The only issue I had with using the R lens was that the focus confirmation was different depending upon which way you focused the lens. If you focus from the lens being wide open, which I am guess is the proper way to focus the lens because of the stop down metering, the focus confirmation comes on at a different time then when you are focusing from the camera from the other direction, opening up the lens. It can be a bit maddening, but like all things you can get used to it.

    My eyes are getting worse so I am kind of moving towards auto focus lenses at least for the a900 and the Nex 7 if I get one of those.

    Just when I thought it was safe to go back into the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hatam View Post
    David - the loss of Image Stabilization when moving from A900 or A77 to NEX-7 can be an issue. I typically shoot sports on a monopod, which helps alleviate the issue.

    I'm looking at some of the Sigma lenses (alpha mount) as options, as you can get those with OSS built in to the lens. If they ever released the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 OSS in an Alpha mount, that would be the perfect sports lens for my use. Several others are already available - you may want to check those out.

    this indeed is interesting. If sigma make OSS lens for alpha mount does it mean you can you both in body image stabilization and optical stabilization at the same time to get even more stops of stabilization or does it disable in body IS?

    Thats one reason why i wend and got the ef to nex smart adapter, as EF lens IS`works well on the nex, esp my 100-400L. IS USM

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    Mazor - it's not a good idea to use both IS systems at the same time (in-body and in-lens). They don't work well together, and actually end up causing a shaky image, as they constantly try to correct for each other.

    Typically, in-lens is more effective than in-body, but it depends on the IS implementation, so if you have both forms available to you, you might experiment to see which is more effective, and then use that one.

    I personally would select a Sigma lens with OS in alpha mount (along with the LEA-2 adapter) over a Canon IS lens with smart adapter. With the Sigma/LEA-2 combo, you'll get both OS and AF.

    Here are a couple of good sports lenses from Sigma (alpha mount) with OS:

    Sigma 70-200 f2.8 APO DG OS:
    Amazon.com: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 APO EX DG HSM OS FLD Large Aperture Telephoto Zoom Lens for Sony Digital DSLR Camera: Camera & Photo

    Sigma 50-500 f4.5-6.3 APO DG OS:
    Amazon.com: Sigma 50-500mm f/4.5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM SLD Ultra Telephoto Zoom Lens for Sony Digital DSLR Camera: Camera & Photo


    The 70-200 f2.8 is well reviewed as a very sharp lens with fast AF. The 50-500 is slower and a notch lower in IQ, but with more reach. More of a wildlife lens, if there's good light.
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    thanks mike for that info, will keep that in mind for more toys for my nex. Guess for me, since I already have a Canon tele zoom with IS plus a few L lens may as well get some use on nex. Lucky that the 100-400L uses a push pull to zoom, and rotate to focus, so in one action can zoom and focus simultaneously.

    so it is confirmed ideal combo sports fr nex would be la-e2 with sigma OS lens, to get both fast phase based AF that can track and image stabilization in lens.

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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    Very nice image, Vivek!
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Final thoughts on using the NEX-7 / LEA-2 combo for sports...

    It's not perfect. The A77 has the advantage of in-camera stabilization, as well as a better high-speed mode (AF and exposure are recalculated for every shot). With the NEX-7, if the subjects are moving really fast (birds, cars, etc), then I switch to the lower drive speed of 3fps to get the AF/exposure recalculated for each shot. In the high speed 10 fps mode, the are locked on the first shot of any burst.

    For soccer players at a distance, this isn't a big deal, as they generally will not move out of focus within a 1 second burst. But keep this in mind depending on what you are shooting.

    Overall, the Canon 7D is slightly better than the A77 at tracking AF on moving subjects. The NEX-7 is about equal to the A77, when using the LEA-2 adapter and center-point AF (with object tracking on). Outer AF points on the LEA-2 are not as good for tracking moving subjects.

    One advantage that the A77 and NEX-7 have over the 7D is the ability to shoot very high quality video with moving subjects, while using the EVF (rather than the rear LCD). I shot a 100M sprint race at a track event on Saturday, with the runners coming straight at me (I was positioned on the track about 10 yards past the finish line), and I got excellent video of the runners coming straight toward the camera. Focus was perfect, object tracking worked great, and I was able to zoom out (using Sony G 70-400) as the runners got closer to the line. I would not have been able to capture that video nearly as well with a Canon 7D.
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    Mike, Thank you (the lady's expression made the image)! After "discovering" the NEX-C3, I hardly ever lug this camera. It was a bit of a struggle to choose a longish fast lens. Ended up taking the Fujinon.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Quote Originally Posted by Photon-hunter View Post
    Hi all!! Love the stuff everybody is putting together...

    Not much time for shooting (or forum lurking ) lately. Just some street shots from today, all shot with Nex-7 Voightlander Nokton Classic 40 MC.




    Thanks for watching!!
    Knew this was the Nokton as soon as I saw these. Love the rendering and nice compositions. I had just dug mine out of the lens drawer with the intention of shooting the 7 with it for a couple weeks exclusively.

    Here is one from the garden...



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    Nex7 + Summilux 50 ASPH.


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    I recently sold my A850 after getting the Nex-7. I don't see the Nex-7 as a "replacement" for the A850/900. With the LA-EA2 and big Zeiss Alpha lenses, Nex-7 becomes unwieldy and lack of IS can be an issue. These lenses balance better on the Sony FF bodies. AF is also an issue - AF on A850 is far superior to that on the Nex-7 (with or without LA-EA2). A850 could seemingly focus on flat white walls if I had to - Nex-7 falls flat in many situations where the A850 just locked focus.

    If you don't mind the size, A850/A900 are (IMO) better for still photography than any Nex-7 solution.

    My reason for moving to the Nex-7 was primarily high IQ in a small size. I am under no illusion however, that this somehow can serve as a replacement for the A850 or A900.

    I did keep my Zeiss ZA 24mm. This and other Zeiss Alpha lenses are simply too good to sell!

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    Interesting Mike, thanks. I'm in the position of thinking of changing from my A900, as I just don't use it enough now that I have the GXR plus A12 Mount and a bunch of ZM lenses.

    The only thing I miss is something for occasional wildlife or motor sports, and the NEX plus LEA-2 may be a solution, however the lack of image stabilisation could be a problem.................

    Though I could part with the A900, I'm very reluctant to sell the Zeiss 24-70 135/1.8 or the 70-400G lenses as they are so nice. If anyone wants to swop a NEX-7 plus LEA-2 for an A900...
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

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    I recently sold my A850 after getting the Nex-7. I don't see the Nex-7 as a "replacement" for the A850/900. With the LA-EA2 and big Zeiss Alpha lenses, Nex-7 becomes unwieldy and lack of IS can be an issue. These lenses balance better on the Sony FF bodies. AF is also an issue - AF on A850 is far superior to that on the Nex-7 (with or without LA-EA2). A850 could seemingly focus on flat white walls if I had to - Nex-7 falls flat in many situations where the A850 just locked focus.

    If you don't mind the size, A850/A900 are (IMO) better for still photography than any Nex-7 solution.

    My reason for moving to the Nex-7 was primarily high IQ in a small size. I am under no illusion however, that this somehow can serve as a replacement for the A850 or A900.

    I did keep my Zeiss ZA 24mm. This and other Zeiss Alpha lenses are simply too good to sell!
    Hi Jaree, and thanks for your perspective on this. I suppose it all depends on the type of photography you do most. You make an entirely sensible argument in favour of the A900 for still photography.

    Its sad that Sony appear to be abandoning the OVF and that the A900/850 will be the last of their breed.

    I find that these days, my needs for a fast AF DSLR type camera have diminished, and that the camera I carry will tend to be a compact with high quality primes. I feel that for wildlife on a tripod, or sports on a monopod, that I could probably get by with the NEX + LA-EA2 and my Alpha lenses which like you I don't want to give up entirely.

    I went through this in film days, from heavy SLR gear to compact 35mm cameras
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    With the Contax G 90mm.

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    A few shots from a woodland walk with the NEX7 and Sigma 30mm.



    I hadn't quite realised just how much the Sigma 30mm gave a "3D" effect until I saw this picture! I'm sold!

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    Here is a serie from Queensday in Amsterdam - so much orange in the streets that it drove me crazy - with the C/Y Zeiss Planar 100/2.
    Mostly shot @2.8
    What a great lens for separating objects from the background.

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    Nice shots, Michiel

    Here is a single shot HDR, sometimes the only way I can catch the way things appear. Nex-7 with 18-200 Tamron

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    Nice compo of light and shadows, Keith.

    Just for fun; some bokeh pictures with a very old silver Meyer Telemegor 180/5.5
    Passed by very cheap and I could not let it go

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    A quick, chance grab with what I had. Did not have time to focus, etc.


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    Some more fun with the NEX 7 in black & white. This time with the 16mm.



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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    More store windows with different lenses and the last one with the new Sigma 19mm AF lens. Totally forgot how lazy AF is, although I think I don't use the right focus method.
    Did not find my first trys very correctly focussed. Go to try central spot instead of multi point focussing.
    First time the two wheels on top of the NEX-7 came to use, very nice.
    Did not need them with the manual lenses.

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