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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    1600 ISO is perfectlly useable. Off to take a few sample shots (although the weather is rubbish).
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Thanks for this pic Jono. I am thinking about this lens with NEX-7 (chauffeur is on its way) and skip the kitlens.
    What do you think? Can it handle the resolution? This looks good but best is to see it life when you handle the RAW files.

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    Whoops mistake!

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Two 1600ISO shots with the kit zoom, first one has some Neat NR not least because it was quite underexposed, the second, none. Both from Raw files





    The 1600ISO noise is even and grain like, so easy meat for Neat or similar. Useable

    I notice the camera tends towards slight underexposure - or it might just be the dull flat lighting.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    or it might just be the dull flat lighting.

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    I would lean towards that thought.

    (I have seen fine folks wasting a whole lot of time saying "my new camera under exposes".)

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    My view is this has a lower noise sensor than the full frame A900. That's impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I would lean towards that thought.

    (I have seen fine folks wasting a whole lot of time saying "my new camera under exposes".)
    On reflection, I am sure this is right. The histo is concentrated in the middle, classic signs of low contrast lighting. Otherwise called England in Winter!
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    It is called the "Dutch light" here.

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    Grrrrr....this camera is so good I'm going to have to do a Jono and buy better lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Grrrrr....this camera is so good I'm going to have to do a Jono and buy better lenses.
    or three.....

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Grrrrr....this camera is so good I'm going to have to do a Jono and buy better lenses.
    I wouldn't recommend the Leica 21-35 zoom (okay but not stellar)

    on the other hand:
    the 28-90 R zoom is fab
    the 180 f2.8 APO R is also great

    as for M lenses - important to get the Hawks Factory helicoid adaptor for these
    16-18-21 WATE is good (even wide open)
    24 'lux is excellent (corners fine, no colour cast)
    50 'lux also great
    50 f0.95 is wonderful

    still to try:
    28 'cron (I suspect this one)
    90 slim Elmarit (sure it'll be good)
    75 'cron (sure this'll be good too)


    . . . . . but actually, the Sony lenses seem pretty good too, even the much maligned 16mm

    hmmm add that up . . . no, on second thoughts please don't

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    I think I will stick to the Sony lenses - and others that come out in what is going to be a very popular mount. Those Leica efforts may be fab, but I'm not inclidned to buy them if I don't actually own a Leica. Better start saving!!!
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Yup, mine arrived

    Battery is loading.....
    Here is the kit I have to start with because the C/Y adapter is the only one I have now. A lot more are coming No Sony lenses yet.
    I have 3 more Contax lenses, so enough to try out.

    Have a pleasant evening!

    (BTW Jono, I was talking about the pic of your nice cat with the Sony 18-200)

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Michiel - what program are you using to create your frames? This looks very nice.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Tried the 85mm F1.4 A mount Zeiss lens using the original Sony A to E mount adapter (the one without the focus mechanism - its quite a bit smaller). Shot at F/1.6, 800ISO:



    The 70-300G SSM will autofocus using the adapter because it has a built in motor, unlike the 85mm Zeis, but quite slowly (although accurately). Makes for a powerful, if somewhat large, zoom on the smaller sensor.

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    Michiel - what program are you using to create your frames? This looks very nice.
    Hi Terry,

    I do this in PS, I made an action for it. The only thing I have to do is copy/paste my logo and do the typing for text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Tried the 85mm F1.4 A mount Zeiss lens using the original Sony A to E mount adapter (the one without the focus mechanism - its quite a bit smaller). Shot at F/1.6, 800ISO:



    The 70-300G SSM will autofocus using the adapter because it has a built in motor, unlike the 85mm Zeis, but quite slowly (although accurately). Makes for a powerful, if somewhat large, zoom on the smaller sensor.

    Quentin
    That looks good. I was just wondering about that adapter.
    So no autofocus for all the Zeiss A lenses?

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Michiel

    Sony make two adapters. The original one only autofocuses with SSM lenses, like the 70-300. The more recent one offers full autofocus with all lenses, but at a price - its much bigger and heavier because of the built-in motor. I don't want to add that extra weight, but I do want to be able to use my A mount lenses with the Nex-7. Quite handy, I'd say!
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Michiel, there are two Alpha adapters: one without autofocus on all lenses and one with.

    LA-EA1 = AF on SSM lenses
    LA-EA2 = Phase detect AF on all lenses except teleconverters
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    Ah thank you Quentin and Carlos.
    I have seen that big adapter with that AF system but was not sure about that other one.
    I am used to MF lenses, if that works with those beautiful Zeiss lenses, then I am fine with that. It gives all the other information, I presume.
    So SSM lenses have all build in motors, I see.
    Sony is a bit of a new camera department for me.

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    This is what I get for preordering on Amazon. Never again. Two products, a hot android tablet and the NEX 7. I have neither nor any indications of when they will ship.

    The images from that Zeiss 24mm look surprisingly good. Good enough for me to keep watching BH for NEX 7 body only kit and the Zeiss. Anyone using Nikon lenses with the NEX? If so, which adapters do you recommend?

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    I've had very good results from the Fotodiox adapters. Reasonably priced, two year warranty, and they guarantee infinity focus.
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    Candidate for our 2012 Christmas card. Also trying a new framing and watermark.


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    From New Year's Eve, a shot with the Nex-7, Zeiss 85mm F1.4 with adapter, 1600ISO at F1.7 1/40 of my eldest son Alex who entertained us all with some amazing guitar playing.

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    (sony.de) - Vivat China!

    Drat! I have the middle one, which I used on an A900 (and could use on the Nex-7) so I could use a standard fit studio radio slave.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Went out with the NEX 7 in the drizzling rain.
    No problems with the menue system and everything works fine.
    Nicely designed body but ergonomicly speaking I prefer the Ricoh in the hand.
    It is far less a box with sharp corners.
    In standard mode the colours are a little different between the 2.
    But I had very little time to play around. I didn't want my brandnew baby to get wet.
    Viewfinder is bigger and focus peaking a little better but not much.
    Shutter release sound is twice as loud as the Ricoh.
    Handling with all the dials is real nice.
    Image quality; can't say much about it yet the that it looks really good.
    Can't compare certain lenses yet due a lack of adapters.
    But I am really content with both cameras.

    Here are two pics from today, nothing special with my kitlens.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Michiel, It must be your post processing that makes the weather look way more cheerful than it is!

    Are these from your GXR or the new NEX-7? Not being a nit-pick, just want to clarify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Michiel, It must be your post processing that makes the weather look way more cheerful than it is!

    Are these from your GXR or the new NEX-7? Not being a nit-pick, just want to clarify.
    NEX 7 Framework was still in GXR mode
    Thanks, I am going to change that.
    It has been changed!

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    It's going to be interesting to see how you will spend your time between these two cameras, Michiel. Should be lots of fun.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Flew back to SF this AM where I had my lenses. Grabbed the kit lens and my Contax G 35mm and went out for some brunch.











    And one very confused urban hummingbird that was attracted to the colors. This definitely took me by surprise! I got a few shots of the bird but the angles were a mess. Didn't have my NEX 7 decisive moment shooting locked in yet.
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    The hummingbird looks like painted.
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    Great stuff Terry
    Love the jug, and I always love graffiti - the hummingbird is great . . . maybe you needed a different lens though!
    Sometimes the remarkable is the unphotographable!

    Uwe - do you have a NEX7 yet, or are you finally going to give something a miss!

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    >Uwe - do you have a NEX7 yet, or are you finally going to give something a miss!

    I will try a friends. Not sure right now. I kind of expect Canon and Fuji to bring new interesting cameras.
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Love the graffiti shots :-)

    Today the sun has finally come out. Here are a few of the first low ISO shots I have been able to take with the Nex-7 and Kit lens





    Bit of fill flash with the built in unit next



    One of the things I am noticing is that the kit lens is reaching its limits. The edges really cannnot cope adequately with 24mp. Photoshop CS5 lens correction helps by successfully removing all CA and correcting for distortion but cannot help with the fall off in sharpness towards the edges.
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Took the NEX 7 with the Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 80-200/4 out to the harbour and really enjoyed the combination.
    The lens is long but thin and no problem to shoot out of hand. Only the last one was on a tripod because it was getting dark.
    Fantastic combination for this kind of work.
    The NEX is a joy to work with.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

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    Love the graffiti shots :-)

    Today the sun has finally come out. Here are a few of the first low ISO shots I have been able to take with the Nex-7 and Kit lens


    One of the things I am noticing is that the kit lens is reaching its limits. The edges really cannnot cope adequately with 24mp. Photoshop CS5 lens correction helps by successfully removing all CA and correcting for distortion but cannot help with the fall off in sharpness towards the edges.
    HI Quentin
    Agree about the kit lens - but I think it's a 'glass half full' issue - seems remarkable to me that it does as well as it does. That's a lot of baler twine you have . . .and that looks like a nice (if rather muddy) horse - have you started riding again?

    . . . incidentally I'm still at it (riding that is)

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Hi Jono

    No, its the wife wot rides. My riding days are probably over! Her xmas present was a rather splendid new saddle.

    We have a lot of bales...

    Now, on that lens, you are right up to a point, but I am sure Sony could do a "G" lens version at twice the cost with better edge performance. I'd buy it if they did....and I'll wager most of us on this forum would too.

    By the way, how long before Sigma or Tamron launch some E lenses?

    And Michiel, interesting but clearly successful choice of lens with your Nex-7. I think though the 70-300 G would be a better bet. Used it with the Nex-5 with some success.
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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Took the NEX 7 with the Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 80-200/4 out to the harbour and really enjoyed the combination.
    The lens is long but thin and no problem to shoot out of hand. Only the last one was on a tripod because it was getting dark.
    Fantastic combination for this kind of work.
    The NEX is a joy to work with.

    Michiel
    HI Michiel
    I like the middle one especially.
    I used to own that lens . . many years ago! Like you, I don't find longer lenses to be an issue on the NEX - just changes the centre of gravity, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. . . .
    but you done me bad . . . now I'm thinking about an 80-200!

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Busy today . . . very very busy

    Still, I managed to get out for 1/2 hour just before sunset.

    This guy insisted:


    Leica R 28-90 1000 ISO 1/60th focus peaking means that the point of focus is actually on his eye - I don't think any AF system would do that for me!


    Goldfinch - out of a dreary kitchen window - 18-200 1600 ISO


    The crows are gathering for bed Leica R 28-90 100 ISO 1/200th 90mm



    quiet sunset Leica R 28-90 100 ISO

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    My bad, Tamron have launched a 18-200mm E mount with very similar specs and price to the Sony version. Can't see the point; buy the Sony (is it any good??). Give me a smalller 18-100, 0r 16-80 or whatever and I'm all yours, Sigma / Tamron / Sony...

    Ha Jono, weather near you very similar to me, unsurprisingly. Went for long-ish walk with family to pub in Finchingfield but did not take any shots. Yours are nice.
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    And Michiel, interesting but clearly successful choice of lens with your Nex-7. I think though the 70-300 G would be a better bet. Used it with the Nex-5 with some success.
    Well - the AF will be better with the 70-300G - that's for sure! Actually, I do agree that it's a fine lens, but I've been finding that focusing with focus peaking is often preferable to AF - and if that's the case, you can just choose your favourite lens to go with it . . . . . I didn't use it today, but the 180 f2.8 APO R lens is a stellar companion!

    The Sony 18-200 is better than it has a right to be - but it is quite big.

    As for the riding - I rather like it - nobody gave me a lovely new saddle for christmas though! I'm actually trying to find one which will take a Leica M9 sized saddlebag - really not as easy as you might expect.

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    Used the nEX-7 today (a friends) and like the images.
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    Quentin, I suppose only with the new adapter I will get AF on the NEX?
    And like Jono I don't see much advantage with this camere for autofocus for a lot of my kind of shooting.
    For action yes, but I was thinking about the 18-200 for that. Actually I am half way buying it second hand. No adapter needed.
    BTW there was a test, forgot where, but the Sony came out just a little bit better, the Tamron is a little slimmer and black, though.

    Thanks, Jono, lots of smoke without smoking
    Agree, it is an ideal MF camera too.
    I like the crows; they got scared of the NEX shutter release ?

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Quentin, I suppose only with the new adapter I will get AF on the NEX?
    And like Jono I don't see much advantage with this camere for autofocus for a lot of my kind of shooting.
    For action yes, but I was thinking about the 18-200 for that. Actually I am half way buying it second hand. No adapter needed.
    I've started using MF on AF lenses . . . and on the A77 too - for so much of what I do it works just as well, and it's quite fast with a bit of practice

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    Thanks, Jono, lots of smoke without smoking
    Agree, it is an ideal MF camera too.
    I like the crows; they got scared of the NEX shutter release ?

    Michiel
    The shutter isn't too bad - and it's quite a good noise too.
    I'd like to blame the dog - but at that time of evening the crows (rooks?) are swirling around before going back to the trees where they live.

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    Played some time with a friend's NEX-7.





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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

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    Quentin, I suppose only with the new adapter I will get AF on the NEX?
    And like Jono I don't see much advantage with this camere for autofocus for a lot of my kind of shooting. ....

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    Hi Michiel

    You get autofocus with SSM lenses with the "old" adapter. But it is quite slow (slower than on an "A" mount camera).

    I also use manual focus quite a lot. 90% of the functions on the Nex 7 I won't use, but thankfully those I do need are easily accesible with the three dial system.

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    Hi Michiel

    I also use manual focus quite a lot. 90% of the functions on the Nex 7 I won't use, but thankfully those I do need are easily accesible with the three dial system.

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    Exactly my idea; ISO, WB, selftimer, Exposure compensation etc
    Also I am curious at Sweep panorama, but it is probably a gimmick you only use a few times. At least I don't see many images posted with this function.

    Here is one with a Yashica lens i still had laying around. Fits my only C/Y adapter.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Resistance is futile.... I have just ordered a Zeiss 24mm F1.8 lens for the Nex-7. hopefully this will be the lens that will do the sensor justice.

    Will report back when I have the lens and have taken a few shots with it.v On the E mount it will give a slightly wide field of view, about the ideal focal length for me.

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    Re: Fun with NEX-7

    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Bargate View Post
    Resistance is futile.... I have just ordered a Zeiss 24mm F1.8 lens for the Nex-7. hopefully this will be the lens that will do the sensor justice.
    Still resisting here . . . I've got the A mount f2 version . . .and the Leica f1.4 version . . . more 24's seems a little excessive

    I'll be interested to see how you get on though.

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