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    Has anybody tried the Leica-R Elmarit 28mm f2.8 on the Nex-7? Or any other legacy "symmetrical-design" Leica R lens? I am a bit concerned about color cast that is reported to be more of an issue with symmetrical lenses like these on the Nex-7 than the 5N.

    Am I right this is not an issue if the images are converted to B&W or are other qualities of the image apart from color also effected by drinking old wine from this new bottle?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by lowep View Post
    Has anybody tried the Leica-R Elmarit 28mm f2.8 on the Nex-7? Or any other legacy "symmetrical-design" Leica R lens? I am a bit concerned about color cast that is reported to be more of an issue with symmetrical lenses like these on the Nex-7 than the 5N.

    Am I right this is not an issue if the images are converted to B&W or are other qualities of the image apart from color also effected by drinking old wine from this new bottle?
    HI There
    I'd be very surprised if you had any issue with any of the R lenses - the distance from the rear element to the sensor should be far enough to ensure that the incidence of light doesn't create any issues.
    Can't be certain of course, but it's certainly not something I've seen on any of the R lenses I used (including the 21-35).

    I hope this re-assures. Of course, black and white will be fine anyway.

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    Anyone have any comments about the focusing ring smoothness of the Kipon or Metabones adapter for Contax G? Also, does the Kipon adapter "lock" onto the lens like the Metabones one?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Contax G 35, 45, and 90 - all good on both the 5N and 7.
    Contax G 28 - Good on 5N but magenta corners and smearing on the 7.
    Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 C ZM - Good on 5N, magenta corners and edges on 7.
    Canon FD 28mm f/2 - Good on both 5N and 7.
    Konica AR 40mm f/1.8 - Good on both 5N and 7.
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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Contax G 35, 45, and 90 - all good on both the 5N and 7.
    Contax G 28 - Good on 5N but magenta corners and smearing on the 7.
    ...
    I can confirm that and add :
    Sony NEX 16mm f2,8 - Good on 5N but magenta corners on the 7.
    Leica 24mm Elmar-M - Good on 5N but magenta corners on the 7.
    Leica 35mm Summilux Asph (non FLE) - Good on 5N but tiny magenta corners on the 7.
    Leica 50mm Summilux Asph - Good on 5N but tiny magenta corners on the 7.
    Leica 90mm Macro Elmar-M -Good on both the 5N and 7.

    Greets !

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Nice to see a thread starting to nail down n7 performance--though obviously we have some varied standards here. The plot on nex-7 with wide aperture on MANY lenses is getting very thick. See the new thread with links to photozone.

    First hints were how the n7 needs a few more stops to bring in the edges than the M9--at least on the lenses tested at LL.

    Obviously the 7 is colorshifting much more than the 5n---but the degree is not totally clear--magenta edges were the least of the colorshifting issues on the old 5--you had big blobs in the upper center of frame on tons of RF wides. I'm not clear on the n7 in that regard.

    Most important are the edges and good samples with the good glass are not everywhere. Corners matter, but wfrank shows at FM that the contax 21 is just killer on the 5n--regardless of the corners.

    see:
    Contax G 21/2.8 Biogon - a set on Flickr

    anyway the bottom line is nothing beats a nice full sized sample

    then each can apply their own standards to reality.


    my prefered set on the 5n now:
    zm18
    cron 28
    CV 35/1.2
    cron 50 v4
    cv 75/2.5
    TE 90 canada
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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Has anyone tried the problematic WA lenses using the Hawk's M adapter? I'm wondering if at full extension the adapter makes enough difference to partially cure the colour shift problem. I don't have any M wides myself even though I have the adapter so I can't check it.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Confirming what has been written about Contax G: 21 shifts even on 5N, 28 is fine on 5N but shifts on 7, 45 and 90 are fine on both.
    Regarding Leica, WATE (Tri-Elmar 16-18-21) is fine on both, even on 7 wide open and at 16mm, also fine on both: R 60mm Makro, R 35-70 f:3.5. M Summicron 28 is fine on 5N, shifts on 7
    Regarding Zeiss: ZM 18 is fine on 5N, shifts on 7. ZM 25 is not totally problem-free even on 5N.

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    Are there any decent 24mm or wider equiv lenses for the NEX-7 with no smearing and excellent corners under $1000?

    Must have aperture control.

    I was looking at the Pentax 15mm Limited DA but you can't control the aperture.

    I suppose the Sigma 8-16mm is a good choice but I would prefer something a lot smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlypenFly View Post
    Are there any decent 24mm or wider equiv lenses for the NEX-7 with no smearing and excellent corners under $1000?

    Must have aperture control.

    I was looking at the Pentax 15mm Limited DA but you can't control the aperture.

    I suppose the Sigma 8-16mm is a good choice but I would prefer something a lot smaller.
    leica-r 19mm?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by uhoh7 View Post
    leica-r 19mm?
    It is neither lighter than the Sigma zoom nor less than $1,000. I checked ebay and there isn't anything available for less than $1,700.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    The Leica 19mm will also be 28mm, I mean wider than 24mm in 35mm equiv.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    i ordered the 7 and will be experimenting with the wide M mount lenses I have, including
    Wate, 15 and 12 C/V, 28 cron I expect a bit of color cast with some of them, but using a tech camera and MFDB, this is nothing new. Has anyone tried using an LCC in capture one to balance the colorcast? if this works, is is pretty simple to make some standard LCC's and apply them

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    i ordered the 7 and will be experimenting with the wide M mount lenses I have, including
    Wate, 15 and 12 C/V, 28 cron I expect a bit of color cast with some of them, but using a tech camera and MFDB, this is nothing new. Has anyone tried using an LCC in capture one to balance the colorcast? if this works, is is pretty simple to make some standard LCC's and apply them
    Yes. Link to "i've seen the future" thread

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by FlypenFly View Post
    The Leica 19mm will also be 28mm, I mean wider than 24mm in 35mm equiv.
    It's not that big a universe - in the current CV, Zeiss and Leica lineup it's basically the 12mm CV. Magenta casts but correctable with LCCs

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    i ordered the 7 and will be experimenting with the wide M mount lenses I have, including
    Wate, 15 and 12 C/V, 28 cron I expect a bit of color cast with some of them, but using a tech camera and MFDB, this is nothing new. Has anyone tried using an LCC in capture one to balance the colorcast? if this works, is is pretty simple to make some standard LCC's and apply them

    I haven't done critical testing but the WATE looks pretty promising in walk around use.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    I tried the CV15 on the NEX7 today and as expected there is significant magenta vignetting. However, no significant corner or edge smearing. Easy fix with CornerFix, but still a PITA to do the DNG and CornerFix processing.

    Before CornerFix



    After CornerFix

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    Is that wide open?

    I guess I have to decide between the Sigma 10-20mm HSM and the CV15.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by FlypenFly View Post
    Is that wide open?

    I guess I have to decide between the Sigma 10-20mm HSM and the CV15.
    No, f/8.
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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    One very nice Minolta lens the 200mm that have a fast autofocus on the Nex-7 with the Sony adapter.



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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    what adapter to mount an Oly pen-FT lens to Nex-7?
    same as Oly OM lens to nex?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    what adapter to mount an Oly pen-FT lens to Nex-7?
    same as Oly OM lens to nex?
    No - special adapter, available from the same sources

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    thanks, but i can't seem to zero in on it going to Novoflex and Fotodiox sites.
    Last edited by jlm; 10th March 2012 at 11:36.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    You can make your own if you have the lens mount part of the pen F extensions rings and a NEX to 50mm (female thread) adapter. Mine is made this way.

    If you want an out of the box adapter that would work, check eBay. <$50/adapter shipped.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    For those interested, I quickly tested the Nex 7 with the Summilux 1.4/21, and it seems that there is no clearly visible magenta color cast. Vignetting is quite strong, as expected with this lens, but if there is a color cast, it is very subtle and would not require any correction, as opposed to 2.8/21 ASPH, ZM 2.8/25 or 2/28 ASPH.

    Here is a picture of a blue sky taken at 1.4:
    Attachment 56335

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    ypamine - could you take a photo of a white wall or cloudy sky? To my eye, the corners of that shot might have a little bit of shift going on.

    I've done some shooting with the CV 35/1.2 and the Nex-7, and so far no corner shift visible. There may be an overall pinkish cast when shooting wide open, but that's easily correctable.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Yep, looks like there is a little shift with that 21 Summilux, although not bad.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Here is picture of a white wall taken with Nex 7 and Summilux 1.4/21 wide open (shot as raw, only converted to jpeg in LR4):

    Attachment 56398

    There is a hint of color cast in the corners, but it is very low for a 21 mm.

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    OK, thanks! That is indeed very slight.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Yeah, that is very good for a 21mm lens. I'd imagine about as good as it gets.

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    Which Leica M lenses will work well on the 7 and is worth buying compared to the competition? I'm interested in a normal and wide angle range, thus the 'lux 24, 35 or Super Elmar. Which give the best and safest performance on the 7? Or should I just go CV35 Nokton or C/Y Zeiss?

    Also, do any of the Biogon lenses work OK on the 7?

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    Which 'lux lens works well on the 7 without smearing or bad color casts? Is the 24 worth buying, or the 35?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    The 35 Summilux Asph Non-Fle and the 50 Summilux Asph give you only a slight colour cast in the edges. So they are okay to use. I dont know about the 35 Lux Fle.
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    Any pictures of the 24 or 35 mm 'lux shot with nex-7 in color?

    Also, I found this: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/0...by-ashwin-rao/

    These shots look good with the NEX and the 'lux 35 FLE, no? Any issues you can see?

    So, is it worth buying a Leica M lens for the NEX-7 over the competition? Is there a loss of sharpness or just a slight color cast issue?

    I assume the 24 inch 'lux is out.

    The 21 shows promise though with only a little color cast, does it also lose sharpness badly as well?

    What about other Leica lenses, like the 'cron series, elmarit, elmar?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Joining this excellent thread.

    I am using the CV 35/2.5 on the 5N, waiting for the NEX 7 to appear. I can't see from this thread how the CV 35/2.5 might work on the NEX 7—any here tried it? I love its form factor, even though it's a bit slow.

    Or are there other recommendations for a 45–50 EFOV lens for this camera?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Sony E 50/1.8 with OSS. Perhaps the the best 50mm on the NEX-7.

    Others in the 40-50FL range, a long list (all on NEX-7).

    Olympus pen F 40/1.4. The smallest and the sharpest.
    Olympus pen F 42/1.2. That f/1.2 smoothness.
    Olympus OM 50/1.2. The lightest f/1.2. Really gorgeous rendering.

    Fujinon-TV 50/1.4. Very sharp.
    Fujinon-TV 50/1.2. Smooth OOF at f/1.2. Very sharp by f/1.4.

    Canon 50/0.95. One of the sharpest lenses I have (when stopped down to f/1.4). Special OOF rendering.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Hello Vivek,

    I was not clear; what I am looking for is recommendation for 45-50 EFOV, so lenses in the 28–35mm range.

    That Oly Pen F 40/1.4 looks interesting though...


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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Sorry, I missed that, Kit. That is my dyslexia kicking in.

    Without doubt, the http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/sony/3...m-f2-8-dn.html

    [I am experimenting a few tiny 35mm FL lenses. They look more than promising but quite a bit of work is needed to make them work plus they aren't readily available.]

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Ha ha!

    I have pre-prdered that lens (B&H); not sure when it will arrive. I have the MS Perar, too, but not yet sure of just hoe sharp it is; am testing on the 5N right now. Cheers, and if you do find any other decent tiny lenses, please post!

    is there a small Oly 35?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotoingo View Post
    I can confirm that and add :
    Sony NEX 16mm f2,8 - Good on 5N but magenta corners on the 7.
    Leica 24mm Elmar-M - Good on 5N but magenta corners on the 7.
    ...
    Greetings everybody,
    thanks for the extremely useful thread here (especially for someone like myself who contemplates moving from 5n to 7). I am curious about the performance of the SEL 18-200 on the NEX-7, in the light of the above. Does the lens also exhibit the magenta corners effect in its wider range (~18-~24-ish) when put on the NEX-7?
    Regards,
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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Hi, Kit. I've also decided to give the Nex-7 a shot. My ZM 35/2.8, 35/2 and even the 50/1.5 all show varying levels of color shift on the camera.

    My Nokton 35/1.4 does not show shift, but, like on the 5N, it has so much field curvature that the corners are never even that sharp at infinity at f8, unless you focus the center past infinity.

    I'm currently using the Contax G 35. There is no color shift to speak of, and while not as technically sharp across the frame as my ZM 35s, it's a nice rendering lens. The G 35 is essentially identical to the 35 Summicron IV, but with Zeiss coatings. If you can stand a little longer focal length, the G 45 is the Nex-7 is about the sharpest digital camera-lens combo that I've ever used. Amazing lens. Eventually, I plan on getting these lenses converted to M mount, so that I don't have to deal with the fussy focusing rings on he adapters.

    The CV 35/2.5 has had issues in the past on Nex, so I'm not real confident of how it would perform on the 7. It looks to me that the Sigma 30 is likely one of the best options around for a Nex standard. I'll probably get one, too.

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    "If you can stand a little longer focal length, the G 45 is the Nex-7 is about the sharpest digital camera-lens combo that I've ever used. Amazing lens. Eventually, I plan on getting these lenses converted to M mount, so that I don't have to deal with the fussy focusing rings on he adapters. "



    Who does the conversion and any idea on the cost?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    once the M-conversion is done, how do you then focus the lens?

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    I think monza (Robert) should detail the conversion and what it entails. I believe you get a helicoid in the conversion process.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Yep, you send the lens to Robert and he sends it to Hawk's, who adds a helicoid and rangefinder coupling. So, it is essentially just like using any other M lens on NEX. Don't quote me on this, but I believe the price is $450, so it isn't exactly cheap. Still, despite their recent price hikes, Contax G lenses are such a good deal compared to their Leica counterparts that the money still seems worth it, to me (and I bought my G 35 when they were still only a few hundred bucks or less.)

    I'm in the midst of selling a ton of stuff to potentially fund converting my G 35, 45 and 90. $1500 sounds like a lot of money to do this conversion on 3 lenses, but I figure I can always get my money out of them, should I decide to sell the converted lenses. Heck, I could even make a profit...but I don't plan on selling them.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    FWIW, here is a CornerFix profile shot for the G35 on the NEX-7 at f2 focused to infinity. Looks pretty good, to me. Granted, I will say that I wouldn't be surprised if the Sigma 30 is actually a little sharper across the frame, even at smaller apertures, because of the design. As I mentioned above, my ZM 35/2 is quite a bit sharper than the G 35 across the frame, but it has very noticeable color shift, and the G 35 is a nice size. I can always use the G 45 for extreme sharpness:

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    I was allowed to borrow a Voigtlander 12/5.6 for a weekend to test on my Nex 5

    Pretty happy with the results. Here's some pictures of why life in France is so enjoyable









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    Pegelli, that's my favourite lens on the GXR; great to see it working so well for you. And those images make me feel—hungry!

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    Lovely shots pegelli. That lens is a keeper.

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    Re: Lens experience with Sony Nex-5 and Nex-7

    Thanks guys, unfortunately the owner wanted the lens back and the only thing that's standing inbetween me and one is the courage to push the "order now" button on the Camera Quest site

    Still wishing to maybe find a cheaper second hand option, but so far no luck

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