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    How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I fashioned this grip using Sugru - ergonomic, plus it keeps the video button safe.


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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I was thinking about making a little ring around the button with Sugru. Do you think it'll be easy to remove in the future, if Sony has a firmware solution?

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    Yes this was a revision, the first one peeled off no problem.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    That one is more aesthetic, despite the redneck description. Which makes mine a confirmed hack.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    monza, after you use that mod, is it easy to record video with the nex 7?>?

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I shared my solution here a few months ago: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/sony/3...-nuisance.html

    It is simple and effective. Still working quite well.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Someone must be very clumsy and untalented to push video button accidently. When my NEX7 was new, it happened (for me) 2x, since this time never.

    ... don't buy a Kalashnikov!

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Someone must be very clumsy and untalented to push video button accidently. When my NEX7 was new, it happened (for me) 2x, since this time never.

    ... don't buy a Kalashnikov!
    Change that "someone" to "most".

    BTW, if you had accidentally triggered a Kalashnikov, even once, pointing at yourself, you would not be here typing this sort of stuff. Think about it.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    monza, after you use that mod, is it easy to record video with the nex 7?>?
    Quite easy, just press the button.

    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Someone must be very clumsy and untalented to push video button accidently
    Then I am so.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    monza's solution is terrible, looks like a camera from movie "Zoombie III"
    Such things you can make with HelloKittyCam. Or people using NEX7 as children toy and not for photographing ...

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I don't care how it looks, it's how it works. The grip helps as the 7 is very small, and the video button cannot be pushed accidentally.

    I'm sure someone else can come up with something prettier if they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Someone must be very clumsy and untalented to push video button accidently.
    Sorry, but this is unnecessary presumption.

    The video button is exactly in the place where the thumb of my right hand naturally lies. I hold the camera in my right hand, and operate the right upper wheel all the time with the thumb. Try it out, and you will probably find that your thumb covers the video button then. Since the (otherwise excellent) user interface of the Nex-7 suggests that almost all important buttons and wheels can be operated with the thumb of the right hand, this is about the worst location for the video button.

    No button should be placed in the way that any finger covers it almost permanently.

    So yes, if you think of that specific Nex-7 issue all the time you may be able to avoid it, but I do not want to do that.

    Bottom of the line: Pressing the vid button is hardly clumsyness or lack of talent, it is just what naturally happens when you use the user interface of the camera all the time.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    monza's solution is terrible, looks like a camera from movie "Zoombie III"
    Such things you can make with HelloKittyCam. Or people using NEX7 as children toy and not for photographing ...
    People are really tired of your hello kitty sarcasm.

    You might not have the same problem being discussed here but given that there are a lot of people on this forum with the issue, almost every review has stated the problem and there are articles written on how to modify the camera this isn't an imaginary problem.

    If the topic doesn't interest you or doesn't impact you, state your point and move on.
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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    The nature of Sugru is it comes in small packets and once it is opened, you have to use it or it will dry out. At first I wanted to just obscure the video button, but then I decided to make a small grip as otherwise the balance of the Sugru would be wasted.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I like your solution, Robert, because it does not involve permanant damage to the camera. My solution was to lay a tiny washer (with a hole bigger than the button) on top and then putting several rounds of gaffer's tape on top of the washer. I finished it off with a larger piece of gaffer's tape. I can still press the record button if I need to, but it doesn't go on by incidental presses anymore. I must be a real klutz, because mine was always coming on at the most inconvenient times.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    No klutziness is required. They just put it in a poor location. It should be the flat button that is next to the shutter button (I don't even know what that one is for!)

    The Sugru is pretty much invisible in use, this might be useful for vain shooters like hot. But the twin dials are still easily accessible.


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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I also used Sugru on a generic quick release plate so it conforms to the bottom of the NEX 7. The camera base is very narrow and there isn't much surface area for the plate to contact, the Sugru eliminates that problem and the camera is rock solid on a tripod.


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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Ouuuhhh, nice ... with chewing gum Strawberry flavour?

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Obsessed aren't we. I didn't want to waste the black Sugru on a test, as there was only one package of black.

    But only hot cares about the color, which isn't even visible when it's doing it's job.

    Here is one of my sachtler quick releases. Unfortunately the red release latch makes it entirely unusable.


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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I am using (very cheap) ArcaSwiss compatible plates for my cameras - ready for tripod




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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I had already covered my video button with a small metal washer and gaffers tape, but was intrigued by Robert's (monza) solution. I ordered some black Sugru. This is the result. I applied the Sugru and let it set overnight. The next day I photographed an event and the camera never went into record mode, even with my Sony 43 flash attached (which changes the balance). I have been using it since then and it has held up well. It really looks better than it shows in the photo, but I'm sure it could be improved upon.

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    Sugru is good stuff.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Wonder what the design team of this beautiful camera is thinking about all this video button hoopla back in Japan?
    Cannot imagine this cannot be fixed somehow.
    Hit my video button less and less these days but have to watch my thumb very closely.
    I have the D800E and Nex 7 and to tell you the truth I would pay to take the video out of both.
    Maybe I will find a use for it eventually.

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    Dan I feel the same ..... I wish they all would allow us to deactivate or reprogram our video buttons. If I wanted to do video I would of bought a video camera......

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Hmmm, I hit this red-eyed button in last half year accidently THREE TIMES.
    I do not need an update - NEX7 is full okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DE View Post
    If I wanted to do video I would of bought a video camera.
    Haha, joke of the day!

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    We all know that your skills are far superior to anyone else's!

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Hot, it was not meant to be humorous ... It is how I feel. If I wanted to do videos I would buy a camera built from the ground up to do nothing but videos. I am not a fan of compromises in anything including dual purpose camera systems. Unfortunately, the current trend is to make these dual purpose cameras so those of us that don't want , desire, or give a rats *** about videography are stuck having to work our way around record buttons placed in high usage areas of our still camera bodies.

    Because you personally have no issue with this I say good for you! For the rest of us it is at best an annoyance that could be eliminated with firmware so why voice a opposing viewpoint that the changes we want would have no effect on how you currently choose to use your camera but would allow those of us who want to to turn the record button off or set it to something we would like to use.

    You remind me of those posters that can't understand photographers wanting auto ISO ability in manual for things like BIF photography. They want to argue against it but what we are asking for they can just elect not to select and would not change anything they currently do. It's people like that that are the real bad joke of the day.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    You cannot stop development ... each camera supports video. That's good so.

    I have a phone ONLY for speaking & SMS - even if millions use smartphones.
    Try to get a camera without video (haha)


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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    The list of cameras without video is endless in medium format digital and digital backed tech camera catagory of cameras. Fortunately the dual purpose mentality consumer has not entered that higher priced market yet but probably will some day if prices get closer to FF format camera prices.

    But getting back on point I see no reason not to offer the consumer the option to lock, turn off, or reprogram a nuisance button that they never plan on using and causes them issues when accidentally activated while handling the camera.

    I have a NEX5, NEX7, a33, and a77 and have accidentally activated the record button on all of them at one time or another AND have never intentionally shot a video on any of them either. The NEX7 has been accidentally activated far more and the others primarily as I shoot waist level or lower a lot with this camera and my thumb often hits the record button when handling in this manner.

    Please Sony let us disable or reprogram this button......... what would it hurt?

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Finally a gentleman named Rick Luther has machined a add on part that totally eliminated accidental activation of the video button on the NEX 7. It installs under the rubber grip and fits inside the access hole to the video button creating a higher bezel.

    Took me less than 2 minute to install and you really have to try to activate the video button for it to turn on and off. Problem solved for $20 USD....... life is good!

    Google "The Guard" or R Luther Company in NM USA ..... I got one and it works flawlessly.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Hmmm, when I bought NEX7 in January I hit 3x randomly video button. Since January neeeeever. Someone must have a special talent to not-learn. But for $ 19.90 you pay teaching money and make a jump of joy .... life is mad.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    @hot I think everyone gets your point that the NEX-7 body is perfectly ergonomic for your hands. if you don't have these problems with the NEX-7 then that's great. For the others it's a valid and inexpensive body mod to HELP USERS WITH THE PROBLEM. I have issues personally with hitting the movie button on the NEX-5 from time to time myself. I have large hands and the video button placement is poor IMO. I never have this problem with the M9 though. Go figure.
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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Jim DE, Thank you. I'm buying one!

    Hot, Hired Arm is right. You are getting a little tiresome when it comes to this button. I find your quote: " Someone must have a special talent to not-learn." to be insulting. We don't all have the same size hands. My small hands do have a problem with the button.

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    Cindy, glad you found this info helpful. I don't pay a bit of attention to Hot on this as I have heard his rhetoric and don't care if he has an issue with the video button or not. I use my 7 at waist level with the LCD screen flipped out a lot using my thumb to trigger the shutter and consistently accidently hit the video button while handling it a few times nearly every outing I use it waist level. If the 7 was the only camera I use I might of programmed myself to avoid it but I use many different camera's near daily. Fortunately, now this problem is over as I learned of Rick's fix and payed $20 for the part to eliminate it as an annoyance ever again

    I am sure you found out Ricks unusual way of doing business. Until he gets set up for credit cards he just asks for your name and address and will send you the part with a return envelope for either the return of the part or payment. I was writing my check 5 minutes after I installed it. Anyone with that much trust in human nature deserves to get paid promptly in my book.

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    I had never heard of this Sugru stuff. Is it something new? Had to google it. Looks interesting.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I am not buying any "solutions". All the little gizmos specific to a model are waste of money IME.

    Sony themselves realized the problem with the video button and have placed it elsewhere in the NEX-6.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Sugru is a wonderful product. Monza put me onto it, but now I am using it for all kinds of "fixes". I put very small balls of Sugru on some of the buttons on my A77. It has stayed on them through a lot of shooting. It makes them easier for me to "feel" because it adds a rubbery element. I also put it on a couple of my camera plates to cushion and improve fit.

    Quote Originally Posted by emr View Post
    I had never heard of this Sugru stuff. Is it something new? Had to google it. Looks interesting.
    Jim, my Guard is on the way. Rick has been great to communicate with.

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    people are too easily insulted.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Richard I don't think people are easily insulted here at all but this is generally an extremely civil forum for lovers of photography - no matter the system.

    Most of us have our favorite brands but most of us own various brands. I personally use system cameras in 4 different native mounts (M, Alpha, Sony E, and Micro 4/3.) Repeating how you don't have a particular issue and telling people why they shouldn't have that issue since they don't is a bit narrow minded at best. There are more important things to focus on and the very nature of this thread was to provide an alternative and cheap work around. That's the spirit of this forum in general - photographers checking their ego and discussing the love of life and photography no matter the skill level. If people want to be fanboys or be "snooty" there are several other boards full of that. I would never tell someone to leave because it's not my place to suggest such things to any member but I can say that not many people here from the top down come here to dwell in drama.
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    To all whom it may concern,
    After owning & enjoying a NEX7 for a few months, I became a bit annoyed at the placement of the "Video Record" button & the resultant "accidental movies", so I decided to do something about it. I designed a "fix" that worked for me & after listening to many similar complaints, I proceeded to produce & market this, imho,
    elegant solution. I call it the "Guard". Our users seem to love it!
    Thanks for asking,
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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Rick Luther was a delight to order from. The Guard arrived quickly. I have now installed it (simple installation). It really looks good and does the job and I recommend it.

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    The solution to "accidental" movies is getting rave reviews & is still available.
    It's called the "Guard" & is being shipped all over the world for free (shipping, that is) Thanks guys & gals. Can't wait to offer new device for all NEX's. (4-5 wks)
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    got my "guard " last week it really works, you have to intentionally press the button firmly to get the video on, worth the $20 i paid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DE View Post
    Finally a gentleman named Rick Luther has machined a add on part that totally eliminated accidental activation of the video button on the NEX 7. It installs under the rubber grip and fits inside the access hole to the video button creating a higher bezel.

    Took me less than 2 minute to install and you really have to try to activate the video button for it to turn on and off. Problem solved for $20 USD....... life is good!

    Google "The Guard" or R Luther Company in NM USA ..... I got one and it works flawlessly.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    I just received "The Guard," and, despite being a little expensive, it works great. I wish it was matte black, rather than silver, but I'm very happy with it.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    A little expensive? Ha-ha-ha! ROTFL.
    Let's say: the price ($19.99) is tightly calculated, veeeeery tightly, hehehehe.

    But if you are haaaappy, it's okay.

    I am happy if I smell a wonderful flower ($ 0.00).

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    The man found a solution that made using this $1000 camera much more pleasant for me. I don't think paying him $20 is too much considering that he designed and manufactured it-- and mailed it to me on his dime. I did not know Rick Luther before JimDE brought this product to my attention, but it really does make my user experience more pleasant. If you don't want to use it, Hot, that is your call, but you don't have to make snide comments. They get very tiresome.


    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    A little expensive? Ha-ha-ha! ROTFL.
    Let's say: the price ($19.99) is tightly calculated, veeeeery tightly, hehehehe.

    But if you are haaaappy, it's okay.

    I am happy if I smell a wonderful flower ($ 0.00).

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Cindy,

    I finally resorted to setting up an Ignore list, something I've never felt justified in doing before, because of this guy and his offensive, derogatory and childish remarks. He appears to be incapable of not responding.

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    Re: How to eliminate accidental videos: NEX 7

    Agreed, Cindy and Simon, on both counts.

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