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From what I can tell, it is a simple space problem if a focal plane shutter has to be added as well as figuring out the data and control connections between the body and lenses. In the previews I have seen, Sony seems to be saying there is simply not enough room as well, but is not specific about why. Certainly cameras have been made with lenses that recess into the body--usually wides. But if you look at the focal plane mark on the RX1 body and if you consider the lens recesses fairly deep, they did not leave a lot of space there.Shashin, I agree with most of what you said. Although from Sony's point of view, why can't they build a bunch of new lenses that do recess so far back into the camera, and allow the camera to mate for this!
Yes but what do you expect from the size of the lenses, I certainly don't expect them to be any smaller than those from, canon, Nikon and Sony A-mount! Which is certainly the main problem as it stands. Unless there is something I am overlooking.With FF I don't mean it has to be very small like the RX1. A size of the Fuji would be fine. Just great and small lenses would be required.
Pancakes that are very slow only. Certainly cannot take advantage of a FF sensor, where it shines!I think there are very small AF lenses.
Certainly are - those pentax limited lenses (they are all screwdriver driven rather than with integrated motors though).I think there are very small AF lenses.
Agree totally, and the X-E1 will do me in the meantime. The new 14, 30, and 60 will be an awesome kit, and I am sure an X-Pro 1 sized Fuji could be FF. We can only hope. Once you do a total rethink and ditch the mirror, I think what's being discussed here is possible. The Sony A850 was my last-ever DSLR, and I started my photography life with a pair of Photomic-head Nikon F2As—I thought I needed an optical finder. I do not, and I really like the smaller bodies I am using now. I never took the D3s or the A850 out on a walk—not even once.With FF I don't mean it has to be very small like the RX1. A size of the Fuji would be fine. Just great and small lenses would be required.
One wonders if a leaf shutter in the lens would solve the space issue.From what I can tell, it is a simple space problem if a focal plane shutter has to be added as well as figuring out the data and control connections between the body and lenses. In the previews I have seen, Sony seems to be saying there is simply not enough room as well, but is not specific about why. Certainly cameras have been made with lenses that recess into the body--usually wides. But if you look at the focal plane mark on the RX1 body and if you consider the lens recesses fairly deep, they did not leave a lot of space there.
That means a whole mechanism inside the lens making the lenses large.One wonders if a leaf shutter in the lens would solve the space issue.
Possibly, but you still need to add all the mechanics and electronics for the mount. I think if Sony goes for an FFIC, they will move to a bigger form to simplify the design. Just like Fuji did when moving from the X100 to the X-Pro/X-E1. But then leaf shutter add to the cost of the lenses, but it has certainly been done before--Mamiya 6 and Mamiya 7 are examples.One wonders if a leaf shutter in the lens would solve the space issue.
The leaf shutter does add to a lens, but still a small lens can be designed--the Mamiya 6/7 lenses are really small for medium format. The RX1 is not that larger either.That means a whole mechanism inside the lens making the lenses large.