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    Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    This utility upgrades the NEX-7 firmware to version 1.01, and provides the following benefits:
    •Addition of capability to enable or disable the MOVIE button - forget $19.99 & Sugru solutions :-)
    •Addition of exposure settings of bracket shooting (three frames /1.0EV,2.0EV, 3.0EV)
    •Improvement of response for showing auto review image.
    •Improvement of image quality when using a wide angle lens
    •Improvement of indication when setting “Flexible Spot”.



    Sony : NEX-7 Updates | Updates für NEX-7 herunterladen

    http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/NEX-7/updates
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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    You should be happy "hot". Now you won't have to buy a "HelloKiddieCam" Pink.

    Max

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    I never buy a HeKiCa, OTHERs should buy it, totally stressed by video button!

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    I installed the update.

    •Addition of capability to enable or disable the MOVIE button.
    Works. Turned it OFF.

    •Addition of exposure settings of bracket shooting (three frames /1.0EV,2.0EV, 3.0EV)
    Works.

    •Improvement of response for showing auto review image.
    Don't know, don't care.

    •Improvement of image quality when using a wide angle lens

    No change whatsoever with the C-V 15/4.5.

    •Improvement of indication when setting “Flexible Spot”.

    Don't know if anything improved.

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Thank you! Will upgrade within next days ... no hurry

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I installed the update.

    •Addition of capability to enable or disable the MOVIE button.
    Works. Turned it OFF.

    •Addition of exposure settings of bracket shooting (three frames /1.0EV,2.0EV, 3.0EV)
    Works.

    •Improvement of response for showing auto review image.
    Don't know, don't care.

    •Improvement of image quality when using a wide angle lens

    No change whatsoever with the C-V 15/4.5.

    •Improvement of indication when setting “Flexible Spot”.

    Don't know if anything improved.

    No change whatsoever with the C-V 15/4.5

    Sorry - you have to take a second look - display and finder do not show anything changed - that's true. But please take a picture: see?
    I tested it this morning with the Heliar 15 mm and my old Leitz LTM Hektor 6,3 / 28mm (has been even worse than the Heliar - before)
    I think in this respect Sony did a respectable job.

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Please forget my posting - my viewing of taken pictures has been set to b/w - so I was taken by wishful thinking

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    No worries. I think the "wide angle" performance Sony refer to is their own lenses. The new 10-18 f/4 zoom in particular, according to first tests posted online, shows color shifts and magenta corners on NEX-7.

    I hope, at least that will fare better with the firmware update. I wish to see proof of that before even looking at its prices.

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    Vivek, I have to agree with that last statement. I was very happy at first with the idea of a new wide angle till some of the feedback started coming in. Almost $900usd dedicated manufacturers lenses should not need corner fixing when used on their own products imo.

    I to and in the wait and see mode........

    I did both the NEX7 and the A77 upgrades last night without a hitch. The A77 update really for a RAW shooter (besides the movie button) is not really worth the effort considering you have to go back and recheck all your lens micro adjusts that get zero'd when you update to v1.06. It essentially is a update for Sony and new product entry than for user defined needs/issues with the a77.

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    A question...does updating the firmware set all the various custom settings back to their factory defaults, or does the camera retain all the previously-user-set settings? (I spent quite some time working out the various settings for me, and would hate to have to do it all again...)

    Thanks,
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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Lisa,

    The settings are undisturbed (with the exception of AF micro-adjectments when using the adapter for Alpha lenses).

    Cheers,

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hell View Post
    No change whatsoever with the C-V 15/4.5

    Sorry - you have to take a second look - display and finder do not show anything changed - that's true. But please take a picture: see?
    I tested it this morning with the Heliar 15 mm and my old Leitz LTM Hektor 6,3 / 28mm (has been even worse than the Heliar - before)
    I think in this respect Sony did a respectable job.
    There is a change although not enough to help the CV 15/4.5. It does, however, helps the CV12/5.6 (it already showed less color shift with FW1.0).

    This is indeed a welcome development.

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    What? really? Do you have any before/after examples?

    I'm doubtful that the firmware is analyzing the picture results and detecting/correcting color shift when it doesn't even know what lens is on it. Especially doubtful that if they were, it would be noticeable with the CV12 and not the CV15, which is more pronounced (hence easier to detect).

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    Before and after Nex-7 and 16mm f/2.8 e-mount lens.

    Shot a white computer screen up close, +1EV, AWB, f/2.8

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    Before by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr

    after:


    After by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr

    A slight improvement.
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    I should say, both of those are from RAW, but the JPGs are identical.

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Wonderful pictures! I love the colors, especial red & green! Real autumn colors! Phantastic! Share more!

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Quote Originally Posted by simonclivehughes View Post
    Lisa,

    The settings are undisturbed (with the exception of AF micro-adjectments when using the adapter for Alpha lenses).

    Cheers,
    Thanks, Simon. Good to know.

    Lisa

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Wonderful pictures! I love the colors, especial red & green! Real autumn colors! Phantastic! Share more!
    I've been a member of GetDPI for a while but haven't posted much since switching to a Nex 7 when they first arrived in the UK. I often read the Sony forum as I find it a valuable resource and the contributors are knowledgeable and (usually) very courteous to each other - but I don't understand the (apparent) rudeness of the OP when someone adds a useful contribution to the thread. It seemed a strange title (including phrases like "HeHe") but I thought the OP would have been pleased to have members discussing the new update that he pointed us to.

    Am I missing something here?

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnNewman View Post
    Am I missing something here?
    Yes, same like I : GOOD pictures showing differences before/after, not stupid white walls for pixelpeepers!

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    In this case the white wall is the most appropriate way to show the differences.
    One wouldn't see any differences in a "good" flowershot.

    Never saw a comment on the content from a "good" picture from your side.

    Must be those high mountains surrounding you blocking your view.

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Another piece of evidence that the FW upgrade has made things "better" for WA angle performance. I attach a shot with ZM 18 on NEX 7. It is SOOC except it is ConrnerFixed with my ZM 18 profile, and you can see that correction is now excessive, with lightening up of the sky on both sides of the shot. That it should get lighter on the left is normal, because that is where the sun came from, but that precludes what happens on the right from being normal.
    So I/we need to redo our CornerFix profiles. Except that some lenses that were marginal without CornerFix may now become enteirely problem-free, such as my ZM 35 f:2.0 _DSC9652-1_CF-1 par philippeberend, sur Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Wonderful pictures! I love the colors, especial red & green! Real autumn colors! Phantastic! Share more!
    I find your condescension insulting and feel it has no place at the GetDPI forums.

    If you don't find my posts useful please just ignore them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philber View Post
    Another piece of evidence that the FW upgrade has made things "better" for WA angle performance. I attach a shot with ZM 18 on NEX 7. It is SOOC except it is ConrnerFixed with my ZM 18 profile, and you can see that correction is now excessive, with lightening up of the sky on both sides of the shot. That it should get lighter on the left is normal, because that is where the sun came from, but that precludes what happens on the right from being normal.
    So I/we need to redo our CornerFix profiles. Except that some lenses that were marginal without CornerFix may now become enteirely problem-free, such as my ZM 35 f:2.0
    Interesting, thanks for posting this. I didn't see any issues with my existing profiles and the Elmarit-M 28 or 21 SEM, but I will look a little closer. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Sherman View Post
    If you don't find my posts useful please just ignore them.
    If you don't find my posts useful please just ignore them

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    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    If you don't find my posts useful please just ignore them
    You are correct, and that is what many forum members will do. Ignore you. Your rudeness is boring, and your feeble attempt to be humorous is sad. The injection of your crass comments in an otherwise intelligent post ruins the enjoyment of the forum by other members. Having different opinions and the exchange of knowledge is an important role of a forum. It is part of the experience that makes it enjoyable for many. Your at times unnecessary rudeness distracts from what the forum should be, a friendly sharing of what is a passion for many of us, photography. I will take your advice, and ignore your posts.

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    Would you be soooo kind and be more ONTOPIC?
    5th postings ... no sense :-(

    Remember: topic is NEX7 UPGRADE!

    But pleaaaaase: noooo squared white walls.

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    Re: Hehe, Xmas wishes - NEX7 upgrade from today

    I used the 16/2.8 today with the Nex-7, and found that I can't even notice any magenta corners in the results anymore - both JPG and RAW. I used it to take some HDRs and regular shots. It was definitely noticeable before the firmware update. So, not sure if the new firmware just works better with "real" pictures or what, but I'll take it.

    Here's an HDR, also using the ultra-wide adapter.



    Giant by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr

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