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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Sounds like a plan Mikal!
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I have been using my A99 for several weeks and 2,260 exposures. I also have a well-used A900. I like them both, but I'm finding I reach for the A99 more often.

    It's lighter, though not much lighter when you stick the Zeiss 24-70 on the front. But it is WAY quieter and smoother in operation.

    I really like the EVF. I like seeing the shot I've just taken without taking my eye from the finder. I like the way I can shoot in very poor light and see the subject clearly. I like the focussing coming off the sensor.

    This week I have been in the Canadian Rockies with my MF gear (see Fun with MF images!) and brought the A99 as backup. On several occasions I've shot scenes with both cameras and I look forward to comparing the images when I get home.

    I've become addicted to EVF.

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    I expect to eat a lot of a99 pudding, Bill.

    The 24-70/2.8 is such a big chunk that using any lighter DSLR behind it will not do much for overall avoirdupois. But more normal lenses, say in the 300g to 500g range, you really do notice the diff, and the smaller body works better also. It's hard to tell apart from the a77 in size.

    I don't like upsetting the OVF holdouts - we all have our preferences and reasons for them - but MR was really grasping at straws with the complaints about the power consumption and lag from LCD to EVF. If those are the strongest arguments you can muster, I'd say you are simply someone with a given VF preference that overrides the better image making option.

    To deal with these two arguments, batteries are cheap, most a900 users have some anyway and the a99 is so fast you get very decent life, and you can turn of LV (due to the great EVF); if you turn off the LCD the EVF comes on smartly.

    Just quickly for the non-users, these are just some advantages (some for manual lens operation):

    Accurate focusing in any light conditions using EVF magnification and peaking (adjust for colour and strength); can do the following entirely with EVF: focus, exposure from histo, check dof at shooting aperture with good illumination and using peaking effects, shoot at shooting aperture (less vibration/noise), adjust WB, creative style, use BW, use five graphic display options, adjust colour balance and intensity of the EVF, see review image, review histo/blinkies, magnify and/or navigate review, set any menu item, set any setting, and the direct sensor feed. All settings get instant feedback in the EVF.

    You don't need the LCD, I use it entirely EVF most of the time.

    The a99 also has first curtain shutter (setable), meaning you have taken the shot before you hear the shutter, and it has no mirror noise. 200k shutter too. More DR (1-2 stops), and lower noise (1.5-2 stops). Recent tests indicate very minimal noise burden compared with either RX1 or D600 (which smears detail too much in my view) - same sensor.

    It is simply incomparable to the a900 for efficiency and effectiveness. I bought one for the dual card slots, cheap and small SD cards, lighter weight, smaller body, LCD/LV, magnification, no MLU, better DR, better noise, more usable mid range ISO and more customisability...and I now find myself saying the EVF is the heart and best feature of the camera. The ability to do *everything* in it is very addictive.

    Last comment: as a 95% manual lens user, the EVF enables the capacity to use the great manual focus lenses fully to a viable option for many more users. It's that good.

    Finally, it may slip by MR and co, but most young photographers are growing up with EVF cameras...imagine what they will think of this one?
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Well, my gear sale is going rather smoothly and I just punted off the balance to Monza for the A99. With the little 50mm f/1.4 I picked from Terry, I should have some photos later this week. I haven't been this excited about a camera in quite a while!
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Carlos, what were you selling, and which 50 did you get?

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Mikal,
    I got the Sony SAL50-F14 from Terry.



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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    People aren't having much fun with their A99's are they?


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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Wentbackward, by the "This image or video is currently unavailable" message in your post, neither are you...

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Oddly enough, if you click on the title, it works.

    I will begin posting photos on Tuesday. UPS took the weekend off it seems.
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Even though I really do not want another 35mm DSLR and hoped to lean down my Sony kit (or add nothing to it), I've had an A99 in my B&H cart for over a week now. I am just extremely leery of being an early adopter ... again.

    I really appreciate the points and counter points on this thread. I like that each person offers their opinions based on their specific criteria no matter which side of the coin, or how definitive or exaggerated in terms of real life use they may seem.

    I'll be up-front about the applications ... I have zero use for any 35mm DSLR for anything other than weddings ... which I will continue doing if my knee replacement surgery is successful this January.

    Not interested in manual focus at all ... I use 35mm DSLRs for the AF, not in spite of it. Not the least bit interested in using other lenses ... been there done that. Too slow For manual focus I prefer a rangefinder anyway.

    Frankly, I tried an A77 over a weekend, and returned it on the following Monday. I didn't need two weeks to see if it was my cup of tea as someone here suggested ... but I do agree that any new technology requires getting used to, and questions asked to clear-up any misgivings. So, I remain open to stuff like EVF.

    Some questions for A99 users, any insights much appreciated: (I already know the A900 inside out, so no help really required there).

    The "steep learning curve" comment concerns me. Not because I can't learn that curve, but because it indicates complexity to achieve something. This is not desirable for shooting weddings ... where the actual stuff happens so fast that you can go brain dead trying to remember some complex procedure to set the camera for the prevailing conditions while the events are unfolding before your very eyes.

    Can someone explain the viewfinder (EVF) experience to me? I do NOT want a review in the viewfinder after taking a shot ... I hardly ever chimp the LCD either ... that is a formula for missing the "real" shot.

    What is the Lag improvement or elimination that was mentioned? I do not experience lag with the A900, so I don't grasp the comparison.

    Frankly, I have the A900 down pat for AF, and shoot moving subjects all the time. Granted, I don't use CF, preferring single focus and timing the shot. I think many poor moving shots are attributable to low shutter speeds as opposed to bad AF. Also, how good is the off-center AF on the A99?

    How accurate is the Auto WB on the A99? ... I'm forced to shoot in horrible mixed low lighting, including the newer energy saving lights ... the A900 is deficient in this area IMO. I set manual WB when there is time ... which is almost never. My assistant's old Canon is better at Auto WB. The only camera I have that is lightening fast for setting custom WB is the Hasselblad H.

    The key question is how much better is the A99 low light performance? This is the only real reason to replace one of my A900s. Low light without a bunch of complex jumping through hoops to get to the needed settings. The pics shown so far are not very convincing. Nice shots mind you ... good photographers here ... but I'm not seeing any earth shattering high ISO stuff ... I mean LOW light and contrasty scenes, not Times Square with 20,000 watts of light. Frankly, night time shots with higher levels of ambient light can be done with the A900 at 3200 if only to get the shutter speed up.

    Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered. The A99 is still in the cart, but I'm not shot in the behind to have one ... it is just a business decision, and doesn't particularly excite me ... so I don't have the "want's and gimme's" for some new toy that's over-riding the "real world needs" logic.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Valid reasons all. Marc. I hope to have answers for you by the end of the week. I have the Sony 50mm f/1.4 and a dinner party to shoot on Friday. No flash as of yet so this will be a high-ISO affair.
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Marc, it sounds like you have answered your own question. If your A900 gives you want and need and does it well, what does it matter if something will do it "better." Especially since your clients will never see it. Why take the new expense?

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Marc, as a one-month veteran of the a99, I'll try and answer your questions.

    In my opinion there is no steep learning curve at all for a900 users. A few different movements to master, but twenty minutes should do it.

    The EVF (and the rear LCD) can be set to no image review, or a 2 second, 5 second review and so on. I like 2 seconds except when I'm shooting action when I turn it off. Like you, I don't want to miss that decisive moment! It can also show all shooting info, a histogram, a leveler or absolutely nothing but the scene.

    I don't understand the lag issue either. For all intents and purposes it's the same as the a900.

    Can't comment on AWB in mixed light - it's fine in daylight and compact fluorescent, but I tend to set manually anyway.It's a very quick process with the joystick. (I can always correct RAW later.)

    Low light performance alone is a good reason to go a99. It is at least one, and I'm beginning to think, two full stops better than the a900. But - my definition may be different from yours. I've been shooting trains in motion at ISO 1600 with essentially noise free results. At 3200 there is acceptable noise - to me. Your standards may differ.

    I'm keeping my a900 but it's likely to be as a backup rather than primary camera. In fact, I'm using the a99 as backup for my MFDB!

    Good luck with your decision-making process!

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    ok, I've re-linked my Flickr picture above.

    Marc, the comments about lag refer to old issues, either that EVFs were laggy in low light but more likely, before a firmware upgrade the A77 used to have a slight delay when you put it to your eye and the EVF kicked in. On the a99 this is not noticeable (to me at least). In fact due to the electronic front-curtain shutter the thing seems to take the picture before you've thunk it. I'd say the A99 is quicker than my Nikon D700, but I was never able to compare them side-by-side. I generally use mine for kids/events and the A/F experience is really excellent, you can defer to the A/F in many situations whereas the Nikon was almost always on point and I scrolled the point around. Mainly this is because of P&S style face recognition.

    I don't think there's much of a learning curve, although I did RTFM to understand the A/F options better.

    Regarding white-balance, it seems pretty good in many scenarios. I think the Sony setup is much less likely to blow the red-channel and overall the colours are much more accurate (one reason I switched from Nikon). I hit one issue recently where there was some unknown and god-awful fluorescent/tungsten mix at a persons house. I couldn't get it right in camera, everything went very magenta. I actually went back to AWB and de-saturated in post. I don't think any camera could handle that awful light.

    Another reason for the A99 would be the ability to crop later. I used to crop 12MP images down to between 3 and 6 for reasonable prints. Cropping the A99 images is ridiculous. When you've got kids running around, give them more room and crop. It saves a lot of grey hairs.

    fwiw, I turn off the auto-preview as it distracts me too much from the next shot. I also turn off the setting that shows all the effects in the EVF.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

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    Valid reasons all. Marc. I hope to have answers for you by the end of the week. I have the Sony 50mm f/1.4 and a dinner party to shoot on Friday. No flash as of yet so this will be a high-ISO affair.
    This sounds like an ideal test situation for what I'm after. Maybe not as bad for WB as what I run into, but if the ambient is low and people are involved, it'll be a good demo of skin tones and tonal separation.

    Would love to see some shots in the ISO 2000 to 2500 area, which seems to be the ambient median for most reception situations The Sony 50/1.4 isn't their most stellar lens, but with Steady Shot in camera it can usually beat the Canikon versions. I do seriously wish they'd make a Zeiss 35/1.4 for these cameras! That is what is really needed for event situations.

    Thanks, and good luck with your shoot!

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    Marc, it sounds like you have answered your own question. If your A900 gives you want and need and does it well, what does it matter if something will do it "better." Especially since your clients will never see it. Why take the new expense?
    That IS the question, isn't it?

    The reason I highlighted the low ISO performance question is because that is where I am currently deficient after switching from Nikon D700/D3/D3X to two A900s to get to the Zeiss optics. None of my wedding cameras except the Leica Mono do a very good job with really low ambient. The D700/D3 were good, but didn't have the resolution needed for cropping ... and the D3X had the resolution but wasn't great at high ISO, and the processing time for those files made it a no go for me.

    However, I think I'd need about two ISO stops improvement and a bit better WB to make the A99 worth the cost difference after selling one of my A900s.

    The issue isn't whether the clients will see it (I never let them see anything sub-standard even if they wouldn't recognize it) ... it is the time it takes to fix stuff in post to maintain a consistent quality across a body of work in a wedding presentation.

    The other unknown as part of the decision process is the build quality and durability. I honestly think Sony over-built the A900 to make their mark in 35mm DSLRs. Frankly, with the exception of war photography, not much puts the kind of demand on a camera like years of relentless weddings. Neither one of my A900s have faltered ... which I could never say for even my pro body Canons and Nikons. Lucky maybe.

    Thanks, appreciate your thoughts.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    Marc, as a one-month veteran of the a99, I'll try and answer your questions.

    In my opinion there is no steep learning curve at all for a900 users. A few different movements to master, but twenty minutes should do it.

    The EVF (and the rear LCD) can be set to no image review, or a 2 second, 5 second review and so on. I like 2 seconds except when I'm shooting action when I turn it off. Like you, I don't want to miss that decisive moment! It can also show all shooting info, a histogram, a leveler or absolutely nothing but the scene.

    I don't understand the lag issue either. For all intents and purposes it's the same as the a900.

    Can't comment on AWB in mixed light - it's fine in daylight and compact fluorescent, but I tend to set manually anyway.It's a very quick process with the joystick. (I can always correct RAW later.)

    Low light performance alone is a good reason to go a99. It is at least one, and I'm beginning to think, two full stops better than the a900. But - my definition may be different from yours. I've been shooting trains in motion at ISO 1600 with essentially noise free results. At 3200 there is acceptable noise - to me. Your standards may differ.

    I'm keeping my a900 but it's likely to be as a backup rather than primary camera. In fact, I'm using the a99 as backup for my MFDB!

    Good luck with your decision-making process!

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    Thanks for the info Bill.

    Can you shut off the EVF review of a shot in the viewfinder separate from the LCD? I do chimp the LCD once in a while ... mostly when first entering a room ... but there isn't time for that during most of the wedding shoot.

    I can say that even though I don't chimp very often, and didn't use Live View on the Canons and Nikons I used previously all that much ... the articulated LCD could change that for over-head shots I currently do in a hit-or miss, "Hail-Mary" manner : -)

    The reason for the WB question is that while I shoot RAW and can correct in post, it isn't the same as getting it right, or close to right in camera ... overly warm shots suddenly go underexposed when corrected ... being brighter, red-yellow can trick the eye as far as tonal separation is concerned. This is where most of these camera are deficient. I've found that it is sometimes actually better to error on the blue side which is counter intuitive.

    The noise at higher ISOs can be okay depending on the type of noise ... its structure and all that. I'd be interesting to see the difference ... not for pixel peeping reasons which is a waste of time, but more for controllability in post. Nothing worse than globs of noise on a beautiful Bride's face. How LR noise control and Nik Define 2 handles the A99 noise structure will be important.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

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    ok, I've re-linked my Flickr picture above.

    Marc, the comments about lag refer to old issues, either that EVFs were laggy in low light but more likely, before a firmware upgrade the A77 used to have a slight delay when you put it to your eye and the EVF kicked in. On the a99 this is not noticeable (to me at least). In fact due to the electronic front-curtain shutter the thing seems to take the picture before you've thunk it. I'd say the A99 is quicker than my Nikon D700, but I was never able to compare them side-by-side. I generally use mine for kids/events and the A/F experience is really excellent, you can defer to the A/F in many situations whereas the Nikon was almost always on point and I scrolled the point around. Mainly this is because of P&S style face recognition.

    I don't think there's much of a learning curve, although I did RTFM to understand the A/F options better.

    Regarding white-balance, it seems pretty good in many scenarios. I think the Sony setup is much less likely to blow the red-channel and overall the colours are much more accurate (one reason I switched from Nikon). I hit one issue recently where there was some unknown and god-awful fluorescent/tungsten mix at a persons house. I couldn't get it right in camera, everything went very magenta. I actually went back to AWB and de-saturated in post. I don't think any camera could handle that awful light.

    Another reason for the A99 would be the ability to crop later. I used to crop 12MP images down to between 3 and 6 for reasonable prints. Cropping the A99 images is ridiculous. When you've got kids running around, give them more room and crop. It saves a lot of grey hairs.

    fwiw, I turn off the auto-preview as it distracts me too much from the next shot. I also turn off the setting that shows all the effects in the EVF.

    - Paul
    Yeah Paul, The reason I swapped out of Nikon was the color issues compared to the A900, which in decent light gets it right almost all the time ... very good mid-range tonal separation right out of the camera to the point that post time was cut almost in half compared to the Nikons.

    Good to know about your AF experiences! Squirmy, kinetic kids are a really good test of a camera's AF abilities. When you say that you "can defer to the A99's AF as opposed to scrolling the Nikon D700's AF points", what do you mean? Face recognition is new to me ... how does that work?

    Thanks,

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Marc, if you've ever picked up one of those point and shoots that puts a little box around the faces, the A99 can do that, however unlike a p&s they only guide the A/F's decision and it still relies on the high speed A/F points for fast focusing. Due to the sensor being live all the time, the Sony has a combo of normal A/F and smart things like face recognition. Almost always when shooting kids and people I switch back to fully auto A/F and let the A99 do it's thing focusing on faces. No other DSLR or Mirrorless camera can do this only the new Sony's with the translucent mirror.

    Edit: In AF-D mode (with a compatible lens) once locked on a face it automatically tracks the face when you recompose (off the central 19 A/F points onto the secondary 102 A/F points). I've done this with groups up to 10, but not yet in a room full of people all over the place.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    If I had to shoot weddings with Sony I'd for sure have an a99. The DR gains alone will be able to salvage things you wouldn't consider with the a900. Also for anyone looking to buy Sony Style store has a sale for Black Friday, its $2799 for the a99 and you get a free 32" flat panel sony TV! Ends today I think.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Well, my A99 is on a UPS truck somewhere in Miami. I picked up a spare battery at my local dealer (who now carries the full Sony lineup) but they did not have any chargers at the moment. A little hunting came up with this from Amazon:

    Polaroid Double (Dual) Battery Charger



    $29 for those of you investing in the battery grip and extra batteries.
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Got my A99 last night. Wanted to try some low light images and here are the results. Today I will post more test shots.



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    Re: Fun with the A99!

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    If I had to shoot weddings with Sony I'd for sure have an a99. The DR gains alone will be able to salvage things you wouldn't consider with the a900. Also for anyone looking to buy Sony Style store has a sale for Black Friday, its $2799 for the a99 and you get a free 32" flat panel sony TV! Ends today I think.
    Sorry, I don't have DR issues with the A900. What I need is about 2 stops more ISO reach without the attendant noise and color shifts. Salvaging images is a luxury I simply don't have.

    Thanks for pointing out the TV deal. Unfortunately, the Sony Store adds $200 in tax over B&H, and the TV isn't worth much more than that. I believe B&H has a free storage card with their's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Got my A99 last night. Wanted to try some low light images and here are the results. Today I will post more test shots.



    No exif information ... it's been stripped from the images.

    What ISO and color settings? The downspout looks like it's gaining magenta ... not good for skin tones. The wind-chimes shot seems to have blown the highlights ... not good for wedding dresses.

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    Sorry about that Marc. I think my Picasa uploader stripped the EXIF.

    Here is the EXIF for the downspout image:
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    Here is the EXIF for the windchime:
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Thanks for the info Bill.

    Can you shut off the EVF review of a shot in the viewfinder separate from the LCD? I do chimp the LCD once in a while ... mostly when first entering a room ... but there isn't time for that during most of the wedding shoot.

    Marc
    No, I'm afraid not. Whatever review time you select applies to both EVF and LCD.

    But one press of an "arrow" button next to the LCD gives you instant review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    No, I'm afraid not. Whatever review time you select applies to both EVF and LCD.

    But one press of an "arrow" button next to the LCD gives you instant review.

    Bill
    Thanks for taking the time to respond Bill.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    It appears that the A99 IQ is world class, and will get better as people figure out the post processing techniques best suited for this specific camera ... which is always the case anyway.

    I've read a number of other reviews where I can find them, and have come to the conclusion that while an excellent camera, it may not be the right tool for my specific applications.

    One of the largest users of 35mm DSLRs is the wedding photography industry. Not only do we buy 2 or three of everything, the full time pros blow through cameras at a ferocious rate. Same for photographers of amateur sports ... it is not unusual for a sports photographer friend of mine to shoot 5,000+ shots on a week-end of team coverage.

    Sony has not penetrated these markets to any degree worth mentioning. I seriously doubt they will by following the EVF only philosophy. Canon and Nikon will dominate these application markets because they wisely retained the OVF in their flag-ship and Prosumer cameras used by these industries.

    This direction of Sony bums me out no end. The A900 has a world class OVF, and a superbly thought out interface. The only draw back being the higher ISO performance. In the end it was the AF Zeiss lenses that lured me to Sony ... and now I may have to abandon the system ... a prospect I do not relish since swapping systems is a real nightmare.

    Looks like the A900 may have to do for another season, or a Canon 1DX is in my future. Sigh.

    Many thanks to all those who answered my inquiries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    and what is it like

    and are there chicken forums ...
    Seems there is a forum for anything.

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    LOL, thanks, Ben, I thought so

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post

    (...) This direction of Sony bums me out no end. The A900 has a world class OVF, and a superbly thought out interface. The only draw back being the higher ISO performance. In the end it was the AF Zeiss lenses that lured me to Sony ... and now I may have to abandon the system ... a prospect I do not relish since swapping systems is a real nightmare. (...)

    Marc, don't you think there will soon be a 36 Mp Sony DSLR flagship with an old-fashioned Optical Viewfinder to further separate from the 24 Mp A99 model ?
    After all Sony made the 36 Mp sensor for Nikon as far as I know, so why wouldn't they make the ultimate flagship model with this sensor for their own line-up ?
    Just like Nikon's two 24Mp (D600) and 36Mp (D800) FF models respectively.
    Just my personal guess.

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    Marc,

    Love the word "ferocious." High iso shots of stationary subjects isn't the true test of the camera for me. I want to see high iso shots of kids moving around at high speeds in crappy lighting before I take the plunge.

    Personally, I think I may be able to live with the a900's noise at 6400 for a long while, considering that most of my son's water polo games (he is 7 and plays with the 12 and unders) are during the day so I can set the iso to 200. What matters more during the day is a good long lens, so I am thinking at getting the Minolta 200/2.8 for more reach as the 135/1.8 doesn't cut it.

    I also downloaded LR 4, which seems to make my photos pop more. Either that or the more I shoot water polo players, the better my shots are getting.

    Finally, and this is a bit unrelated, who knew that 12 and under water polo players talk trash like adults? Opened my eyes.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

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    Marc,

    Love the word "ferocious." High iso shots of stationary subjects isn't the true test of the camera for me. I want to see high iso shots of kids moving around at high speeds in crappy lighting before I take the plunge.

    Personally, I think I may be able to live with the a900's noise at 6400 for a long while, considering that most of my son's water polo games (he is 7 and plays with the 12 and unders) are during the day so I can set the iso to 200. What matters more during the day is a good long lens, so I am thinking at getting the Minolta 200/2.8 for more reach as the 135/1.8 doesn't cut it.

    I also downloaded LR 4, which seems to make my photos pop more. Either that or the more I shoot water polo players, the better my shots are getting.

    Finally, and this is a bit unrelated, who knew that 12 and under water polo players talk trash like adults? Opened my eyes.
    Mikal,

    my A99 is here so if you want some hands-on time, let me know. I only have the Sony 50mm f/1.4 ATM (the Zeiss 24-70 is patiently waiting for my Nikon 70-200 to sell) but you are welcome to try your Minolta glass on it.

    LR4 & CO7 do wonderful things with ARW files. The Fiat picture I posted earlier had the shadows recovered very easily.

    The more you do anything, the better you get at it. 10,000 hrs = Expert.

    I don't know what school your son attends, but mine goes to Belen (all boys Jesuit middle+high school) and in three months he has developed a rather complete repertoire of swear words.
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    Carlos, my son goes to Coral Gables Elementary but practices with the Gulliver guys and gals. Heard that most of the Belen water polo grads who stay in the area or come back to the area play for a team called the White Caps. I saw some of them the other day. Big, football player types, who play a mean game of water polo. Not the best finesse players but tough guys during a game. I would have enjoyed photographing the bigger guys playing water polo but my son was playing in the other pool at the same time.

    My son's team played the Hialeah team twice. The trash talking was epic.

    Thank you for the offer. I have other Zeiss glass you can try on your a99 if you wish. I have the 85/1.4 and the 135/1.8. Wish Zeiss made a good 35/1.4 or even 2.0 for the Sony lineup. Tempted by the Zeiss 24/2 but not worth the money for how often I will use it.

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    Sony is releasing a Zeiss 50/1.4 and 35/1.4 at CES. I would love to try the 85/1.4 for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Sony is releasing a Zeiss 50/1.4 and 35/1.4 at CES. I would love to try the 85/1.4 for sure.
    Isn't that just typical . . . . I packed up my beautiful 135 f1.8 today and sent it off to France . . . The A77 is winging it's way to Roumania.

    Ah well. The camera looks great

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Some Street Photography


    Christmas Lamppost by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    Manatee Statue by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    B&N by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Isn't that just typical . . . . I packed up my beautiful 135 f1.8 today and sent it off to France . . . The A77 is winging it's way to Roumania.

    Ah well. The camera looks great
    Jono, soon you will get into Sony again with the A99

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Carlos, I took the kids to eat at chicken kitchen last night, right around the corner from where you where.

    Some guy with a camera and backpack walked in front of my car last night as I was turning to take the kids to whip and dip. He was wearing a plaid or check shirt, and had a moustache. Wonder if that was you.

    The manatees in South Miami cannot hold a candle to the roosters on 8th Street.

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Mikal,
    I agree about the roosters. They are way cooler. Just a much longer walk. I was wearing a Manchester United shirt last night (blue/black horizontal stripes) and I sport a prematurely white goatee (no 'stache) which makes me look like some old Klingon. My avatar is a self-portrait.
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    Wasn't you then. Check your messages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    It all looks great
    I'm very disappointed that the new Apple RAW update doesn't include the A99 as Aperture is my choice of developer.
    Apple RAW support for SLT-A99 available NOW (in addition to cameras such as NEX-6, NEX-5R, Panasonic GH3 etc.)

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    "if anyone thinks this technology "war" is something to be won, you are mistaken. All we are doing is creating poverty in our own field."

    When all I want to do unqualified though I am is to create poetry in my own field!

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Proof that I watch BBC America way too much:


    Terror of the Autons by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Trying out the ZA 85mm (Thanks Mikal!)


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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Well, my A99 is on a UPS truck somewhere in Miami. I picked up a spare battery at my local dealer (who now carries the full Sony lineup) but they did not have any chargers at the moment. A little hunting came up with this from Amazon:

    Polaroid Double (Dual) Battery Charger



    $29 for those of you investing in the battery grip and extra batteries.
    Carlos can you confirm this charge does indeed work with the A99
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Jono, soon you will get into Sony again with the A99
    . . . and today it has Aperture support!
    Have you got one Peter?

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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Quote Originally Posted by kuau View Post
    Carlos can you confirm this charge does indeed work with the A99
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    Yup, works a treat.
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    Re: Fun with the A99!

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Trying out the ZA 85mm (Thanks Mikal!)


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    Lovely young lady.

    Did you use the pop up flash, Carlos?

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