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    VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Just a heads up on the Samyang/Rokinon/Wallimex etc branded lenses. I have been watching the auction site to buy some.

    The new current prices of the VDSLR lenses with focus grip is higher (because of the higher construction costs) than the "Pro" branded versions which offer conventional focus grips. While the "pro" version apertures are marked in f numbers, the VDSLR lenses have T numbers.

    On the auction site (.de specifically), the VDSLR lenses go for much less than the "Pro" versions. It looks like the higher T numbers put people off.

    I grabbed a 14mm T3.1 VDSLR lens recently (great price). Size wise, it isn't going to be a lot bigger than my Canon 50/0.95 lens in M mount. Any Distagon (old, new or even upcoming- any mount) ~15mm FL is by no means a small lens!

    The 14 f/2.8 (or the 14 T3.1) lens is already shown to be a great performer on the A7R.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Image samples?
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Soon.

    I already requested a friend who has tested the combo as well.

    Just look at the D800/E + 14/2.8 shots- there are plenty on the web.

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Image samples?
    +1


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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    You took pictures of Jan playing with the A7R and you did not check it out right there?

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    You took pictures of Jan playing with the A7R and you did not check it out right there?
    Huh?!
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Huh?

    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/548914-post2.html picture#5 the 2nd guy from the left is Jan. He checked out the 14/2.8 on the A7R.

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Aha! But you have to know I was only interested in the FE lenses and, obviously, my own R-lenses
    Next time I'll pay more attention, Vivek

    Kind regards.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Soon.

    I already requested a friend who has tested the combo as well.

    Just look at the D800/E + 14/2.8 shots- there are plenty on the web.
    I had the Rokinon version of this lens with the D800e, but sold it along with the rest of my Nikon gear. Performed well on the D800e. Sample image below.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Thanks, Carl!

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    My Walimex VDSLR 14mm arrived and it is every bit as Carl says. Only with an A7R (and even with such an ultrawide lens), it is possible to focus precisely. Just an amazing piece of optics and the performance is just wonderful.

    Still can not believe the cost!

    If sell my OUFRO, I can cover the costs of the lens plus buy a real adapter from Novoflex themselves- with the extra tripod collar!

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    I have the Pro in Sony mount for my A99. There are profiles out on the net for correcting the distortion in LR. It is a real bargain of a lens.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Did you take some shots yet, Vivek

    You don't mind the vdlslr is a tad slower, or is that neglectable?
    I prefer the looks.

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Did you take some shots yet, Vivek

    You don't mind the vdlslr is a tad slower, or is that neglectable?
    I prefer the looks.
    They're the same speed. The markings are just in T stops instead of F stops.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Ha, it got you too, Michiel! This is the whole point of this thread.

    (please check the first post)

    It is exactly the same speed only constructed a bit better.

    I'll post some pics in the next days in the fun thread.

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Looked it up in Wikipedia... The formulas made me dizzy.
    The better it is because the T lens also looks better and probably handles better as well.

    Congrats with the purchase!

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Well Amazon has a gold box deal on the Rokinon Cine 14/T3.1 (14/2.8) lens right now for $350. I just got one so there should be 12 left at most.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Well Amazon has a gold box deal on the Rokinon Cine 14/T3.1 (14/2.8) lens right now for $350. I just got one so there should be 12 left at most.

    Thanks. Which mount?
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Also available in Sony E mount
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    An interesting lens, Vivek. Thanks for the heads up!

    Regarding which mount to choose: I've decided a while back that all my FF manual focus lens purchases must be in Nikon F-mount, and must have manual aperture control rings. This way, the lenses can be either directly used with or adapted to any camera brand I am currently interested in (Sony, Nikon, Canon, perhaps at some point Fuji and Sigma) with a minimal number of adapters.

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks. Which mount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Sony E mount

    Many thanks. Does that autofocus?
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    No, it doesn't.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Many thanks. Does that autofocus?
    No to autofocus as stated above but yes to FF coverage.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Tre, The E mount lens is even a better deal, I think.

    It weighs ~200g more than the camera itself but it is a (relatively) fast ultrawide!

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Tre, The E mount lens is even a better deal, I think.

    It weighs ~200g more than the camera itself but it is a (relatively) fast ultrawide!
    Agreed and it solves the UWA "issue" for those wanting something super wide for a decent price. I still have my M-Mount lenses (21-90mm - various speeds) and they should all work well enough for what I mostly do (street, candid, event, and portraits.)

    There was a really good deal going on for Black Friday/ Cyber Monday as well where they were offering the 24/1.5, 35/1.5, and 85/1.5 for $1200 (I believe) at B&H. Not the best lenses by any measure but all very usable and provide decent performance for those that want native lenses with some speed. If I was starting from scratch I would've picked them up myself. It's not everyday you can get half decent set of fast lenses for under $1600.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    I have used a Kinoptik 9.8 f/1.8 on Epson RD-1s. Compared to that, the Samyang is a featherweight!

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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Correction to my previous post... The deal (24mm,35mm, and 85mm/1.5) is still going on at B&H until 10 December 2013 but the three lens kit is $1300 and not $1200.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Five of the Samyang FF-lenses are now available in E-mount:

    Samyang says five of its full frame lenses now available in Sony E mount: Digital Photography Review

    Edit: these lenses are *big* with their barrel extensions. Personally, I'd prefer to use an adapter with the Nikon-F version.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Pfister View Post
    Five of the Samyang FF-lenses are now available in E-mount:

    Samyang says five of its full frame lenses now available in Sony E mount: Digital Photography Review

    Edit: these lenses are *big* with their barrel extensions. Personally, I'd prefer to use an adapter with the Nikon-F version.
    The diameter of the built-in extension tube (at least on my Rokinon 14mm) is also too large to allow use of the Novoflex ASTAT-NEX tripod mount.
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    Re: VDSLR vs "Pro" lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    The diameter of the built-in extension tube (at least on my Rokinon 14mm) is also too large to allow use of the Novoflex ASTAT-NEX tripod mount.
    True - one more reason to go for the F-mount versions.

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