Maybe I missed it so could you please point out where exactly did McCollough do something moronic or vilified / questioned motives of Lloyd?Instead, they need to vilify the messenger, and question his motives. This does strike me as moronic.
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Maybe I missed it so could you please point out where exactly did McCollough do something moronic or vilified / questioned motives of Lloyd?Instead, they need to vilify the messenger, and question his motives. This does strike me as moronic.
I thought I was clear..... The Gitzo traveler and Acra head together weigh 3.1 lbs. I didn't say that included the weight of an STC and 150mm Digitar and Phase IQ180.Apologize for being off topic ...............
Hello Victor
Please breakdown your setup that weights in at 3.1 lbs, with head and tripod included.
My IQ280 and Cambo WRC 400 and HR 40 weigh in at 2.1 kg w/o tripod and head.
Thanks
Phil
You are right, that Nikon stringent technique advice WOULD apply, same as with the D800/D800E.Marc,
Your point is well taken. I guess for me as others have suggested is shot both cameras hand held, same lens and see with my own eyes if I can see the difference.
I don't question others success they have had hand holding the A7R, yet would they have achieved similar results with the A7?
The A7R reminds of when Nikon came out with the D800 and they published a technical document describing specifically what lens worked, and stressed proper shooting technique, tripod, MLU, etc. This is what prompted me on my original comment. Why would this same advice not apply to the A7R?
Do Canon's IS lenses work with any other maker's cameras?Not sure if others have tested this but the A7r's shutter vibration also causes blur issues when used hand-held on certain Canon lenses when image stabilization is enabled.
Yes, with Sony NEX and A7/A7R when used with a Metabones MkIII Smart Adapter. This adapter sports aperture control, EXIF and AF (with certain lenses), too.Do Canon's IS lenses work with any other maker's cameras?
Graham
Marc,
Your point is well taken. I guess for me as others have suggested is shot both cameras hand held, same lens and see with my own eyes if I can see the difference.
I don't question others success they have had hand holding the A7R, yet would they have achieved similar results with the A7?
The A7R reminds of when Nikon came out with the D800 and they published a technical document describing specifically what lens worked, and stressed proper shooting technique, tripod, MLU, etc. This is what prompted me on my original comment. Why would this same advice not apply to the A7R?
Hi MarcThe point you are missing is that when you choose to apply stringent technique with the A7R, you cannot match it with the A7. (Plus, one other unknown I'd like to see compared is the higher ISO of the A7 verses that of the A7R. That is the wild card in all this.)
If the A7 is all you need or will ever use, or there is some other criteria like faster AF, the choice is clear.
Otherwise, an A7R user can have his cake and eat it too ... shoot more freely and be at least as good as an A7, shoot more carefully and produce what the A7 cannot.
- Marc
Hey Ron,Yes, with Sony NEX and A7/A7R when used with a Metabones MkIII Smart Adapter. This adapter sports aperture control, EXIF and AF (with certain lenses), too.
Edit: Metabone's Speed Booster for EF lenses offers the same features, but is only usable on APC-C cameras (i.e. NEX).
Yes, it does - with the adapters I mentioned in my post.Hey Ron,
I was aware Canon lenses can be mounted, I was curios if the IS worked with other than Canon cameras?
Jono I think in your case the A7 is the better choice if you still plan to use an adapter for M lenses on occasion. I find that it plays with them better than the A7r (and yes I own both.) That being said the native lenses all produce great results IMO as well. I'm hoping the 24-70 and 70-200 keep up with this sentiment once released.Hi Marc
I think the point that you're missing is that, if, like Steven and I, you shoot primarily handheld, then there are circumstances when the A7 would appear to produce Better results than the A7r. It's not a cake and eat it situation with the A7r at all, you need to choose your cake with care, because they both have their up and down sides.
Personally I'm pretty certain I'll jump back into the water, but like Steven I'm finding it tough to pick my poison.
I've played with both cameras, and I immediately realised that the shutter on the A7r was relevant to the way I shoot (because I could feel the camera shake!) playing with Matt's A7 briefly was quite different. Of course, there is an argument for Guy's approach (getting both).
All the best
Marc,You are right, that Nikon stringent technique advice WOULD apply, same as with the D800/D800E.
IMO, you'd also be right that you very well could get similar results from a 24 meg A7 in some less carefully controlled A7R situations.
The point you are missing is that when you choose to apply stringent technique with the A7R, you cannot match it with the A7. (Plus, one other unknown I'd like to see compared is the higher ISO of the A7 verses that of the A7R. That is the wild card in all this.)
If the A7 is all you need or will ever use, or there is some other criteria like faster AF, the choice is clear.
Otherwise, an A7R user can have his cake and eat it too ... shoot more freely and be at least as good as an A7, shoot more carefully and produce what the A7 cannot.
- Marc
HI ThereJono I think in your case the A7 is the better choice if you still plan to use an adapter for M lenses on occasion. I find that it plays with them better than the A7r (and yes I own both.) That being said the native lenses all produce great results IMO as well. I'm hoping the 24-70 and 70-200 keep up with this sentiment once released.
Got it.Marc,
I get it, A7R with excellent technique equals excellent IQ which then the A7 can't mach. This is completely understood even forgetting about shutter vibration issue / non issue.
Though for my needs, handheld, maximum print size 20x30 I feel the A7 fits my needs.
I have a large investment in A mount glass, and will wait and see what Sony announces in 2014, I'm hoping for a 36mp A99
If I didn't have a big investment in A glass, I would have gone for the A7R.
Yeah I know I could get the Sony laea3 or 4 adaptor, but to me, then all of the sudden the A7 series looses it appeal, using a tripod becomes almost a must.
Steven
Here's the thing. If you don't get the A7r you'll never know what you missed. As a chap who had the A7 and changed it for the A7r I have some experience.Yes, if printing to 30" and no larger, I'd stick with the A7 and not bother with the R
You know and I am dead serious it's not a bad idea to have both even as a hobbyist if you get the A7r for the extra 1700 for the A7 is not such a bad idea. First a lot if folks are buying expensive glass to begin with maybe think in terms of the A7 as your fast cam with AF for those times a A7 may make more sense like a A7 and the small 35 FE makes a perfect travel walkabout unit and you A7r for manual focus lenses and when you want the highest quality. I have both but can't go by me per say since I work for clients and many needs but it's not such a bad idea and you have a backup or shoot two cams at once doing street work or weddings, parties and such.Here's the thing. If you don't get the A7r you'll never know what you missed. As a chap who had the A7 and changed it for the A7r I have some experience.
The difference in resolution is amazing and using the 55/1.8 FE, as an example, the images are so sharp. Even with Leica lenses, which are being dissed by almost everyone, I find the quality as good as the M240.
Of course, there will be the nay sayers; there always is. Those are usually the people who didn't get the A7r (but secretly covet it).
I think you have confirmed that Canon's IS shouldn't be used with this camera... I'm unsure why anyone would assume that it would actually work correctly anyway (without testing it). Just because the lens is powered, doesn't mean the IS is doing the right thing, and it appears that it is actually exacerbating the movement (probably because the camera is light enough that the sped of the acceleration and deceleration is faster than Canon can compensate for).Not sure if others have tested this but the A7r's shutter vibration also causes blur issues when used hand-held on certain Canon lenses when image stabilization is enabled.