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Never heard banding referred to as easy to remove. Can you share your technique? Thanks!It is hard to compare unless you compare as a system! The M240 is surprisingly good at 6400ISO combined with Nik Dfine 2.0. The issue quite often with the M240 is banding at about 3200ISO. This is very easily removed, without any NR being applied.
The M240 can be easily hand held for low light shots down to 1/15sec with good technique, compared with with A7r needing a min of 1/100 sec, but in a pinch 1/60sec with a 50mm lens. The other aspect is that using a 50 Lux or Nocti, there many stops advantage with the M240 over the A7r.
When comparing bodies only, I am seeing about 1.5 stop advantage with the A7r, and the noise seems to have a different structure to that of the M240. I prefer the noise pattern of the M240 as it feels more film like.
Never heard banding referred to as easy to remove. Can you share your technique? Thanks!
I tested both cameras back-to-back ... the M 240 for 2 weeks before sending it back, the A7R since getting it almost two weeks ago ... and I'm keeping it.I am talking about 6400 and how is the sonys above that at 12800 does either one compare to the M at 6400
I read Sean's review top to bottom. Any review, taken with a grain of salt, can be of some value, if for no other reason to highlight different ways of shooting and how a camera can aid or distract from that ... or to uncover a different opinion about a specific attribute or perceived flaw.Sean Reid has posted his first review of A7r on his ReidReviews website, and he said the following review will deal with the comparison you're interested in.
Not only do I agree with you but it is one of the reasons I kept the Sony..... Shutter vibration for me can only be mitigated with either higher ISO's or ultra low shutter speeds. I have found that at least up to 1600 iso the Sony is stellar and large prints won't show the noise..... in fact the/any noise may have visual benefits.The A7R is now my highest ISO color camera.
- Marc
Hi there David. No doubt, the A7 and A7r are much better at high ISO. Probably the A7r is the best by a whisker BUT the shutter cacophony of the A7r means you must shoot at least 2x focal length, whereas even this coffee saturated old fool can manage 1/2 focal length on an M(240).Thats 2 stops.............I am talking about 6400 and how is the sonys above that at 12800 does either one compare to the M at 6400
Hi Ben,Never heard banding referred to as easy to remove. Can you share your technique? Thanks!
My experience is a little different. I've been working with a 7R as a possible adjunct or replacement for the Monochrom in my hand-held b/w work. My impression is that the shutter causes the camera to jump a bit in my hands, which is disconcerting, but the movement appears to happen after the exposure is complete. (I typically choose an exposure of at least 2x focal length.) I keep expecting to see evidence of camera movement in captures, but don't. Also, in a few casual tests with the 50mm (MM) and 55mm (7R), my batting average of sharp captures at 1/60 and slower is about the same with the 7R and MM: at 1/60, about 2 in 3 are sharp. At 1/30, about 1 in 2. At 1/15, about 1 in 3.Hi there David. No doubt, the A7 and A7r are much better at high ISO. Probably the A7r is the best by a whisker BUT the shutter cacophony of the A7r means you must shoot at least 2x focal length, whereas even this coffee saturated old fool can manage 1/2 focal length on an M(240).Thats 2 stops.............
I only have the Leica and I usually do not go higher tha iso 3200, which delivers good results for me. Having some f1.4 lenses combuned with iso 3200 allows me to shoot allmost in all low light conditions I would want to.I am talking about 6400 and how is the sonys above that at 12800 does either one compare to the M at 6400
HI There BradAlso, in a few casual tests with the 50mm (MM) and 55mm (7R), my batting average of sharp captures at 1/60 and slower is about the same with the 7R and MM: at 1/60, about 2 in 3 are sharp. At 1/30, about 1 in 2. At 1/15, about 1 in 3.