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    A7 and A7r owners. Are we having fun yet.

    I hope all of you read my front page article by now and if not you better get on it. LOL

    Just kidding but the article really leads to this new question here are we having fun. Im having a blast with this dang thing as it is not only fun to shoot its deadly accurate in a lot of ways. Now i realize we are with a generation 1 product and some firmware and changes need to be made no question. But I have not really hit that wall that happens sometimes as I seem to get around any real issues with shooting.

    Anyway i thought this is be a amusing thread and if not thats okay too.
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    Re: A7 and A7r owners. Are we having fun yet.

    I completely agree. I am having a lot of fun with my A7, though I might be happier with a A7R who knows.
    But I am prejudiced: I always hated large, heavy DSRL, and my first serious digital was a NEX 5 (film does not count, but it was a Canon FT/b which is slightly larger than my A7).
    A7 is a definite improvement over the NEX but not really a cultural shock as it must be for others.

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    In love so far, and hoping for marriage if they address some pesky issues with a firmware release

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    Just back from Fashion Week having used the A7r with 24-70 f4 FE, 70-200G with LAEA4, and 55mm f1.8 FE lenses combined with a few shots using a 50mm f1.2 nikkor and 90mm f2.8 Contax G. I had fun for the most part with the A7r, a few challenges here and there that with time will be worked out.

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    I am having more fun shooting the A7 than I have with any camera in quite some time. That said, I do sometimes lust for the A7r, especially since I picked up a used RX1r that produces slightly better files than the A7.

    What I really want is an A7r with a leaf shutter. Game over at that point...

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    Guy, my short answer to "are we having fun yet?" Is yes.

    We had so much fun in Jackson Hole with Sandys new 7r that I decided to get one as well.
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    Well, as I've said before, my intent for this camera was to get some use out of my prized Leica R and Nikkor lenses. I chose the A7 as I suspected that it would be an easier match to these old lenses than the A7r. I've now tested almost all of my lenses and am very pleased with the optics-to-sensor match.

    So, for me it is a Leicaflex SL digital surrogate.

    Overall, I think it's a clunky design without a lot of refinement, but the viewfinder and sensor are very good. It has just enough customization that I can use it the way I wanted and the controls work well for my purposes now.

    Frankly, with the Leica R and Nikkor lenses hanging on the front of it, it becomes one of the best shooting camera I've got. The files I get out of it are excellent—finely detailed, very editable, good base color, etc. The viewfinder, focusing aids, and metering system are spot on. I've seen none of the things I hear people complaining about on 'The Noisy Place.' It is a pleasure to focus, set exposure, frame, and shoot with ... So far, I haven't been able to think of much to improve it beyond what it's got already for the scope of how I want to use it. Most of the "wanted" firmware updates have to do with features that I neither need nor care about.

    Is this fun? I guess it is. The Sony A7 was an impulse purchase that's cost me a couple of grand, yet the photos it's enabling me to make are worth whatever it takes. I love using my R lenses with it, they're just fantastic. It's all good. :-)

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    I too am having a blast! I think this is the perfect companion for a tech camera, and it is just so much fun experimenting with virtually any lens.

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    This is the most versatile camera I've ever owned. Yes, it's loads of fun!

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    What I need now is an adapter for my MF lenses....then I'd own nothing that could not be fitted to the a7r!

    Right now I can use Leica M, Voigtlander M mount, Yashica 42 screw mount, Corfield 39 screw mount, my A mount lenses and of course the EF.

    But my Phase lenses.....too bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I hope all of you read my front page article by now and if not you better get on it. LOL

    Just kidding but the article really leads to this new question here are we having fun. Im having a blast with this dang thing as it is not only fun to shoot its deadly accurate in a lot of ways. Now i realize we are with a generation 1 product and some firmware and changes need to be made no question. But I have not really hit that wall that happens sometimes as I seem to get around any real issues with shooting.

    Anyway i thought this is be a amusing thread and if not thats okay too.
    Guy:
    Very interesting article. Yeah I'm having fun. Looking over the other replies on this thread I'm interested to see several different angles on what the A7s provide. Size, technical advantages (magnification, peaking, LCD angling), ability to adapt your favorite other system lenses. Sony has definitely gotten its foot in the door this time. You don't even have to give up your other system. It seduces you by a reasonable entry cost and now they've even produced at least one stellar lens (FE 55). Sony being Sony, they will certainly commit at least one forehead slapping atrocity every three months that will raise howls among the faithful and infidels alike but I'm ready to see where they go with this FE experiment. The LAEA adapters work well and give me access to some very decent and reasonably priced lenses. That should keep me happy until they can fill out the lens lineup.

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    Oh, yes. Its a belter (well, they both are actually). I've started writing up comments on the A7 and A7R on my blog (The Photo Fundamentalist) and will continue to do so.

    Sure, they have their glitches, but they are not only fun, they are supremely pro-worthy tools. Fun tools capable of the finest IQ in the FF format... Brilliant, brilliant tools for light traveling documentary/travel/field work and much more.

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    Where is A8r? bring it on...

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    I have had the A7 for a couple of weeks. I bought a body only and a Konica adapter. It was the only adapter they had in store that I could use with my modest lens collection, so I have only used my Hexanons. It has been immensely fun to use the lenses as intended by the makers. I am amazed at the quality these old lenses give on the A7. The 35 2.8, 50 1.7, 85 1.8 and 135 3.5 are a lot better than I have been led to believe by my use on m4/3.

    I am waiting for OM and C/Y adapters. I am really looking forward to use my Contax collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurin View Post
    I am really looking forward to use my Contax collection.
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    It's a wonderful camera, the kind that makes me want to shoot more just for the pleasure of the experience. Like some here, I had an a99 which Sony has improved on in most key respects. For those wondering, try to shoot a set of images in a shop a7r to quell any remaining qualms about it. I'm here in Tibet right now, altitude makes it hard to sleep deeply so I find myself dreaming about an FE 25mm and 85mm to go with the IQ of the FE 55. LOL. Once set up - thanks to so many here - it seems to be very close to a perfect travel / doco camera..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    What I need now is an adapter for my MF lenses....then I'd own nothing that could not be fitted to the a7r!

    Right now I can use Leica M, Voigtlander M mount, Yashica 42 screw mount, Corfield 39 screw mount, my A mount lenses and of course the EF.

    But my Phase lenses.....too bad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtle View Post
    ...Sure, they have their glitches, but they are not only fun, they are supremely pro-worthy tools. Fun tools capable of the finest IQ in the FF format... Brilliant, brilliant tools for light traveling documentary/travel/field work and much more.
    That's really it. Wanna have fun? Wanna be serious? Wanna produce for a client a la Guy? This thing can do it in a pinch.

    It takes on the character of the lens you install. For the first time in a while I feel like I am shooting with a lens, not with a camera.

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    Re: A7 and A7r owners. Are we having fun yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by philip_pj View Post
    It's a wonderful camera, the kind that makes me want to shoot more just for the pleasure of the experience. Like some here, I had an a99 which Sony has improved on in most key respects. For those wondering, try to shoot a set of images in a shop a7r to quell any remaining qualms about it. I'm here in Tibet right now, altitude makes it hard to sleep deeply so I find myself dreaming about an FE 25mm and 85mm to go with the IQ of the FE 55. LOL. Once set up - thanks to so many here - it seems to be very close to a perfect travel / doco camera..
    Only gear knuckle heads dream of lenses. I dream of being 25 again, and a Sports Illustrated model is madly infatuated with me.

    Having fun? Hmmm.

    Yeah, sure … what's not to have fun with? It's a "dinky-do camera" that begs to tag along with you like a puppy.

    I don't get all "shot in the rump" with anything until I produce something I REALLY like with it … nothing to do with the gear per se, just a superstitious criteria. Hasn't really happened yet. Close, but no cigar.

    To be fair, I've been stuck in the house due to the ferocious winter weather and doing freelance ad work … and only really used the A7R for one job in Miami. If I shoot one more image in my house I'll kill myself.

    Frankly, I don't have my processing down yet either. I have a problem getting the "snap, crackle and pop" I like with cameras that have oodles of DR like this one. However, the color rendering and skin tones are excellent pretty much right out of the camera … just like my A900 and A99.

    Planning a trip to the Gulf coast beginning of March, just for goofing around and shooting. That'll help.

    Favorite lens on the A7R so far? … the FE55 is great, but I like the Noctilux better. Favorite A mount lens so far is the ZA24/2. Extremely fast focusing using the LAEA4 adapter. Still pretty small package.

    Most stuff I've done so far has been with the FE35/2.8. Good as it is, the jury is still out on that lens. Can't fault the acuity, but not in love with the character. All though, it's so dang small with the convenience of AF, it stays on the camera most of the time.

    Not liking what I've read about the FE24-70/4 so far. That is a key lens for this kit to work as a primary tool for me. Remains to be seen.

    This little Sony gear needs a smaller articulated TTL flash IMO. Still need fill flash in certain lighting conditions, despite its excellent ISO performance.

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    Re: A7 and A7r owners. Are we having fun yet.

    Yeah, Marc, I heard it this way:

    Journalist: Did you ever in your wildest dreams think you'd make it to the final four?
    Coach: Son, my wildest dreams aren't about basketball.

    But since we're discussing cameras and photography - I've read a lot about what wide angle RF lenses do and don't work with the A7(r), and it doesn't look good for my favorite lens this side of tech cameras, the 28 Cron, but what *is* a jewel in this focal length? I don't mind stopping down if it will get good detail and color to the corners.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    Yeah, Marc, I heard it this way:

    Journalist: Did you ever in your wildest dreams think you'd make it to the final four?
    Coach: Son, my wildest dreams aren't about basketball.

    But since we're discussing cameras and photography - I've read a lot about what wide angle RF lenses do and don't work with the A7(r), and it doesn't look good for my favorite lens this side of tech cameras, the 28 Cron, but what *is* a jewel in this focal length? I don't mind stopping down if it will get good detail and color to the corners.

    Thanks,

    Matt
    Matt, I'm pretty darn happy with what I see out of the Leica Elmarit-R 24mm f/2.8 on the A7 sensor. I'm pretty sure the Elmarit-R 28mm would do as well or better. I posted it elsewhere, but here's the corner/edge behavior focused at about 6' distance in a composite image:
    Leica Elmarit-R 24mm - Corner Performance on A7

    At greater focus distances, theres a small bit more smudging visible at the very corners, which cleans up nicely at f/5.6 or so.

    In general, SLR lenses are more likely to be an optical match to "FF" format digital sensors, particularly once you get down to lenses with focal length shorter than the format diagonal.

    (As soon as my mount adapter gets here, I'm going to test the M-mount Voigtländer Ultron 28mm f/2 as well. I've heard that it does well on the A7 sensor, and a quick test at the store the other day was encouraging. It's a more retrofocus design than many other M-mount 28mm lenses, which helps.)
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    Godfrey,

    Thank you. That makes sense, and I've certainly seen much to admire in images from the R lenses.

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    I have been looking for digital solutions for my Leica R lenses for a long time and Sony A7r fits the bill very nicely and without any IQ issues. As for Leica M lenses, I much prefer using them on Leica M bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean View Post
    I have been looking for digital solutions for my Leica R lenses for a long time and Sony A7r fits the bill very nicely and without any IQ issues. As for Leica M lenses, I much prefer using them on Leica M bodies.
    I can only agree with that, at least as far as the A7 body is concerned. If I go through with one plan of action, I'll acquire an A7r body as well ... so far, what I'm seeing from others shooting with the A7r and Leica R lenses has been promising too.

    M bodies or the Ricoh GXR A12 Camera Mount (APS-C format) that was designed for M-mount lenses are the best choices for those lenses. And it's not just format size, that's the kicker: I've not been overly impressed with M-mount lenses' performance on either Micro-FourThirds or Sony NEX (excepting the 5n and 6 models) either.

    Sensor optimization for the short register lenses is the key; only the M bodies and the GXR sensors were intentionally optimized for that purpose.

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    Mixed feelings so far.

    The situation with wide lenses (usable edge sharpness for landscape/architecture style of work) is simply frustrating. By now I haven't found a lens wider than 35mm that really works satisfactorily. Either the lenses are soft at the edges (like most wide ZM, Leica M and Voigtländer lenses) or they suffer from heavy field curvature (like the Zeiss 2.0/24 ZA... which also shows too much CAs for my taste). The TS-E 24 II is certainly great... but at this focal length I actually don't need movements. Too... actually I'd prefer a 28mm over 24mm. And 20mm is too wide...
    The FE 2.8/35 ZA is good... but certainly not stellar. My copy is very sharp in the center and midfield right from f2.8. For really good edge performance you have to stop down to f5.6 ... better f8 (due to some field curvature... otherwise it's sharp at the edges from f4). The light falloff of this lens is heavy. Really heavy! So when you correct the light falloff in post you end up with noisy edges (not a problem at base ISO... but clearly visible when you go somewhat higher with the ISO setting). It also shows CAs. At least my sample is perfectly centered... so I can use it.
    I've just returned the second sample of a FE 1.8/55 since both have been decentered. For the time beeing I don't have any plans to do further beta testing. I don't like the look of the lens very much either ... so I will use my Zeiss ZM 2.0/50 (which works really great on the A7R ... it has to be stopped down a bit, of course. Then again it shows moiré at f5.6 at the edges ... so the lens is certainly sharp enough for the A7R's sensor).
    I also don't like the focus by wire technique of the FE lenses. The ZMs are so much nicer (and more precise) to focus manually. I have been shipped a ZM Tele Tessar 4/85. I'll test it on weekend.
    I am waiting for my Contax PC-Distagon 2.8/35 (should be here in Germany end of next week or so). If it's as good as reported on the A7R, I'll sell the FE 2.8/35 (since I don't like the manual fosusing, the field curvature and the light falloff). The PC-Distagon also covers a focal range up to 24mm when stitching. Maybe this solves my problem with wides to some degree (at least for static subjects). The PC-Distagon 35mm, the ZM 2.0/50 and the ZM 4/85 would make a perfect kit for me. I don't need more lenses for this camera.
    I go through all this BS with buying, testing, returning/exchanging and researching lenses because I like the camera (the sensor and the handling) ... and I really want to make it work for me.

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    All I can say is, what alternate reality is this, where some of the best image quality comes from small and relatively affordable Sony cameras! Shouldn't it be big, heavy, cost as much as a small car and have a waiting list months long? Where's the mystique in a camera that just plain works right out of the box, without at least a couple of remedial trips to a factory in a distant land?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4season View Post
    All I can say is, what alternate reality is this, where some of the best image quality comes from small and relatively affordable Sony cameras! Shouldn't it be big, heavy, cost as much as a small car and have a waiting list months long? Where's the mystique in a camera that just plain works right out of the box, without at least a couple of remedial trips to a factory in a distant land?
    Not sure what camera you're imagining there. I've never bought any new camera that didn't work right out of the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I hope all of you read my front page article by now and if not you better get on it. LOL

    Just kidding but the article really leads to this new question here are we having fun.
    Looks over at X-T1, yawns and hugs A7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    Mixed feelings so far.

    The situation with wide lenses (usable edge sharpness for landscape/architecture style of work) is simply frustrating. By now I haven't found a lens wider than 35mm that really works satisfactorily. Either the lenses are soft at the edges (like most wide ZM, Leica M and Voigtländer lenses) or they suffer from heavy field curvature (like the Zeiss 2.0/24 ZA... which also shows too much CAs for my taste). The TS-E 24 II is certainly great... but at this focal length I actually don't need movements. Too... actually I'd prefer a 28mm over 24mm. And 20mm is too wide...
    Have you tried the M-Rokkor 28mm? I have heard and seen great things.

    I have the 24mm Minolta MD /2.8 and it is excellent. Very little distortion or field curvature and the corners performance is very good - excellent really, right up to the tip of the corner - no color casts at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Show Performance View Post
    Have you tried the M-Rokkor 28mm? I have heard and seen great things.

    I have the 24mm Minolta MD /2.8 and it is excellent. Very little distortion or field curvature and the corners performance is very good - excellent really, right up to the tip of the corner - no color casts at all.
    I second this . . . . I was using the Minolta 24mm today with my A850. An excellent lens.

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    I am having so much fun, I feel guilty...

    I have literally been out of (serious) photography for 25 years. I had a Canon 20D for a bit, but I found the quality a bit disappointing so I gave it to my daughter.

    Almost 10 years later, I thought, "Well if I don't get back into it now, I likely never will." I started doing my research, and came very close to buying a D610 as when I was a working photog, I always shot Nikons. <3 F4

    But I came across the A7/R and thought that with the lens adapter flexibility, maybe I'll scrounge for some old sweet glass and have some fun.

    Never thought I'd: a) Buy a Sony camera, or b) Buy a Tokina lens. c) or a Sigma, d) or a Tamron... but wow.

    Boy, am I having fun.

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    I'm having as much fun as it's possible to have with your clothes on - and sometimes, more!

    I can always tell when I'm smitten (and it so often doesn't happen) when I buy all the 'bits' and start selling other stuff. This week I purchased a VGrip and a F43m flash, and my 24-70 is due I hope tomorrow. I have two A7R bodies and might add an A7. I also pre-ordered the 70-200 today.

    I'm keeping the D800 because it is useful for those rare times I need tracking (not that it's very good at it) and currently for longer lens and bad weather use. I also am keeping many of my Nikon lenses but I am going to sell my adapted 50 R Cron (never thought that would happen!) and my Zeiss 100mm Macro Planar, and my Nikkor 28mm F1.8G and all my Leica M glass other than the F1 Nocti and the 90mm Macro Elmar. So the 18mm Super Elmar is going, the 28 Cron is going, the 35 Lux is going... and I'm selling my M240 - and my E-M1 and 12-40 and Panny 100-300 will go as soon as I have ascertained that a downresed A7R/24-70 does better than an E-M1/12-40.

    Keeping my RX1 and RX100 and IQ180...

    So now I will be a nearly all Sony guy. Who'd a thunk it, really?

    Now if the British weather would now just let me outside for a while!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    I'm keeping the D800 because it is useful for those rare times I need tracking (not that it's very good at it) and currently for longer lens and bad weather use. I also am keeping many of my Nikon lenses but I am going to sell my adapted 50 R Cron (never thought that would happen!) and my Zeiss 100mm Macro Planar, and my Nikkor 28mm F1.8G and all my Leica M glass other than the F1 Nocti and the 90mm Macro Elmar.

    Keeping my RX1 and RX100 and IQ180...
    I'm also keeping my D800e.... just can't think of a good reason to sell it. Would never sell my 100mm Planar - its just too good. The one lens that has totally surprised me is the Nikon 85mm 1.8. Light and sharp.... a little pita because of having to dial down the aperture with the Novoflex but the results are really worth it. Of course my IQ180 stays until something 'really' better comes along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    I'm having as much fun as it's possible to have with your clothes on - and sometimes, more!

    I can always tell when I'm smitten (and it so often doesn't happen) when I buy all the 'bits' and start selling other stuff. This week I purchased a VGrip and a F43m flash, and my 24-70 is due I hope tomorrow. I have two A7R bodies and might add an A7. I also pre-ordered the 70-200 today.

    I'm keeping the D800 because it is useful for those rare times I need tracking (not that it's very good at it) and currently for longer lens and bad weather use. I also am keeping many of my Nikon lenses but I am going to sell my adapted 50 R Cron (never thought that would happen!) and my Zeiss 100mm Macro Planar, and my Nikkor 28mm F1.8G and all my Leica M glass other than the F1 Nocti and the 90mm Macro Elmar. So the 18mm Super Elmar is going, the 28 Cron is going, the 35 Lux is going... and I'm selling my M240 - and my E-M1 and 12-40 and Panny 100-300 will go as soon as I have ascertained that a downresed A7R/24-70 does better than an E-M1/12-40.

    Keeping my RX1 and RX100 and IQ180...

    So now I will be a nearly all Sony guy. Who'd a thunk it, really?

    Now if the British weather would now just let me outside for a while!
    Looks like I'm not the only one . Now that makes a positive statement for Sony. Lol

    Tim full report on the 24-70 . Lol
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    I'm 90 percent there on ordering a ZA 24 today. My new ZA 135 1.8 will be here tomorrow. Or a Zeiss 25f2 and let the zoom gap me from 25- 55. I think the zoom will be good starting at 28 so I want a good 24/25 ish lens
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    Guy, I bought the ZA 135/1.8 several years ago on Marc's recommendation (Marc shot my wedding 10 years ago and my son's bar mitzvah last month). It is probably the best lens I own, and if it was a bit smaller I would probably use it more. I have the 70-200/2.8G that I bought from Marc, and while it is also a great lens, it is NOTHING compared to the ZA 135/1.8. If I could only find a way to retrofit it onto my Leica M6, I would be in heaven.

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    Really looking forward to the 135.

    I think what folks outside the Sony zone are not realizing what this cam can do and it fast is with these AF Sony lenses in The FINDER I can AF hold shutter half way down hit my zoom with my thumb focus at 100 percent hit zoom agin and return to full image while still holding the shutter half way. Compose and shoot IN the finder without taking my eye away to look at the LCD. I have a HOODMAN loupe for sale. That folks was a NIKON dig
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    This camera has been a dream come true. A small mirrorless FF!
    I love it even with my cloth on.

    Guy, did you try your samyang/rokinon 14mm already on the A7r?
    I saw some awesome images with it. It will be my next purchase, i think.

    For now I am also very happy with the VC Ultron 21, sharp, no distortion and the colours are very easy to correct.

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    Michael, I have tried my Samyang and it is indeed very good - the sensor does show up a mild 'coarseness' of drawing style but that really is nit-picking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    This camera has been a dream come true. A small mirrorless FF!
    I love it even with my cloth on.

    Guy, did you try your samyang/rokinon 14mm already on the A7r?
    I saw some awesome images with it. It will be my next purchase, i think.

    For now I am also very happy with the VC Ultron 21, sharp, no distortion and the colours are very easy to correct.
    No but getting one in the E mount looks like fun. On the list but later. Need to get my main lenses in first. I'm almost there. Need a new ski mask. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    ...and I'm selling my M240 - and my E-M1 and 12-40 and Panny 100-300 will go as soon as I have ascertained that a downresed A7R/24-70 does better than an E-M1/12-40.

    Keeping my RX1 and RX100 and IQ180...

    So now I will be a nearly all Sony guy. Who'd a thunk it, really?

    Now if the British weather would now just let me outside for a while!
    In the past few months I sold my EM5, tried an EM1 and didn't get on with it, tried GX7 and didn't get on with it, sold my GM1, sold Panaleica 25/1.4, Oly 45/1.8, Oly 12-50 kit zoom, Panny 14/2.8, Oly 75/1.8 (only one I kinda regret selling), Panny 35-100/2.8, Canon EF 50/1.4 and 135/f2, and S110. My wife still has her 6D with 24-105/4 and 16-35/2.8 but it rarely comes out of the drawer.

    Now, it is RX100ii, RX1r, A7 (probably about to be swapped for an A7r), FE 35/2.8 and 55/1.8. I've not been much of a Sony guy previously. I tried to like the a77 but just didn't. I had an RX100 but didn't bond with it. The A7 changed everything. In fact I'm eying the RX100ii thinking, "hmm, that go towards keeping the A7 I have and instead of swapping just adding an A7r."

    Evil…..this place is evil I tell ya…

    oh, and the new a6000 actually might be interesting, since the FE lenses will mount on it. Damn those engineers...

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    The a6000 looks interesting. For me it could take the Sony A7 place. All I need in that body for runway stuff is 20-24mpx. Fast AF and continuous at that and be able to bolt on a 70-200 ZA or FE and or a Minolta 200 2.8 high speed. Hmmmmmmmmmm
    And since it takes the FE lenses well thats a huge plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    The a6000 looks interesting. For me it could take the Sony A7 place. All I need in that body for runway stuff is 20-24mpx. Fast AF and continuous at that and be able to bolt on a 70-200 ZA or FE and or a Minolta 200 2.8 high speed. Hmmmmmmmmmm
    And since it takes the FE lenses well thats a huge plus.
    My thoughts exactly Guy. A fast AF back-up to the "Big Gun" A7R … for those occasions when needed.

    $650 rather than $1,500 looks good also

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    My thoughts exactly Guy. A fast AF back-up to the "Big Gun" A7R … for those occasions when needed.

    $650 rather than $1,500 looks good also

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    Im sitting here thinking you know how dangerous that can be. My guess is we use our Sony 4 adapter for it. If I get the ZA 24 that gives me 3 ZA lenses already and than the FE glass should work. Okay whats the downside.

    If I sold my A7 I can get the ZA 24 that I planned but I can order the FE 24-70 that I have not ordered yet. Spare change and get a second adapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Michael, I have tried my Samyang and it is indeed very good - the sensor does show up a mild 'coarseness' of drawing style but that really is nit-picking...
    If ever weather and time permits post some in the fun thread....I am very curious.

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    They did mention a A77 successor of Sony rumors next month too.
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    you guys are hopeless ...

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    As my father always said to me, "son, you're not useless - you can always serve as a bad example."
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