Annna T
Active member
No surprise here, it got a gold award with a score of 82 points
Sony Alpha 7R Review: Digital Photography Review
Sony Alpha 7R Review: Digital Photography Review
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DPreview review of A7r is out
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jlindstrom
Member
Well, with a brief look at the last page they seem to have nailed things down quite nicely. Though some of the issues mentioned there are purely non-issues for me, I can understand some would be annoyed by them.
Fairly honest assessment, I'd say.
//Juha
Fairly honest assessment, I'd say.
//Juha
jonoslack
Active member
I think I must be the casual snap shooter the camera isn't for 
They don't seem to notice the shutter cacophony, so maybe it's my imagination. Generally speaking I think it's good that they've awarded it a gold - let's face it, it's more innovative than the A7 - I'd still rather have the A7 though (unless they come up with some firmware improvements).
They don't seem to notice the shutter cacophony, so maybe it's my imagination. Generally speaking I think it's good that they've awarded it a gold - let's face it, it's more innovative than the A7 - I'd still rather have the A7 though (unless they come up with some firmware improvements).
Bill Caulfeild-Browne
Well-known member
Pretty fair review, IMHO after a few weeks shooting with the a7r.
Surprised they didn't mention the shutter clunk in the Cons though. Personally it doesn't bother my style of photography at all but "people shooters" must find it irritating..
Surprised they didn't mention the shutter clunk in the Cons though. Personally it doesn't bother my style of photography at all but "people shooters" must find it irritating..
nostatic
New member
Today we had a 2-star general visiting our lab. I documented some of it, snapping away happily in dead silence with the RX1r. When I picked up the A7r, I took one photo, two people in the group turned to look because of the shutter noise, and I put it away and continued with the RX1r. A7 would have been a bit less disruptive, but for some environments it is somewhat all or nothing.
I think the A7r would be better with the EFC from the A7. I think it would be a total home run with the leaf shutter from the RX1(r).
I think the A7r would be better with the EFC from the A7. I think it would be a total home run with the leaf shutter from the RX1(r).
Michiel Schierbeek
Well-known member
They came to their senses
BTW I got used to the clack sound, I don't notice it anymore.
BTW I got used to the clack sound, I don't notice it anymore.
Chuck Jones
Subscriber Member
I'm with Michael. You think this thing has shutter noise, you should have shot medium format film a few years back. Now THAT was some shutter noise ;=)
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Fairly decent review.
W.Utsch
Member
Yes, but still some arguable cons:
No in Cam Raw conversion?
No build in flash ?
No live view with remote software? (i have live view on my iPad when on remote)
Menu poor? (i like it, the best Sony menu so far)
JPEG quality.
None of these i can see as a con!
The shutter speed at Auto ISO thing is true, but just change to M Mode in lower light. Firmware update may help.
And yes, it happened to me that i moved the Ex comp wheel with no intention.
No in Cam Raw conversion?
No build in flash ?
No live view with remote software? (i have live view on my iPad when on remote)
Menu poor? (i like it, the best Sony menu so far)
JPEG quality.
None of these i can see as a con!
The shutter speed at Auto ISO thing is true, but just change to M Mode in lower light. Firmware update may help.
And yes, it happened to me that i moved the Ex comp wheel with no intention.
jlindstrom
Member
Indeed, many of the cons are non-exististing for target audience. What's the point of separate in camera raw conversion? For that you shoot jpeg, right? That's conversion.. built-in flash is something you'll know in advance, prior to purchase and fex I bought this thing to specifically avoid the flash!
Menu's could be better, I agree. I'd like menu's a la Leica. But it's not something you'll care about after a while when one gets used to them.
Jpeg quality, to a certain extent. But this camera is meant for raw shooting and jpegs are for like quick review..
I think the real cons/wish list would be more like:
- loud/clumsy shutter (isn't really big, but better ones are out there)
- battery life
- native lens selection, so far
- auto iso implementation
- menu system to a degree (better ones exist)
- sd-card cover could be better
- phase/hybrid af would be brilliant
But none of these are really "killers" in the current implementation. Pro's outweight cons currently.
//Juha
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Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Add two card slots
Ario Arioldi
Member
My personal list of cons:
-menù is difficult to understand and manage
-user manual does not help
-AF could be better
-Auto Iso implementation is almost unusable
-Start up is very slow
- The display cannot be completely switched off
- Lossy raw compression should be an option not a must
-menù is difficult to understand and manage
-user manual does not help
-AF could be better
-Auto Iso implementation is almost unusable
-Start up is very slow
- The display cannot be completely switched off
- Lossy raw compression should be an option not a must
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
You can change that to several other custom buttons
Ario Arioldi
Member
I find C1 a very convenient choice.
Godfrey
Well-known member
Whenever I think my Nikon F is loud, I just pull out the Hasseblad 500CM and fire off a few frames. Visions of working in the engine room of a steam-powered trawler wander through my head. Then I go shooting with the Nikon and it seems utterly silent and vibrationless. ;-)
Had a party to go to last evening so for the first time in a couple of weeks I pick up the Olympus E-M1, fitted the Panasonic 14mm + wide converter, and stuff it and the Summilux 25 into my bag. Made 20 photos at the party. What a slick, fast, small, light, and superbly ergonomic camera that is! I was controlling the camera from my iPad mini, brought all the exposures into iMovie, rolled them into a movie presentation with titling and a sound track, integrated a short video clip, and emailed it to everyone there ... all in ten minutes while I was still there at the party.
The photo/audio-visual/realization tools we have today are simply amazing.
I guess I should look at the DPR blather sometime, eh?
G
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
I'm a left eyed shooter and for some reason the center button just fits better to me and my thumb is right there anyway. It's certainly a feel thing. BTW our dear Cindy Flood gave us a tip awhile back by using a product called Sugru. I think that is how it is spelled but anyway its a rubber that you can form. And place on the C1 function button to make it bigger which I took her advice and it works really nice. I'll get a link here up if you folks want to try it. Very nice solution.