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Sony A7/A7r with old lenses

arri

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Really old!
Today my Zeiss Jena Planar 4.5/50mm arrived, made in 1900 means 117 years old. I mount it in a Russian Industar barrel, it is adjusted to infinity and can now be use with a rangefinder and a mirrorless camera.
This old style Planar were my most wanted lens, in 50mm nearly impossible to find and made so early, I can´t believe it.
The Planar were patented in 1896 by Dr. Paul Rudolph and it is the forefather of all modern lenses. Six elements in four groups, a fully symmetric double Gauss design.
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Vivek

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Really old!
Today my Zeiss Jena Planar 4.5/50mm arrived, made in 1900 means 117 years old. I mount it in a Russian Industar barrel, it is adjusted to infinity and can now be use with a rangefinder and a mirrorless camera.
This old style Planar were my most wanted lens, in 50mm nearly impossible to find and made so early, I can´t believe it.
The Planar were patented in 1896 by Dr. Paul Rudolph and it is the forefather of all modern lenses. Six elements in four groups, a fully symmetric double Gauss design.
Hi Wolfgang, Most likely, I have even older (than yours) samples of 2cm, 3.5cm, 5.5cm and 7.5cm Planars. The cm to mm transition could be a clue. All these were made for macro work. My 5.5cm f/4.5 Planar is infinity corrected.


Show some pics taken with yours. :)

The Leitz Summar is coated.
 

arri

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Hi Wolfgang, Most likely, I have even older (than yours) samples of 2cm, 3.5cm, 5.5cm and 7.5cm Planars. The cm to mm transition could be a clue. All these were made for macro work. My 5.5cm f/4.5 Planar is infinity corrected.


Show some pics taken with yours. :)

The Leitz Summar is coated.
Hi Vivek,
in the years between 1910-1918, I don´t know it exactly, the focus Informations changed from mm to cm. Means your Planar lenses are much younger than this one. It has a Serial # of 80710 and this dates it of 1900 or 1901.
I have some Goerz lenses, the oldest ones are in mm and the newer ones are in cm.
In the late 1950th and early 1960 the focus informations changed again but now from cm back to mm.
 

arri

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Planar 50mm f/4.5
My first test shot with the vintage, or better, antique Planar lens.
This sample in colour shows that the Planar is full colour corrected.
The corners are not 100% sharp but this is an issue every lens of this age has, especially when in use with a digital camera, it were computed for analogue film material and 117 years ago no one has an idea about a digital full frame camera.
 

arri

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A 1920 Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar. Made original for a 35mm cine camera, I mount the lens in a barrel of a Russian Industar lens.
I find the quality is not bad for this old lady.
The last picture is a 100% cut out.
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arri

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Today I finished a Schneider Kreuznach Xenon 2.8/50mm, made in 1937. It is out of an old Kodak Retina rangfinder camera but I got it mounted in a shutter only, without the body, so "we agreed" that it got a new job in a new mount.
It is a five element system, computed by A.W.Tronnier.
 

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arri

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Just finished, a Zeiss Jena Triotar 3.5/50mm out of a Zeiss Ikon Super Nettel but I got it in a mount for a Zeiss Ikon enlarger, I don´t know the history why it were used for enlarging, I would never dismantle a Super Nettel for a Triotar, so it were luck to get a lens without camera.
It is a three element anastigmat and it should have a good quality, three element lenses are en vogue in the moment but no one uses a Triotar, now I have a chance and I will post my samples here when I find time but so much other lenses are waiting for a new mount.
This one has now a Leica screw mount for the rangefinder or a mirrorless systemcamera.
The lens were made in 1935.
 

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arri

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An old AGFA Solinar out of a pre war Karat camera, uncoated glass. Tessar type lens, original made at the AGFA in Munich.
I removed the lens cells, mount them into an aperture barrel and than into a Leica M39 screw mount.
It is full usable with the rangefinder of a Leica and with a mirrorless camera as well.
In this kind a unique lens I guess.
AGFA lenses are more rare than the others from the famous German lens makers but I always enjoy to use a "new" one
 

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gurtch

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Just finished, a Zeiss Jena Triotar 3.5/50mm out of a Zeiss Ikon Super Nettel but I got it in a mount for a Zeiss Ikon enlarger, I don´t know the history why it were used for enlarging, I would never dismantle a Super Nettel for a Triotar, so it were luck to get a lens without camera.
It is a three element anastigmat and it should have a good quality, three element lenses are en vogue in the moment but no one uses a Triotar, now I have a chance and I will post my samples here when I find time but so much other lenses are waiting for a new mount.
This one has now a Leica screw mount for the rangefinder or a mirrorless systemcamera.
The lens were made in 1935.
Great craftsmanship. Looking forward to pictures taken with some of your conversions. Keep them coming!
Dave
 

arri

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Just finished, a Zeiss Jena Triotar 3.5/50mm out of a Zeiss Ikon Super Nettel but I got it in a mount for a Zeiss Ikon enlarger, I don´t know the history why it were used for enlarging, I would never dismantle a Super Nettel for a Triotar, so it were luck to get a lens without camera.
It is a three element anastigmat and it should have a good quality, three element lenses are en vogue in the moment but no one uses a Triotar, now I have a chance and I will post my samples here when I find time but so much other lenses are waiting for a new mount.
This one has now a Leica screw mount for the rangefinder or a mirrorless systemcamera.
The lens were made in 1935.
Here are three samples I made today
 

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arri

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Voigtländer Heliar 3.5/55mm made in 1934. I removed the complete lens and shutter out of the camera, so it is possible to replace it again any time. It were mounted in a 127 format camera and Voigtlander were the only company which uses 55mm lenses for it, all others are used only 50mm lenses and this ones have often problems to cover the full frame of 30x40mm with a ral good quality. This short Heliar is only find in a vintage Perkeo 3x4 but very hard to find, the mount used lenses in this cameras wer the Voigtar and the Skopar.
I used a Leica Nooky close up focus mount, with it I can gave the lens a correct cam for a Rangefinder camera, it were a little bit difficult but it works, I use this gem with my Sony A7.
 

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