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    Fun with A7S

    Hope the fun can start and many more pictures will follow my little contribution today.
    Pictures are from Vrsac, SRB and shot with A7S and 55mm f1.8.





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    [QUOTE=G43;595154]Hope the fun can start and many more pictures will follow my little contribution today.
    Pictures are from Vrsac, SRB and shot with A7S and 55mm f1.8.
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    Very nice. What were the aperture and exposure settings for the third photo and if you remember what was the focus point?

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    Thanks jfirneno

    Please see EXIF data on my flickr photostream link below.

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    the A7s got that fat pixel look to its files for sure. I'm loving mine!

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    Re: Fun with A7S

    It's what I have been noticing immediately with this cam is the files look to have really nice tonality to them. I like it a lot. This could be trouble.

    I really want to wait for Photokinia but my interest in this one has gone up more than I thought it would.

    Keep posting images folks
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    I hope this fun thread will show what the camera is worth. Frankly, yesterday was the the first time I was outdoor with the camera and somehow I felt bonded to it right away. I didn't see that coming
    The real pleasure came when I started processing the files I was positively surprised how much inherent latitude the files contains. You may push and pull pretty much here without noise becomes distracting. The colors are pretty robust against aggressive PP if one wish (which I don't). Of course one should keep up good exposure manners to obtain the optimum basic file, but good to see how deep the sensor reaches.
    Obviously what we see is a result of less aggressive amplification of color luminance and hence the clean look.
    12 fat Mega Pixels furthermore opens up for a great deal of usable lenses too.

    The appearance of the S is good timnig for me. I am going to do an e-book about the little society I live in here the next 3 months

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    Took a walk in town today.

    The Priest in the Church shot was ISO 12800.
    Other camera settings please look at my Flickr site.

    To be continued with permission..

















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    Another one

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    The A7S files developed in ACR shows a tad magenta hue.
    Setting the WB, a tad to the left of the hue scale towards green. Perhaps just -1 to -2. removes the slight exaggeration of magenta. IMO.

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    Todays shots.. that's all for now.

    The 7S works for me like a power horse. Not too many cylinders, but what it got, it got in abundance.

    (My bad for the posted pictures in this thread. None were converted into sRGB )







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    great photos! let's keep this thread going

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    Took the A7S on a road trip to some sleepy towns throughout New England. The A7s re-energized my Voigtlander 12mm 5.6. A lens that was not good on the M240. With the ISO boost, this lens even can be a night shooter! stay tuned for more shots

    Roadtrip starts!
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    FE 35/2.8 @ f/3.2 ISO 32000
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    FE 35/2.8 @ 3.5 ISO 40000
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    Re: Fun with A7S

    Have to say this as I been observing these images you folks are posting lately. This camera reminds me very much of fat pixel medium format look. Like my old Phase P25 9 micron sensor but with that you will see more moire in these images with the fat pixel A7s. Something to be aware of but I am really liking the look of it. If a A99II comes out with a 36mpx sensor I maybe selling all three of my bodies A7r,A77II and A6000 for a A99II for all my real work and this A7s as the travel, art cam. This cam looks to be the look cam. Hard to deny it as the tonal range is very sweet to the eye. Keep posting images folks
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    The moire, and I know it's there, hasn't shown its ugly face yet. Buy surely one day some fabric or textured architectural shots will show it. No other way than to treat it in PP should it show up on a keeper.
    I can't help to say it, the IQ reminds me a bit of the CDD look, but hell with a lot more DR.

    It is perhaps beginner 'wowing' that causes my beloved EM1 haven't been touched since the 7S stepped over my door step. But I must admit the files are much more robust to PP then the tiny stressed EM1 MFT files.
    Should Sony on top of this little treasure camera offer a bundle of nice FE glass.. the EM1 is out of work until MFT format sensors becomes considerably better re. noise.
    That said the 7S is not even close to the user performance and good feeling the EM1 offers the photographer.

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    OK.. a few more











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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    OK.. a few more……..
    Hi - I'm having an internal debate about the differing attractions of a7r/a7s, and I may just be favouring fat pixels. I'm curious; [for the type of images you've been posting], what size do you think a7s files will print well?

    …………… Chris

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    Re: Fun with A7S

    Folks since this is a high ISO cam on the market when posting images as always we like to see what lenses you are shooting as it helps others make good buying decision. It would also be nice to see the ISO settings your using as it does help others know what to expect and what effect the noise has on the images.

    I thank you in advance
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    Re: Fun with A7S

    I agree Guy, thanks. Ario, what lenses did you shoot those images with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erudolph View Post
    I agree Guy, thanks. Ario, what lenses did you shoot those images with?
    Both images were shot with FE 35/2.8 at 32000 and 40000 ISO respectively. Both were developed in LR, the first one without luminance noise reduction, the second one with 50 luminance noise reduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ario Arioldi View Post
    Both images were shot with FE 35/2.8 at 32000 and 40000 ISO respectively. Both were developed in LR, the first one without luminance noise reduction, the second one with 50 luminance noise reduction.
    That performance is so good it's ridiculous. If anything, the noise/grain in Ario's black and white treatment serves to improve the atmosphere of the images.
    Time to sell a kidney!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris C View Post
    Hi - I'm having an internal debate about the differing attractions of a7r/a7s, and I may just be favouring fat pixels. I'm curious; [for the type of images you've been posting], what size do you think a7s files will print well?

    …………… Chris
    Chris.. to my experience 10" x 13" will look good.

    EDITION: I meant actually 13 x 18.

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    Those pictures I posted are mainly shot with the 55mm.
    All shooting details are to find on my flickr link.

    However I promise to state the details in the future. I can certainly confirm that you get pleasant results at ISO 40000 converting to B&W whereas I would say ISO 12800 is the limit for color. But each to their own.

    I've just ordered a Metabones Canon EF Lens to E-mount adapter. It is a shame I have a brand new Zeiss Distagon f2.8 laying around without a happy camera to mount it on LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ario Arioldi View Post
    Both images were shot with FE 35/2.8 at 32000 and 40000 ISO respectively. Both were developed in LR, the first one without luminance noise reduction, the second one with 50 luminance noise reduction.
    WOW. Now that is impressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    Chris.. to my experience ….[13" x 18"]…. will look good.
    Thank you; much appreciated.

    ……………. Chris

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    VERY nice files!

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    iso 5000. 3 shot stitch. I over pushed the black hull. I thought I was shooting in raw but these were actually jpegs

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    ISO 64,000. yeah, that's right, 64k. no noise reduction jpeg (but I think some NR cannot be turned off in jpeg). very dim lit bar shot with a 12mm 5.6 lens at f5.6

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    iso 8000. 12mm f5.6 no noise reduction
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    iso 100
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    Yes yes...
    Wonderful. The camera opens up to new adventures not possible before because of lack of light. We talk perhaps 1,5 - 2 lesser noise floor than the main crowd of FF cameras (Not all perhaps?).
    Another convenient ISO setting is ISO 50 and up. Comes as a comprehensive ND filter.

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    ƒ/6.3 55.0 mm 1/320 1600
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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    Chris.. to my experience 10" x 13" will look good.

    EDITION: I meant actually 13 x 18.
    I made a small series of A3 sized prints from the A7S tiff files, upsampled, 300 dpi. Epson 4900.

    From a typical watching distance 1 -2 meters, 3 - 6 feet, the prints looks gorgeous. There IS a MF look to those prints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    I made a small series of A3 sized prints from the A7S tiff files, upsampled, 300 dpi. Epson 4900.
    It's my understanding prints will look best when upsampled to printer's native resolution, which would be 360dpi for Epson 4900, so you might want to give that a try.

    In any case, from dealing with my D700 files I would be very comfortable doing 11x17" prints from A7S.

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    Zoran, I did.. it was a typo slipping through my lousy editing.

    11 x 17 is safe for high ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    Zoran, I did.. it was a typo slipping through my lousy editing.

    11 x 17 is safe for high ISO.
    Cool Please keep on sharing your experiences with us. I don't have an A7S, I use A7R, but I am having an interest in S.

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    BTW, D700 is IMO one of the coolest fat pixel cameras. A legend perhaps.

    It is strange? I can't go back to my EM1, but maybe it's just a luscious love affair I have with the 7S?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G43 View Post
    BTW, D700 is IMO one of the coolest fat pixel cameras. A legend perhaps.

    It is strange? I can't go back to my EM1, but maybe it's just a luscious love affair I have with the 7S?
    Files from my EM5 were very often not to my liking. There was nothing technically wrong with them per se, they just were not to my liking. I know many people were/are happy with them but I was not. On the other hand I loved files from A7R moment I took very first one (now if only Sony would offer losless RAW ...), and from what I am seeing so far I would feel same about ones from A7S. Who knows why, is it what some describe as "fat pixel look" or something else, all I know is that I like it and that I always got it when I used full frame cameras.

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    I suppose the A7R is superior in the mid and high tones rendering whereas the A7S is superior in the darker tones maintaining a higher contrast, at least for higher ISO.

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    APO Telyt 135/3.4 , ISO 20000
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    A7s, VM-E close focus adapter, Leica APO-Summicron 50 mm f/2 wide open:

    ISO 160


    ISO 320


    ISO 5000


    ISO 12,800 & Leica Noctilux @ f/0.95
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    & Both low and high ISO make for nice BW conversions...

    ISO 160
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    Nice to see this thread is slowly being filled up with 12MP S images.

    This early morning I had a walk through a very old, to say it mildly 'untouched' part of the ancient town. Full of it's own charm and some door entrances which I like a lot.

    I'll be a good boy and do some low light shooting soon. Perhaps more interesting to everybody?

    I made an extra final sharpening pass of the resized files at 25% 0,2 pix for Internet looking. Not really to my taste and the allowed file sizes here does not call for it either. My bad


    OK here we go:

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    Ashwin. Love the color version of the pool shot! Cant wait to see a monochrome version of this camera!

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    Thanks, Jorge! It's quite a camera, and Sony puts together a bayerless monochrome version, holy smokes...can't imagine what ISO performace would look like....strip away any remaining AA filter to boot, and wow...
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    Ashwin,

    Very impressive. Almost makes me want to buy another camera

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Thanks, Jorge! It's quite a camera, and Sony puts together a bayerless monochrome version, holy smokes...can't imagine what ISO performace would look like....strip away any remaining AA filter to boot, and wow...
    Ashwin.. you are into something here

    I finished a series of RAWs with the intention of B&W rendering as final outcome, meaning the scenes and objects are of more contrasty and textured nature.
    I even think the S is better at this than colors, even I like those much.

    Trashing the Beyer principle would be exciting, but I wouldn't know what to expect from it except what I have seen from the Mono M? Better tonality?

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    .... snip
    Trashing the Beyer principle would be exciting, but I wouldn't know what to expect from it except what I have seen from the Mono M? Better tonality?
    Probably the advantage would be the extended ISO range.
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