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    Re: The Sony A7II

    I see that the vertical grip is coming soon for a whopping $349.

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Hmm. Picking mine up tomorrow from . Vivek, Michiel. I promise that if I don't like it I'll sneak away silently! I have high hopes though

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    Hi Jono, I think you contributed (the other one being subscribers of a self declared know it all of all cameras gear), at least here, to the increased attention of the A7r. I will not take away from you!

    Congrats on the 4th camera of the A7 series!

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    Have fun with it Jono! I hope you like it, but that shutter......

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Have fun with it Jono! I hope you like it, but that shutter......
    We'll see - I didn't mind the shutter noise with EFC on the A7 - the problem was using it with my nice longer R lenses - incidentally - I hope you got my PM?

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    The Leica M was developed for customers who want to put their excellent Leica R lenses to digital use. The new LEICA R Adapter for the first time gives users the option of deploying almost any Leica R lens ever built with their Leica M. The camera menu lists more than 20 different R lenses from wide-angle, telephoto and zoom through to macro lenses, including calibrated imaging workflow and EXIF lens detection. The wide selection of lenses opens up new application options to Leica M photographers including HD video recording in conjunction with the Leica R Vario lenses and using lenses with focal lengths longer than 135mm.
    Whisper quiet shutter.

    Beautiful adapter!


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    "Out for delivery"

    My three favorite words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Whisper quiet shutter.

    Beautiful adapter!

    Which Shutter is that Vivek?
    The adapter is really nicely made isn't it - they still feel rock solid if you stack them ( T adapter M / M adapter R (or macro adapter M)). you can criticise them for lots, but at least they do these properly

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    Jono, The camera it was made for (see what I posted above that adapter which is a quote from Leica) to expressly use the fine R lenses. They have given a platform to use the R lenses in the new M.

    Yes, beautiful adapter. Not just the looks but also functionally to keep the R lenses secured. The after market ones do not offer that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    We'll see - I didn't mind the shutter noise with EFC on the A7 - the problem was using it with my nice longer R lenses - incidentally - I hope you got my PM?
    Jono,

    Are you referring to problems with EFC and R lenses? If so, what problem did you experience with longer R lenses? Thanks.

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Right on schedule, Adobe released an updated ACR for the new Sony. This will work for Photoshop, with the LR update coming next week.

    For those of us "early adopters" who don't want to wait a week or go through creating a DNG with Adobe's DNG converter, I've split out the A7ii profile folder into my Dropbox for download:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/rpxow4gbc6...E-7M2.zip?dl=0

    Unzip the file and put it into your directory folder with all the other Adobe camera profiles.

    As my camera is still on the truck, I won't be able to test this. In the meantime, if someone has a RAW file from the A7ii, or can point me to where I can download one, I'd be happy to test it.

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Quote Originally Posted by dandrewk View Post
    "Out for delivery"

    My three favorite words.
    My, we are an impatient lot, aren't we? (I include "me" in the "we"!)

    Unfortunately I have to wait until the 17th for shipping from Sony in Canada. Not sure why the delay - usually we get Sony gear a day or two ahead of the US, but not this time.

    So my favourite three words will have to wait a week and I'll have to live vicariously through the rest of you lucky early adopters. Maybe if you tell me how bad the camera is my heart rate will return to normal.

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    The Eagle has landed.

    Picked mine up a couple hours ago. Haven't had a lot of time to play but here are some very early impressions.

    1. IBIS is as advertised. Works great with my A-mount 135/1.8 on the LAEA. No visual confirmation of IBIS status like you had on A-mount which I miss, but it is doing its job.

    2. Ergonomics - hmmm, I'm not as excited as some reviewers. I prefer the original A7's front and rear dials for aperture and shutter as they are much more rigid and provide better feedback. The new plastic dials are soft and quiet so will likely be a personal preference. I also don't care for how close the front dial is to the power switch. I have already turned the camera off inadvertently once. The shutter button placement, at first appears to be more ideal but I'm not so sure. It is positioned farther to the right of the camera body so you have to pull your finger away from the camera in order to fit the fingertip on the button. Maybe with a soft release I could get used to shooting using the crease of my finger which would be more comfortable. The button itself is less spongy than the A7's and requires less pressure to activate.

    Haven't noticed any difference in the EVF although there may be some.

    Keep in mind, I griped about some of the ergonomics of the original when it came out but today it feels like second nature to operate.

    Beyond IBIS and ergonomics I haven't dug too deep yet but I did discover one KILLER feature that I am not aware was available on the A7 or A7s - Focus Hold. You can now program Focus Hold to any of the custom buttons, allowing you to hold initial focus between multiple shots. I can't tell you how many times I wished I had this feature outside of my lenses that have a hold button. BTW, C3 is about the only button you can comfortably program this feature to.

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    ^^^

    There is a review that claims IBIS is only activated at time of shutter release for third party lenses with no info supplied by the lens. This includes Nikon, Leica and several others.

    Can you verify this if you have the appropriate lens and adapter? It would be a disappointed to not have IBIS for manual focus, especially when zoomed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Show Performance View Post
    The Eagle has landed.

    Picked mine up a couple hours ago. Haven't had a lot of time to play but here are some very early impressions.

    1. IBIS is as advertised. Works great with my A-mount 135/1.8 on the LAEA. No visual confirmation of IBIS status like you had on A-mount which I miss, but it is doing its job.

    2. Ergonomics - hmmm, I'm not as excited as some reviewers. I prefer the original A7's front and rear dials for aperture and shutter as they are much more rigid and provide better feedback. The new plastic dials are soft and quiet so will likely be a personal preference. I also don't care for how close the front dial is to the power switch. I have already turned the camera off inadvertently once. The shutter button placement, at first appears to be more ideal but I'm not so sure. It is positioned farther to the right of the camera body so you have to pull your finger away from the camera in order to fit the fingertip on the button. Maybe with a soft release I could get used to shooting using the crease of my finger which would be more comfortable. The button itself is less spongy than the A7's and requires less pressure to activate.

    Haven't noticed any difference in the EVF although there may be some.

    Keep in mind, I griped about some of the ergonomics of the original when it came out but today it feels like second nature to operate.

    Beyond IBIS and ergonomics I haven't dug too deep yet but I did discover one KILLER feature that I am not aware was available on the A7 or A7s - Focus Hold. You can now program Focus Hold to any of the custom buttons, allowing you to hold initial focus between multiple shots. I can't tell you how many times I wished I had this feature outside of my lenses that have a hold button. BTW, C3 is about the only button you can comfortably program this feature to.
    Thanks, Chad. would you mind shifting this to this thread?

    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/sony/527...s-reports.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrewk View Post
    ^^^

    There is a review that claims IBIS is only activated at time of shutter release for third party lenses with no info supplied by the lens. This includes Nikon, Leica and several others.

    Can you verify this if you have the appropriate lens and adapter? It would be a disappointed to not have IBIS for manual focus, especially when zoomed in.

    From my tests:

    Steady Shot, when turned on, will activate when using focus zoom. You do NOT have to have the shutter half-pressed to activate.

    In normal composition view (not zoomed in) you DO need to press the shutter to activate Steady Shot.

    I think this is a very smart way to get the benefit of IBIS without a constant battery drain.

    I confirmed this on the LAEA-4, the TechArt Contax G adapter, a VM M-mount adapter (no electronics) and a Fotodiox Contax G adapter (no electronics)
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    Indeed, just confirmed it myself. I tested it with my Nikkor 105mm macro. When zooming in twice, BIG difference is jiggle with IBIS set to on. When set to off, I feel like I am riding on a bumpy road in a truck with a poor suspension system. When set to on, it's more like riding in a Lexus.

    There's no button to push, it's always there when you need it. For those worried about a battery drain, you can always turn IBIS off in the menu. You can even assign a custom button if you wish.
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    Finally got my tracking number from Amazon be here Tommorrow
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    I'm not seeing a pile of used A7 cameras in the "Gear For Sale" section... yet.

    NB: its hard to say A7 plural, is it A7s ?, then plural A7s is A7ss or A7ses?
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    A7i to avoid confusion. Or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sc_john View Post
    Jono,

    Are you referring to problems with EFC and R lenses? If so, what problem did you experience with longer R lenses? Thanks.

    John
    Hi John
    Just simple camera shake - I found I needed a very fast shutter speed (2xfocal length) even using EFC. Maybe it was mybad (but I reckon on 1/2 focal length on M cameras) - we shall see!

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    Please: an old fartographer wants to know what "EFC" is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benroy View Post
    Please: an old fartographer wants to know what "EFC" is.

    Roy Benson
    EFC = Electronic First Curtain

    EFCS = Electronic First Curtain Shutter

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    WEX in the UK seem to be showing free stock (if you want one?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    WEX in the UK seem to be showing free stock (if you want one?)
    Wex price at £1599 is even higher than Sony UK at £1498
    Although Sony UK don't have any in stock.
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    I was lucky Barry. I placed my Oder at £1299 and WEX honoured that price.
    I collected it today. time for a quick snap before sunset.



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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Jono
    Any first impressions?

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    Hi Lou
    First impressions are that its great, But I was planning to use at bit longer before saying much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I was lucky Barry. I placed my Oder at £1299 and WEX honoured that price.
    I collected it today. time for a quick snap before sunset.
    All the best
    Well that was a good fair price Jono, you did very well. Wex are a decent enough company with good after sales service. Both of my A7R's came from there and I would happily use them again. Not sure what gives with their current selling strategy, which is £100 more than retail though on the A72! - They probably need to make up a bit extra for selling yours at just £1299

    I recently tried out Panamoz just for a change with my 16-35mm FE, it arrived within 5 days including the weekend from HK, with excellent tracking all the way (BACS £926 Total)...No extras to pay on arrival + with their own 3 year Panamoz Warranty, I would be happy enough to use them again also. Congrats on your new camera (enjoy), I look forward to hearing your assessment...Cheers Barry
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    Hi Lou
    First impressions are that its great, But I was planning to use at bit longer before saying much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I'm not seeing a pile of used A7 cameras in the "Gear For Sale" section... yet.

    NB: its hard to say A7 plural, is it A7s ?, then plural A7s is A7ss or A7ses?
    In my case it's the E-M1 that is going by the wayside as I already have the A7R.
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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Lou
    First impressions are that its great, But I was planning to use at bit longer before saying much.
    It's hard to say it's not. Been playing for a hour and I'm thrilled with the improvements but more important it fits like a glove now
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    Hi there, new user on this forum just to post in this thread, as I got my A7II yesterday (1490€ in France, pretty good price I think for a European version).

    I'm trying to find an L plate compatible with the A7II and can't find anything but the Really Right Stuff which is amazingly expensive. Has any of you managed to find something on eBay? All I see is for the first three A7/A7S/A7R models.

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    Welcome to the forum!!!

    I have yet to see any L brackets yet myself. I probably won't buy one either as this model will be mostly my PR cam since I have the A7r as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Welcome to the forum!!!

    I have yet to see any L brackets yet myself. I probably won't buy one either as this model will be mostly my PR cam since I have the A7r as well.
    My feelings also as the 7R gets the tripod & wide use.......
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    I ordered the plate from RRS when I got my A7II a month ago. Still waiting for it.

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Does anyone else think that the Dust Shaker's sole purpose is to amuse the dust? "That was fun! Do it again!" I certainly don't find the sensor much cleaner after running it.

    OTOH, the sensor is so close to the lens mount that it's easy to get a blower in there.

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    Interesting review by Ming Thein on the A7II:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/mingthein/16291023171

    Enjoy,
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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Interesting review by Ming Thein on the A7II:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/mingthein/16291023171

    Enjoy,
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    This is a link to the samples shots at Flickr. Here is the link to the review on this blog...

    Now on to read it.. Ming Thein is an incredibly talented photographer : he has such a good eye.
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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    This is a link to the samples shots at Flickr. Here is the link to the review on this blog...

    Now on to read it.. Ming Thein is an incredibly talented photographer : he has such a good eye.
    Any idea why he is wasting his talents on gear reviews? Just curious.

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    I don't really want to evaluate Ming Thein's abilities as a photographer. I just found this review of his reasonably insightful and well written.

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    Godfrey - GDGPhoto Flickr Stream
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    This is a link to the samples shots at Flickr. Here is the link to the review on this blog...

    Now on to read it.. Ming Thein is an incredibly talented photographer : he has such a good eye.
    Indeed, sorry—I grabbed the wrong link and didn't even read what I was pasting. Hadn't had my coffee yet... ;-)

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Any idea why he is wasting his talents on gear reviews? Just curious.
    All part of his profile I think - helping to gather people for his workshops. Technically speaking he's certainly a wonderful photographer

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    Re: The Sony A7II

    IIRC, wasn't there a webpage showing a ball bearing supporting the sensor in the A7II as well?
    If my recollection is correct then Ming's statement the sensor is magnetically suspended isn't the whole truth, no?

    Sony took inspiration from anti-seismic Japanese buildings to make the A7II 5 axis system! | sonyalpharumors, quote:



    In detail Sony’s A7II stabilization mechanism uses three coils and magnets points (in red on the image above) and a ball bearing system (in green on the image above) which is directly inspired by anti-seismic protection devices used on many buildings in Japan! There is no image of the ball bearing system so here is one of those used by the buildings:

    Last edited by k-hawinkler; 19th January 2015 at 12:55.
    With best regards, K-H.

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