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    Is there an underwater housing for the Leica M?
    Not as far as I know Vivek - but it's fine to take it out and shoot it in the rain - I know this, because 1. they say it is and 2. I've done it.

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    Curious for all you A7ii owners… How many stops are recoverable if you underexpose?

    I'm still trying to suss this out on my A7s -- which is definitely less than the RX1, a surprise to me… I didn't know if the A7ii sensor was closer to the RX1 (excuse my ignorance but they're both 24MP) than the A7s in this regard?

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    Jono, if you believe in the saying, "what you don't know does not hurt you" then yes, Leica Ms are weather sealed. The BG filter/cover glass deteriorates with moisture.

    Like Monza correctly pointed out this weather sealing has its limits and i try to play within those limits.

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    Re: New A7II Users Reports

    Question for David (or anyone that it applies to):

    How does CV12/5.6 behave with the A7 II (with the LR profile applied)? TIA.

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    Lol. Or kick the dog in the ***. I have a puppy here that's a perfect candidate too. Little pissing machine here. Lol
    Yup, a lot different than the stationary garden gnome that the tester was focusing on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    Curious for all you A7ii owners… How many stops are recoverable if you underexpose?

    I'm still trying to suss this out on my A7s -- which is definitely less than the RX1, a surprise to me… I didn't know if the A7ii sensor was closer to the RX1 (excuse my ignorance but they're both 24MP) than the A7s in this regard?
    The A7II likely has the same sensor as the A7 and thus the same base ISO dynamic range, which is very close to the RX1. Here is a low and high ISO comparison I did between the A7r, A7, and A7s - look at the ISO 100 -5EV for a comparison of base ISO DR/shadow pushing:

    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/sony/511...a7r-vs-a7.html
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    Follow-up after a couple days behind the shutter.

    This thing is a little beast. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Question for David (or anyone that it applies to):

    How does CV12/5.6 behave with the A7 II (with the LR profile applied)? TIA.
    will try it out though from using it on the A7s I find the profile In lr5 over corrects for vignetting so I have made a preset that compensates for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Jono, if you believe in the saying, "what you don't know does not hurt you" then yes, Leica Ms are weather sealed. The BG filter/cover glass deteriorates with moisture.
    That's a bit of a red herring Vivek:

    The cover glass issue is a real one, but it's happening to everyone (not just those in humid climates) - but whilst Leica have agreed to replace them free of charge without a time limit I'm reasonably happy (both my MM and my M9 are affected, but not so that you can see it in images - I'll replace the sensor when the rush dies down). It'll be a bother, but it does at least mean that I'll get a new main board and sensor in cameras way out of their warranty period - free of charge.

    . . . and anyway, it's the M(240) which is weathersealed, and NOT the M9/MM - and they don't have the same BG filter - so they won't have that particular problem

    I wouldn't trust the M as much as the Olympus, because the lenses aren't sealed, but both of mine have survived heavy showers without issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Like Monza correctly pointed out this weather sealing has its limits and i try to play within those limits.
    No it doesn't - I radically disagree - As far as I can see personally The E-M1 and the Pentax K3/5/7 are unlimited in terms of rain usage . . . at least: - 9 hours in pouring rain is all I can manage, so in those terms the E-M1 has unlimited weather sealing . . . at one point on that particular walk the camera had turned upright against my jacket and there was a small pond in the lens hood - still no condensation / ingress etc. and 10 months later both camera and lens are behaving immaculately (having had several other good soakings since).

    But - as sc_John's link to the press release of the A7ii, and looking at the body itself, it seems to me that perhaps they have done something about it. No doubt I'll find out, the camera seems to be a keeper.

    However - it would be nice to get some more insight into exactly what Sony have done and will support. Knowledge is power, and it would be good to know what they mean by
    The camera is designed to be used by photographers in any number of situations without having to worry about the safety of their cameras
    (from the press release)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam View Post
    Curious for all you A7ii owners… How many stops are recoverable if you underexpose?

    I'm still trying to suss this out on my A7s -- which is definitely less than the RX1, a surprise to me… I didn't know if the A7ii sensor was closer to the RX1 (excuse my ignorance but they're both 24MP) than the A7s in this regard?
    Hi Cam
    I've no idea why, but it seems that less pixels = less dynamic range (born out by the DxO marks) - so it would seem to be true what you're observing.

    I reckon the A7ii has basically the same sensor as the RX1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Question for David (or anyone that it applies to):

    How does CV12/5.6 behave with the A7 II (with the LR profile applied)? TIA.
    12/5.6 version 1 at 5.6 focus 3m, iso 1/100. Raw covered with Adobe DNG convertor into Lr5, Voigtlander profile with vignetting set to 44. tone curve medium, custom sharpening preset and tone curve to medium

    profile performs well for corner shading. I find less smearing with the A7s

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    profile performs well for corner shading. I find less smearing with the A7s
    hi David
    thank you! that's what I would have expected. I didn't expect the A7ii to play differently with M lenses. I'm still getting smeary corners with the 35FLE and the 35 'cron (although that might be the fault of my Metabones adapter). I'll be interested to test it with the VME adapter when it comes.

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    David, Thank you very much!
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    Hi Jono, I was going to use that very word, "redherring" but wasn't sure of the spelling. We disagree but that is OK.
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    Hi Vivek. Red Herring is a good expression. I was using it to relate to your brining up exfoliating M9 sensors in relation to weathersealing, whereas ther is, of course, no relationship (as the m9 was not weathersealed).

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    I know what that means, Jono. There are quite a few nebulous factors involved and can't castigate one manufacturer over the other for a particular shortcoming. Of course, it is not that difficult to formulate preferences based on facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    hi David
    thank you! that's what I would have expected. I didn't expect the A7ii to play differently with M lenses. I'm still getting smeary corners with the 35FLE and the 35 'cron (although that might be the fault of my Metabones adapter). I'll be interested to test it with the VME adapter when it comes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Hi Jono, I was going to use that very word, "redherring" but wasn't sure of the spelling. We disagree but that is OK.
    I understand you disagree with me. But I don't understand what you disagree with as I'm not aware of having stated an opinion!

    I'm just interested to know whether the A7ii has better weather sealing (as they appear to say) as I'd like to be able to shoot in the rain as I have been able with lots of my previous cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Cam
    I've no idea why, but it seems that less pixels = less dynamic range (born out by the DxO marks) - so it would seem to be true what you're observing.

    I reckon the A7ii has basically the same sensor as the RX1

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    Possible explanation :
    DR in the direction of the shadows depends upon noise and DXO mesures the sensor performance either on screen, or from a print @ a given size and resolution (I think it is an 8MB picture ?). A higher resolution (36mb against 24mb) means more data to sample from and thus less noise in the shadows and thus higher DR.

    I have read that somewhere but I don't remember who explained that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I understand you disagree with me. But I don't understand what you disagree with as I'm not aware of having stated an opinion!

    I'm just interested to know whether the A7ii has better weather sealing (as they appear to say) as I'd like to be able to shoot in the rain as I have been able with lots of my previous cameras.
    That is because you ignored what I said. I said that I have never had any problems with any E mount cameras thusfar in the weather here which is usually, "overcast with rains".

    Whether I can see obvious seals in a Sony (E mount) camera or not they have been weather resistant with no issues to report.
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    Well just put my order in to at least rent the grip at lensrentals for to come late December. I figure if I can't buy it by than due to stock on hand than they might get it before me to at least rent. It's like 84 dollars to rent. I could probably get by without it shooting 4 solid days but just having the extra battery power will be handy.
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    Monday is a big strike day here, but I'll get it out on Tuesday… Inquiring minds want to know!
    Didn't know you got a A7II in addition to the A7s...
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    Didn't know you got a A7II in addition to the A7s...
    I didn't (though my other half may be interested)… I was talking about getting the VME posted to His Highness of Enablers
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    After further use I find that IBIS doesn't really seem to help a lot with stopping the image from jiggling about when in magnified mode to aid with focussing. Had been hoping that with my 135 it would have been more steady

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    Well. I'm getting more and more impressed, the IBIS seems great and the image quality also seems a step up?

    One thing, I've been having some difficulty with near infinity AF Where it confirms focus, but actually isn't in focus at all. Here is an example:


    The battery was a bit low, but it happened half a dozen times (all on single shot AF)

    The 24-70 f4 seems much better than I remember it. I had a lot of fun with it in a dimly lit pub.

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    Sure, a Submarine. Every Leica user should own one!
    Or at least rent one ...


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    Sure, a Submarine. Every Leica user should own one!
    I'd assume far more Leica owners had glass bottomed yachts...
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    On a related note, I think Glass Bottomed Yachts is playing the Coachella festival next year.

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    Most do, but they are now terrified of cleaning the glass bottoms for fear of corrosion.

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    I'd assume far more Leica owners had glass bottomed yachts...

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    Most do, but they are now terrified of cleaning the glass bottoms for fear of corrosion.
    De-Laminating BG filters indeed

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    Monday is a big strike day here, but I'll get it out on Tuesday… Inquiring minds want to know!
    Thank You (quite an enabler yourself!). The Ricoh goes tomorrow.

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    Most do, but they are now terrified of cleaning the glass bottoms for fear of corrosion.
    Oh very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viramati View Post
    After further use I find that IBIS doesn't really seem to help a lot with stopping the image from jiggling about when in magnified mode to aid with focussing. Had been hoping that with my 135 it would have been more steady
    That is counter to my own experiences. Using a Nikon 105mm Macro, having IBIS on/off makes a huge difference at all levels of focus assist magnification.

    I liken it like this:
    IBIS off - it's like riding on a bumpy road in a truck with bad suspension.
    IBIS on - it's like riding on a bumpy road in a Lexus. The inside of the truck still jiggles, but the jiggles are far less pronounced.

    No image stabilization will cure larger movements, but the IBIS makes it much easier to manually focus with long FL's and/or focus magnification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrewk View Post
    That is counter to my own experiences. Using a Nikon 105mm Macro, having IBIS on/off makes a huge difference at all levels of focus assist magnification.

    I liken it like this:
    IBIS off - it's like riding on a bumpy road in a truck with bad suspension.
    IBIS on - it's like riding on a bumpy road in a Lexus. The inside of the truck still jiggles, but the jiggles are far less pronounced.

    No image stabilization will cure larger movements, but the IBIS makes it much easier to manually focus with long FL's and/or focus magnification.
    Maybe. will have to get used to it

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    One thing I didn't see mentioned and encountered on the A7 (and assume will be the same in the A7II since it's not a new part) is the jittery view in the viewfinder in lower light. After about 5 minutes of using the camera, I got a headache. The refresh rate is really bad. Did anybody else noticed this or am I too sensitive?

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    Personally i have never experienced this problem with either the A7 or A7s and haven't seen anything like it as yet with the A7II. I have always had the EVF set to the higher resolution setting so I don't know if this makes a difference.

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    So my local store is having a"no tax" sale and they've got the a6000 cheap so I figure worth the experiment top use my FE glass and see if it will beat the GH3 for some tasks. I mention to my sales guy that I'm pondering going from A7 to mom and he says, "oh I've got two bodies available." I ask if they can do no tax on that as well. He goes too ask and comes back and says, "yup."

    This place is bad for me. Grip feels good. Will test the ibis shortly. If I'm in the ballpark of my old K20 and EM5, I'll be a happy camper. Just need a longish macro and I'll be set.
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    Re: New A7II Users Reports

    Hi Valentin. Like David, I have my EVF set to higher resolution, and it isn't jittery even in the lowest light

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    So my local store is having a"no tax" sale and they've got the a6000 cheap so I figure worth the experiment top use my FE glass and see if it will beat the GH3 for some tasks. I mention to my sales guy that I'm pondering going from A7 to mom and he says, "oh I've got two bodies available." I ask if they can do no tax on that as well. He goes too ask and comes back and says, "yup."

    This place is bad for me. Grip feels good. Will test the ibis shortly. If I'm in the ballpark of my old K20 and EM5, I'll be a happy camper. Just need a longish macro and I'll be set.
    There's the 90 Macro in March and the Sigma 180/2.8 Macro in A mount if you want REALLY long. That Sigma is stupid sharp as well.
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    Warning - non-scientific quick and dirty test. FE 35/2.8, 1/10 s shutter, without SS, then with. Shot jpg so straight from the camera into LR with no tweaks.







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    And with the 55 (center of the frame crops)











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    1/10s is pushing it but I used to shoot that with the EM5 and K20 way back when. I'd get some usable shots. Not sure that this IBIS is quite up to their implementation but it is a much bigger sensor and a lot more MP to show any blurring. The sheet music example certainly shows a difference.

    My wife prefers the ergonomics of the old body. I need to mess around a bit between the two. I remember retraining my hand when I got the A7 so there is some muscle memory involved.
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    I conducted an AF test on the A7M2 that I frequently try on new cameras to see how well they AF. It is a simple test and surprisingly many cameras show themselves to be slow doing the test. Until today I hadn't thought of a way to do the same test for low light performance.

    The test:

    1. I run the electronic stop watch

    2. Every 5 seconds I fully depress the shutter which forces a full focus action (no 1/2 presses)

    3. I do this until 50 seconds have elapsed (10 shots)

    4. Look at each image, it should be in focus and add the times and divide by 10 to obtain the average.

    With a bright screen display (my iMac screen brightness set to mid way), the 28-70mm FE kit lens set to 50mm and f4.5, I obtained the following averages:

    A7M2 = 227ms

    A6000 = 264ms (This was a surprise to me, I expected the A6000 to beat the A72)

    Both cameras are set to DMF and flexible spot AF (m)

    To simulate a low light situation it occurred to me that I could dim the display to the point I was shooting at ISO 4000 with the same lens at 50mm and f5.6

    Here are the results:

    A7M2 = 371.3ms

    A6000 = 426.3ms

    Pretty impressive times and response under both conditions. I have seen the A7M2 quickly obtain focus in light levels that the auto ISO selected 12,500 at 50mm f4.5. The A7 would have been hunting all over the place.

    Any thoughts on the test methodology and how does this compare to what others are finding?


    Also ran another test with the 10-18mm lens:

    Ran the test with bright screen and A6000 using e 10-18mm at 18mm f4, ISO 200 light level and the results were: 229.4ms

    Same setup on the A7M2 and the results were 202.4ms

    This camera's AF is deceptively fast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Cam
    I've no idea why, but it seems that less pixels = less dynamic range (born out by the DxO marks)
    I discussed why this is the case in a post here
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    So wrt ergonomics, the m2 feels more like a dSLR in the way that lenses balance on it and the edge sits in your palm (shooting one handed). The original A7 is more like a large point and shoot. I'm comparing RX100ii, a6000, A7, and A7m2 back to back and it provides kind of a weird Goldilocks in cameraland thing.

    I feel like a Sony commercial. Now I just need to get hacked...
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    I would say the grip is definitely more ergonomic though not as aesthetically pleasing.
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    Well, not being one to dawdle, I put my A7 in the classifieds here. If it doesn't go quick I'll send it to eBay.

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    Re: New A7II Users Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Valentin. Like David, I have my EVF set to higher resolution, and it isn't jittery even in the lowest light
    Which parameter is this?
    I have the A7R.
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